rolls_rapide
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"As far as I see, all recalled Hotpoint machines were true Hotpoint designs."
Hardly. That was the era of Indesit. Nuff said.
Hardly. That was the era of Indesit. Nuff said.
My UK (please note locals) Hotpoint Washer/Dryer is on the fritz…
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You are correct, though they primarily stood up as Hotpoint.
Indesit was technically the parent company, but Hotpoint became the main brand.
Either way current machines are redesigned under Whirlpool supervision.
Parts are shared from the old lineup, but a lot of things were updated to Whirlpool standards/components.
Especially on dryers are basically Whirlpool machines with the updated controls.
Dishwashers are straight up completely Whirlpool.
And I think the gas stove thing was a supplier issue as Bosch had the same recall.
Indesit was technically the parent company, but Hotpoint became the main brand.
Either way current machines are redesigned under Whirlpool supervision.
Parts are shared from the old lineup, but a lot of things were updated to Whirlpool standards/components.
Especially on dryers are basically Whirlpool machines with the updated controls.
Dishwashers are straight up completely Whirlpool.
And I think the gas stove thing was a supplier issue as Bosch had the same recall.
AEG
That seemed like a good deal, I hope you get a lot of use out of it
I am guessing you will be looking for a dryer now as well - although you will probably need to go vintage vented to get something like the speeds you are accustomed to although the capacity maybe more limited. Heat pumps are great and will give you are great deal more flexibility in positioning but they are slow although the 1400 spin speed on the washer will help compensate.
That seemed like a good deal, I hope you get a lot of use out of it
I am guessing you will be looking for a dryer now as well - although you will probably need to go vintage vented to get something like the speeds you are accustomed to although the capacity maybe more limited. Heat pumps are great and will give you are great deal more flexibility in positioning but they are slow although the 1400 spin speed on the washer will help compensate.Haven’t really found a Miele heat pump particularly slow tbh and is is genuinely extremely gentle compared to other techniques as the clothes aren’t exposed to high temperatures.
You can get Speed queen gas dryers here though if you’re particularly inclined, but I think they may be LPG only. In rural areas here in Ireland bulk LPG tanks are fairly common.
They also sell a model with a more electronic touch button control panel.
You can get Speed queen gas dryers here though if you’re particularly inclined, but I think they may be LPG only. In rural areas here in Ireland bulk LPG tanks are fairly common.
They also sell a model with a more electronic touch button control panel.
washerguy02
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strictlybojack
If I were you I would get a similar priced Bosch machine instead of AEG. AEG are not good at all for the money they cost. The bearings tend to go prematurely like in a short space of time. Someone I know who had the AEG 8000 his machine smoked like mad when at full 1600rpm. They are absolutely fussy and sensitive that they cancel interim spins after 2/3 attempts. You should avoid AEG at all costs. You will be happier with a Bosch machine. Buy a Bosch serie 4 they are the best machines available on the market today.
Janak
https://ao.com/product/wan28281gb-bosch-serie-4-washing-machine-white-76805-1.aspx
If I were you I would get a similar priced Bosch machine instead of AEG. AEG are not good at all for the money they cost. The bearings tend to go prematurely like in a short space of time. Someone I know who had the AEG 8000 his machine smoked like mad when at full 1600rpm. They are absolutely fussy and sensitive that they cancel interim spins after 2/3 attempts. You should avoid AEG at all costs. You will be happier with a Bosch machine. Buy a Bosch serie 4 they are the best machines available on the market today.
Janak
https://ao.com/product/wan28281gb-bosch-serie-4-washing-machine-white-76805-1.aspx
washerguy02
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Or this Beko
Beko are not bad machines for what they are, they are certainly better than any Indesit/Hotpoint and Hoover/Candy machine.
https://ao.com/product/wey106052w-beko-washing-machine-white-85020-1.aspx
Beko are not bad machines for what they are, they are certainly better than any Indesit/Hotpoint and Hoover/Candy machine.
https://ao.com/product/wey106052w-beko-washing-machine-white-85020-1.aspx
Hi, I have the Gorenje washer (similar to the Hisense on the picture) for more than 3 years now and I am really very happy with it.
I love the high water usage, I love the allergy cycle and the stain expert options.
There are a lot of programs and they are much shorter than in other brands,the programs can also be shortened with the "timecare" option.
Just my comment about that model
I love the high water usage, I love the allergy cycle and the stain expert options.
There are a lot of programs and they are much shorter than in other brands,the programs can also be shortened with the "timecare" option.
Just my comment about that model
That specific Hisense branded machine is 54l.
It has the same depth as the Gorenje 8kg version that has the 54l drum.
The 64l drum machines are deeper.
It has the same depth as the Gorenje 8kg version that has the 54l drum.
The 64l drum machines are deeper.
stricklybojack
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Running first load…wow it barely uses any water, so far… a bit sorry to see that.
So quiet though. We could use a larger drum but hopefully it therefore won’t be as finicky to go into spin as our SQ was on occasion.
