Need your help with mice again

[launderess]

@stan You Know I love You More Than My Luggage

Not the LV stuff of course, but more the older American Tourister. *LOL*

Was not being "picky" nor condescending, towards you nor anyone else; just simply pointing out a few well known facts.

Many more read this board than actually are members and or post and should this thread pop up when a "Google" search is done for how to rid a place of mice,wanted it to be on record that a cat does not always solve that problem.

Living here in NYC mice problems are constant, from high to low housing; it's just the nature of multi-dwelling buildings especially when many are >60 years old. Critters get in and never truly leave. It takes a dedicated extermination program for not only the effected unit or units but the entire building from top to bottom. Otherwise the varmints simply move about from one place to another in search of easier digs. Indeed our extermination man tolds us few if any NYC apartment buildings are mice free. They may only be confined to the cellars or in the walls, but they are there.

Being as all this may the remedy at once if for many to run to the nearest shelter and or otherwise get themselves a cat to deal with the "problem". When the cat fails to do what it was "supposed" to, again it usually does not bode well for the animal.

 

[stan]

Dear

I never suggested a shelter, nor the use of poison. Neither of these are common sense options in my mind. And would not think that they would be in anyone else's.
Can't imagine someone discarding a cat just because he or she didn't preform.

You've already pointed out the important and obvious solutions, a good cleaning (removing their beds) and removing any food supply the little darlings are after. Also blocking the entrance.

The cat is simply a deterrent, and a natural predator to them, they wont like a cat being around, and fortunately the mice don't know if the cat is a good mouser or not. They just know they' "may" have a huge problem maintaining there lifestyle LOL

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Excuse me Stan I have to communicate here as I respònded to an email you sent time ago,  but never got any response, did you received it? Hopefully I didn't say anything that hurts you. If so I aplogize.....

I would be glad to hear more about that matter.

Thanks

 

 

 

 

[stan]

Hi Freddy

No I did not get it?
I'll try and email you so you can hit 'respond' or try re sending what ever you sent before.

 

[launderess]

Stan

Sadly it happens all the time here in NYC, which is one of the reasons one stated that the better pet shelters and or pet adoption shelters where won't even consider you if the words "mouse" or "rodent" are mentioned during the process. Indeed the days of merely walking into some places and walking out with a dog or cat, puppy or kitten is nearly over. It takes a long application process before anything happens. This makes sense as many of animals came into the system because of abuse, neglect or being unwanted and it's better to weed out potential repeats of that up front.

On a similar note many breeders of Bull terriers won't sell to persons in NYC especially parts of Manhattan, the Bronx or Brooklyn. They fear the dogs will be used for fighting purposes.

Several years back we looked into getting a Bullie, but breeders from the South to Midwest to Westcoast turned us down once they heard our address. A local pet store did get a few in but they came from Eastern Europe and one likes to know and if possible see the parents of a puppy.

 

[stan]

Laundress

had no idea it was that bad, I've never bought a pet before, mine have always found me LOL

I'm sorry, guess its my small town mentality, but I just cant get my mind around the idea that someone would "buy" an animal to get rid of a mouse, and then discard the pet after the mouse is gone, or reward the animal with abuse! What's wrong with people!

 

[launderess]

Apparently some places do same day adoptions, but you've got have all your ducks in a row.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/bideawee-new-york

 

[tolivac]

Remember cats are not mouse disposal machines-the cat only catches mice as food-and only if the Momma cat taught the kitten to do it.a snake may make a more sure mouser than the cat-but snakes eat less frequently than cats-so you are left with traps,poisons,and exterminators.Guess I will have to dust off and bait my traps--saw mouse "evidence" the other day.One of the guys at work -his wife called him at the site and said a black snake was outside the door of their house-he said-just let the black snake in(black racer-common here)She did and the black snake promptly found and caught,killed a baby water moccasim-(toxic snake!)After the black snake was done-she let him out!Black racers feed on other snakes and poisonous ones!The Black racer itself is not poisonous-they are long,and fast-they will bite you but their bite isn't poisonous.they can be more than 6 Ft long.See them out here at work-outside of course.sometimes snakes and snapping turtles get into our building-they like the pump and blower room for some of our transmitters-its warm and moist there.And yes--like all other transmitter sites---lots of mice!!That would be another thing the snakes want.

 

[stan]

Did I miss

something?

who said cats were "moose disposal machines" ??

 

[tolivac]

I didn't say cats were Moose Disposal machines-other folks mentioned on this thread about cats catching mice.You will need something bigger than a cat to dispose of Moose.

 

[stan]

Bruce

are you there?

How are you doing with your little problem?

 

[supersurgilator]

Well I went out there 2 days after placing the poison baits. One of those containers got moved, but I didn't see anything else. I went back out there today and searched around with the door open, didn't see or hear anything, and there weren't any dead mice around. I saw a few droppings in the corners but nothing exceptional.
On a side note, my mom keeps in contact with the people that live behind my grandparents in the house cadycorner, and they reported that they had a mouse in their garage the other day. I figured it was one that I had chanced out of their garage a couple days prior. There was some road construction and sewers being done a block down the road, so I wonder if they stirred up some. We have lived in this neighborhood for years and never had a problem like this before

 

[launderess]

Unless You're Using Very Quick Kill Bait

Chances are the things will die somewhere else than right where you can see them. OTHO if you have decent sized infestation and or the odd ones were dying on their way to or back from a meal, then you'll see one or more.

That is the reason most exterminators, at least in NYC do not recommend using poison indoors unless it's totally necessary. More often than not rodents die in the walls, under floor boards, behind sinks and or large appliances (if not in them), and the resulting stink from decay can be horrible. One or two small mice might only create enough smell for a week or so, but if there are more or it's a rat (or god forbid several), the stench is just beyond words. Professional exterminators even have access to various chemicals that can be put inside walls to help deal with that problem.

The other thing which often happens is one starts seeing flies, even in dead winter. They are breeding/feeding on the decaying rodent's bodies and again it is horrible. Friends of ours had a bad mouse problem in their apartment building that resulted in finally the exterminator using an aggressive program of traps and poison baits. In the end the mouse problem was solved but every apartment and the common areas (halls, rubbish rooms, etc) were ful of flies. This was in December through the rest of the winter. No one could put two and two together until one of the other teanants who had lived through a similar situation before connected the dots. All that was left to do was hang lots of fly paper and wait for the plauge to end.

@supersurgilator,

Unless you've tagged, named or can postitively ID the mouse you chased out of your grandparent's garage, it probably is *NOT* the same one that is in your neighbors. While there may be the one odd mouse inside a home odds are there are usually more. In a given area, again it is rare there is just one mouse shifting house each time it's found out by various owners. It seems pretty likely the area is having a rodent problem and you'd be wise to contact local government and or ask around to see if anyone has reported similar experiences.

Most rodents by nature are burrowing animals, so anything that disturbs their underground homes tends to send them out into the open. Sewers, gas lines and other construction can turn what people thought was a rodent free area into something out of the plauge years.

Here in NYC certain types of construction that distrub earth must have the area baited before and during the project. Residents around the Second Avenue Subway line in Manhattan have reported an increase in both rats and mice since that project began.

It might be more proactive to set outdoor traps *around* your garage and see if that turns up anything. If you start cathing mice that way at least you know what you're dealing with.

 

[tolivac]

Out my way the mice live in farm feilds-esp near the houses-when the farmer harvests the crop,or bush hogs the cover crop-the mice are driven into the homes.Got the traps ready whenever I spotted the harvester or bush hog.Yes,some of the mice get chopped up in those--but the escapees get inot the homes.