MS Is Killing Off Mail & Calendar - It's Redesigned Outlook Or Nothing

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To say it's been several months since OP and as year draws to a close it's clear MS will soon either force persons onto new Outlook or tell them "bye-bye".

Lately each time start up MS Mail that dreaded conversion to new Outlook begins. If stopped in time can shut that down, attempting to open Mail again has same result. This dance goes on a few times before am able to open Mail on it's own. One gets tired of that so just leave Mail open until am done for day.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2458803/the-new-outlook-from-microsoft-what-you-need-to-know.html

https://www.howtogeek.com/new-outlook-for-windows-isnt-worth-using-improvements-it-needs/

There are changes afoot for those who use third party apps to access MS Outlook.

Basically unless such third party apps use higher level of security for authentication they won't be allowed access to MS Outlook.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/11/...ook-security-changes-secure-future-initiative
 
After the initial shock, MS Outlook is OK.
The Calendar has taken time to tweak to my liking. And I still hate that I cannot scroll from month to month.
I can still transport calendar information from phone to PC, which is a plus. My second complaint was the color palette.
I can see that this area was improved.
The area that controls spam mail is much better when setting rules with keywords to send junk right into the delete folder.
It takes time to get used to the new player on the block when the old system is easy and flawless.
 
I find that if I delete Outlook from my computer I can still use Calendar. However, it keeps downloading to my computer every day, so I have to delete it every day. I'm using Windows 10. Does anyone know of a fix for blocking Outlook from downloading to Windows 10?
 
If you have an office 365 subscription, just install the full outlook client. It’s much better than the free version that they’re trying to push and works more like a traditional windows app. It may be overkill for some, but it’s a lot nicer than the free version that they’re pushing.
 
To each is own...

There's nothing in Office 365 one wants or needs worth paying nearly $70 per year that don't already have for free.

Versions of Excel, Word, PowerPoint and for moment, Mail work fine for our needs and came free with Windows 10.

Knowing MS as one does it is likely sooner or later will be forced to "upgrade" to Windows 11 or whatever OS MS is flogging at the time. Then if things continue on current path even more MS apps will be up on a cloud and require subscriptions.

How much money does Bill Gates require?

For past decade or so MS is moving to making one pay for everything that once was free and it's all up on a cloud.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveyw...ice-365-email-hacker-made-millions-heres-how/
 
How much money does Bill Gates require?

He doesn't run the company anymore, hasn't for years. As far as money, Windows 10 was free, Windows 11 is free, etc. If the OS is free, they have to make money somewhere.

My only gripe is my Office 2019 version of Outlook (supported until sept. '25 - NOT free) no longer works with Outlook email address's. You would think it would get an update to support the new security requirements.
 
That's That!

Made mistake yesterday of logging out of Mail. For several weeks now anytime one tried to start up Mail the dreaded automatic conversion to "new" Outlook would begin. After stopping that nonsense a few times Mail would finally open. From then on just opened Mail when logging in for day and left it on until shut down computer.

Any-who went out yesterday evening and logged out of Mail. Upon returning later that night and attempting to log onto Mail was greeted with message Mail and Calendar are no longer supported by MS and can no longer send/receive email nor do anything else.

Files and other bits can be exported to new Outlook or elsewhere, but that's otherwise all she wrote.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/03/windows_mail_calendar_support/

For now am using plain ole Outlook. It's over kill for what one needs from an email program, but don't have time to mess about testing new options atm.
 
At work on my Windows XP company machine, I'm still using Outlook Express 6. It's still working -- for now.  
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