Now rinse…much much more water…yay![this post was last edited: 9/23/2021-06:03]
Running first load…wow it barely uses any water, so far… a bit sorry to see that.
So quiet though. We could use a larger drum but hopefully it therefore won’t be as finicky to go into spin as our SQ was on occasion.
Now rinse…much much more water…yay![this post was last edited: 9/23/2021-06:03]
launderess
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When first got my AEG Lavamat thought same thing for cottons/linens; that there wasn't enough water. After slight learning curve can say yes, these washers use proper amount of water for washing.
If you hit "pause" after several minutes and let tub sit, gradually all water in laundry will pool down to bottom of tub. Thus you can see yes, there is enough water to get the job done.
Plus these washers normally have recirculation jets that will activate during portion of wash cycle. This further enhances cleaning with low water amounts.
If you hit "pause" after several minutes and let tub sit, gradually all water in laundry will pool down to bottom of tub. Thus you can see yes, there is enough water to get the job done.
Plus these washers normally have recirculation jets that will activate during portion of wash cycle. This further enhances cleaning with low water amounts.
stricklybojack
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Laundress I think I agree w/ you on the wash water now.
The real 1400 rpm spin is da bomb!…btw
Our SQ rarely went to top spin speed, almost always puttering around about half of this Lavamat.
That helps mightily toward the lack of large American style vented dryers round here. Should have shipped one, there was room.
Oh funny story our 20ft shipping container arrived on the same day the washer was delivered! The damn thing took 3 months to get here but then shows up on the same day as the washer…ffs.
The movers finished just moments before the washer delivery “to curb only” guy showed.
I had busted my ass helping the movers when in fact I didn’t have to. But I felt guilty as my motorcycle caused a huge problem to unload and the movers with help from the lorry driver concocted a scheme to lower from the approx 5ft deck height 20ft container (no lift like the San Diego guys had) down and into the much lower moving van, then using now freed up pallets as crib work, from the moving van down to street level. I should have taken a movie but I was needed in the container to help push the bike up onto the teeter totter gizmo that was rigged up…hard to explain. In the pick you see the bike still in the container on a pallet that couldn’t be turned or even moved at all…many headaches when the guy who packed it up assumed everyone carries a fork lift in their back pocket. A ton of stuff had to be passed over the bike to free up space behind it to work with.
Bumped the temp up to 50 C / 122 F on this load…no hot water inlet on these btw.
And about the inlet. I was sure a plastic plug had been neglected to be trimmed off and was therefore sealing up the inlet. Almost reached for a screw driver to pry it out! Close inspection revealed tiny holes in the surface of what I thought was a plug. In San Diego the extremely hard water that had scaled up our water heater would have clogged this machine awfully quickly with those tiny holes across the inlet. No worries (or fewer) here…the boiler is on demand and the water is much softer.
Having an onboard water heater and temp and more than 3(!) temp settings works well to get the temp you are aiming at. And we have solar panels so the added electric costs are not really a concern.
Also, I do not see any scratches or dents…’cept some black grease/rubber marks around what I assume is where one of the shipping stabilisers goes…seems too nice of condition to have been a floor model.
It takes almost 3x as long to do a regular load vs the SQ FL machine I am used to. “Eco” is even longer!
Not a big problem, but gonna have to plan accordingly when bedding is needing to be done.
Anyhow back to delivery day…as the washer delivery guy sped off I said to the two movers, “buy ya a pint if you get this in the kitchen”…big smiles, and it was done. I gave them each £10 and off they went back home to Cornwall, via a favourite pub no doubt, because lugging my book collection up our steep stairs to was c r a z y tiring. Each of those boxes weighs on average as much as two good sized car batteries. Oh and the record collection not shown…blimey!
I took an Epsom salt bath to aid my recovery.
[this post was last edited: 9/24/2021-05:03]
Laundress I think I agree w/ you on the wash water now.
The real 1400 rpm spin is da bomb!…btw
Our SQ rarely went to top spin speed, almost always puttering around about half of this Lavamat.
That helps mightily toward the lack of large American style vented dryers round here. Should have shipped one, there was room.
Oh funny story our 20ft shipping container arrived on the same day the washer was delivered! The damn thing took 3 months to get here but then shows up on the same day as the washer…ffs.
The movers finished just moments before the washer delivery “to curb only” guy showed.
I had busted my ass helping the movers when in fact I didn’t have to. But I felt guilty as my motorcycle caused a huge problem to unload and the movers with help from the lorry driver concocted a scheme to lower from the approx 5ft deck height 20ft container (no lift like the San Diego guys had) down and into the much lower moving van, then using now freed up pallets as crib work, from the moving van down to street level. I should have taken a movie but I was needed in the container to help push the bike up onto the teeter totter gizmo that was rigged up…hard to explain. In the pick you see the bike still in the container on a pallet that couldn’t be turned or even moved at all…many headaches when the guy who packed it up assumed everyone carries a fork lift in their back pocket. A ton of stuff had to be passed over the bike to free up space behind it to work with.
