Need sump guard for W Laundromat

[moparwash]

Well I found out what all the scraping was during the spin cycle...the sump guard metal seems to be warping and the screws from the paddles are scraping it...and actually chewed through a piece of it...in consulting the service manual, there is an additional piece of metal missing that looks like it would hold the piece down that is being scraped by the paddles...and to fix it the tub has to come out...(not a fun process according to the service manual)

 

[tomturbomatic]

There is a kit that repairs this. Finding one will be difficult. It is a bracket that requires drilling new holes in the sump. The part number you wish to look for is #5300088824 and, most recently under the Electrolux name, is labeled "Bracket." In 2005, when I bought mine, it was $23.69 dealer cost. Your baffle is not warping, it is pulling loose from its mounting position because the screws that hold it to the outer tub are coming loose due to rusting of the steel around the holes.

 

The sump guard is the metal leaf that is coming loose. I believe it is stainless steel. You will have to flatten it back into shape. Mine let go just as it started into spin and I stopped it immediately to prevent further damage.  It is an ingenious bit of engineering in that it channels water into the sump when the tub goes into spin instead of letting it run around between the inner and outer tubs.

 

[brucelucenta]

You must get some really nice rust spots on your clothes by using it.

 

[moparwash]

That is only discoloration of the tub, no rust stains get on clothes...anyway I found a store online that might have one left in stock...Turbomatic...what is the installation process like for the bracket?

 

[tomturbomatic]

The little plastic bag has all of the parts and printed installation instructions.

 

[moparwash]

thanks...hope I don't have to take the tub out

 

[brucelucenta]

Seems like the last one I remember was made out of plastic and not metal, but that's been a while.

 

[tomturbomatic]

No, you operate through the opening behind one of the vanes that you remove to access the outer tub.

It is a shame, though, that these types of failures were emblematic of the cheap scale of construction of the machines.

 

[moparwash]

Just found out the place I ordered it from does not have it after all...Ill keep lookng!

 

[tomturbomatic]

I'm sorry.

 

[tomturbomatic]

I think old WH part numbers had a Q in front of the number with no space. Maybe you could try searching that way.

 

[brucelucenta]

Why couldn't you just make one out of plastic? That was what the last ones I saw were made of.

 

[tomturbomatic]

If you would read reply #1 closely, you will see why he needs the bracket kit. He does not need the baffle as much as he needs the bracket that replaces the one that has pulled loose and allowed the baffle to move out of position and get caught between the tubs. If you have ever done this repair, you will know what I am talking about.

 

[moparwash]

I am wondering if the baffle will still work with the pieces chewed out

 

[tomturbomatic]

I'd like to correct a mistake I made

The bracket to which the sump baffle is attached was not originally mounted to the sump portion of the tub with screws. It was welded to the steel outer tub before the assembly was porcelainized. Sitting in water, as it was in the sump, eventually caused rusting and then failure of the bracket, which was a thin piece of steel. It is only the new bracket that is mounted with screws, not the original one. I'm sorry for posting the wrong information.

 

[brucelucenta]

Personally, I can't imagine wanting to even keep or use it myself. But all that aside I don't see why you couldn't use it without the baffle at all. I have done that before until I got something better. Just have to be careful about checking pockets of clothing before washing them.

 

[yogitunes]

in the theory of physics, it seems like it would work without that baffle or coin guard in place.....not true....

they each have a purpose you can't go without.....the baffle alone forces the water while spinning into the sump area, without it, it will just pass right over top of it, never to be drained....

and of course the screen guard protects the pump from coins and foreign matter....without the baffle, it wont stay in place, as in Jerry's case, it floated up and made contact with the inner drum.....

I had this with a tall tumbler once, I used an "L" bracket, drilled holes, and used that to create a new baffle and hold down for the guard....some silicone kept everything drip and rust free...

sometimes you have to improvise.....

 

[moparwash]

The question I have is the black baffle on the left in the pic is missing from my machine...that looks like it is welded to the outer tub and is the piece the bracket would fix...mabye on mine when it broke they just took it out, leaving the baffle on the right that screws into the sump..

 

[jeff_adelphi]

Bracket kit,

The bracket kit is to repair the bracket that is under the large baffle plate, not the part welded to the tub that holds down the left side of the baffle plate. I have never run into a problem with that part on the left side of the baffle. If that part has been removed, you should be able to see where it was welded to the tub.