Bumped the temp up to 50 C / 122 F on this load…no hot water inlet on these btw.
And about the inlet. I was sure a plastic plug had been neglected to be trimmed off and was therefore sealing up the inlet. Almost reached for a screw driver to pry it out! Close inspection revealed tiny holes in the surface of what I thought was a plug. In San Diego the extremely hard water that had scaled up our water heater would have clogged this machine awfully quickly with those tiny holes across the inlet. No worries (or fewer) here…the boiler is on demand and the water is much softer.
Having an onboard water heater and temp and more than 3(!) temp settings works well to get the temp you are aiming at. And we have solar panels so the added electric costs are not really a concern.
Also, I do not see any scratches or dents…’cept some black grease/rubber marks around what I assume is where one of the shipping stabilisers goes…seems too nice of condition to have been a floor model.
It takes almost 3x as long to do a regular load vs the SQ FL machine I am used to. “Eco” is even longer!
Not a big problem, but gonna have to plan accordingly when bedding is needing to be done.
Anyhow back to delivery day…as the washer delivery guy sped off I said to the two movers, “buy ya a pint if you get this in the kitchen”…big smiles, and it was done. I gave them each £10 and off they went back home to Cornwall, via a favourite pub no doubt, because lugging my book collection up our steep stairs to was c r a z y tiring. Each of those boxes weighs on average as much as two good sized car batteries. Oh and the record collection not shown…blimey!
I took an Epsom salt bath to aid my recovery.
[this post was last edited: 9/24/2021-05:03]
"Should have shipped one, there was room."
Congratulations on the new AEG!
If you ship a dryer from the US, don't these come with electronics that run on 120V? It could be a challenge to connect these to the mains in the UK.
Congratulations on the new AEG!
If you ship a dryer from the US, don't these come with electronics that run on 120V? It could be a challenge to connect these to the mains in the UK.
I don’t know about the U.K., but you can buy Speed Queen gas dryers here in Ireland in both LPG and natural gas varieties.
They’ve been around for years and are very popular in some more rural areas where bulk LPG is common and houses are pretty spacious.
They’re the 230V model to EU electrical specs.
Gas networks aren’t necessarily the same though around Europe.
https://www.enniselectrical.ie/calor-speed-queen-gas-tumble-dryer/
Pricy tho €1399
They’ve been around for years and are very popular in some more rural areas where bulk LPG is common and houses are pretty spacious.
They’re the 230V model to EU electrical specs.
Gas networks aren’t necessarily the same though around Europe.
https://www.enniselectrical.ie/calor-speed-queen-gas-tumble-dryer/
Pricy tho €1399
stricklybojack
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Electric dryers run on 240v in America, although they use a differ plug.
Pics are the older 3 prong version, there is also now a four prong that is used, see last pic.
Electric dryers run on 240v in America, although they use a differ plug.
Pics are the older 3 prong version, there is also now a four prong that is used, see last pic.
Some American dryers use 240V for the elements and 120V for the motor and controls. They won’t necessarily run on a U.K. 230V connection which is 230V Hot to 0V neutral. There is no source of 120V.
Also they’re uneconomic to run at U.K. energy costs.
They draw up to 5.6kW vs a European heat pump dryer will draw around 700 - 900Watts or even less sometimes.
The average cost of electricity in the U.K. is 17.2p / 23.52 US cents (now obviously you can get discounts)
Average costs in the USA is 10.42 cent
In Ireland it’s 26.16 Euro cents = 30.6 US cents
Germany is about 30.1 Euro cents = 35.21 US cents
There’s a big variation in energy costs across Europe, but in a lot of countries the price per kWh is a lot higher than the USA and in some places, including here in Ireland, carbon tax per kg of carbon produced is levied too.
So if I pick a green energy supplier, no carbon tax.
You could be looking at 3X the energy costs. That’s why very high spin speeds, heat pumps and line drying are far more common.
The trend also isn’t downwards, quite the opposite. You’re going to be heavily incentivised to cut energy use. In the EU or the UK [this post was last edited: 9/24/2021-07:12]
Also they’re uneconomic to run at U.K. energy costs.
They draw up to 5.6kW vs a European heat pump dryer will draw around 700 - 900Watts or even less sometimes.
The average cost of electricity in the U.K. is 17.2p / 23.52 US cents (now obviously you can get discounts)
Average costs in the USA is 10.42 cent
In Ireland it’s 26.16 Euro cents = 30.6 US cents
Germany is about 30.1 Euro cents = 35.21 US cents
There’s a big variation in energy costs across Europe, but in a lot of countries the price per kWh is a lot higher than the USA and in some places, including here in Ireland, carbon tax per kg of carbon produced is levied too.
So if I pick a green energy supplier, no carbon tax.
You could be looking at 3X the energy costs. That’s why very high spin speeds, heat pumps and line drying are far more common.
The trend also isn’t downwards, quite the opposite. You’re going to be heavily incentivised to cut energy use. In the EU or the UK [this post was last edited: 9/24/2021-07:12]
