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kevin313

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I must be out of my mind, but I dragged home a 1952 (I'm pretty sure) Westinghouse Commodore stove yesterday. Double ovens and a deep well, I just couldn't resist. Of the many stoves I've schlepped around, this is by far one of the heaviest. I got my workout moving it!

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This stove is just like what my grandmother (mothers mother) had and she had most of her household things as Westinghouse. She had this stove that she bought the same time as she did her slant front washer. I know she had the coffee pot and a waffle maker. She also had a couple of the Westinghouse fans. She did have an old Sunbeam mixer and her vacuum was a canister Bee Vac that looked like a rocket.
 
Ahhh, Kevin, Westinghouse at it's finest. The model you have is a Commander, I think, I'll have to look to be sure. I have nearly the same range, they could be sisters! You will LOVE the way those ovens bake, I've never had a better, more even-baking oven.

I grew up with the model you have, with the single oven and warming drawer. Should you ever decide to part with that beauty, please keep me in mind. But I rather suspect you'll fall in love.

All you need now is the matching roaster, for those large things that just won't fit in your oven! Enjoy!

Keith
 
I'd estimate the steel gauge in those old Westys heavier than what's used in car bodies today. I'd also estimate it's a shade earlier than 1952. Lucy's was 1951 and more angular/less rounded. We had one just like it. Somehow mom turned the well burner on empty and melted the pan. Sounds more like something I'd do, but at that age I couldn't reach the knobs.
 
How Many in the Stable

Kevin, how many ranges do you have and which among them are your favorites for cooking?
 
Pat Coffey : THANK YOU for the scan of the Westinghouse product book!

The oven manual that was with the stove had a 1952 copyright on it - so I kind of figured that for the year of manufacture.

Kelly -
Here are the stoves I have (that I can recall):
1952 Norge
1952 Westinghouse
1952 Hotpoint Automatic
1953 Frigidaire Imperial
1954 Frigidaire Imperial 70
1955 Kelvinator
1956 Frigidaire (30" w/French doors)
1958 GE
1961 Westinghouse
1972 Crown
2000 Frigidaire

Some of them have never been used, as I don't have a way to hook them all up. I'm going to start a rotation where I switch them out every six months or so.
 
Range Buffet

Many of the older ranges were designed for heavier oven use with baking and roasting and did a really fine job.  I am a solid Frigidaire fan but don't like controls on the front of the range.  I also felt Hotpoint and GE of the same era had some advantages in speed and evenness of oven browning.  I have never used a Norge or early Westinghouse but I truly feel the Westinghouse appliances of the 60's and 70's were excellent and reliable.  I have used some 50's Kelvinator and Leonard ranges and I'll pass on those.  Do you have space for a 40 inch range in the kitchen in Detroit and what are using now?  Since you have a GE and Hotpoint range at the Lake does that indicate you prefer them?  I love to talk appliance porn and details so feed me up with your thoughts.
 
The GE and Hotpoint at the cottage are there by circumstance. When the compulsion came over me to start rescuing all these old stoves, those were the first two that I came across. One was $10 at a yard sale and the other was given to me. I actually built my kitchen shed at the cottage as a place to put and use the old Hotpoint (an idea I wish I had long before - it sure is nice on the hot summer days to have the stove outside the house!). They both do a very good job. All the burners work properly and the GE has one speed Calrod burner (right front) that heats water almost instantly - it really works great.

I grew up with electric stoves and learned how to cook on them. I can do fine with a gas range, but it always takes some getting used to. I do a lot of cooking for an old Polish church in Detroit and cook on a big SouthBend 8-burner, double oven with a griddle range. It is gas, of course, and I can cook on it without any trouble. That said, I take a real comfort in an electric range - I guess it's just what I'm used to. It's a bummer when the power goes out, however!!

My mom and grandmother both had Frigidaire ranges (although my mom's first stove was a '55 Norge). My daily driver at home is a Frigidaire glass-top (purchased new in 2000) and it has never let me down. It bakes fairly evenly and maintains tempurature beautifully. I'm still not sure how I feel about the glass top, but it is easy to clean and serves as extra counter space when I'm not using it.

So, do you prefer your controls on the back dash rather than in front? Interesting. I never thought much about it, but I always thought they moved the controls so kids wouldn't set the house on fire. I always thought that gas stoves would be better to have the knobs on the front, so when you turned a burner on you wouldn't burn your arm or set your shirt a blazin'....that polyester can go up like a matchstick ;-)

The thing I like about the older Frigidaires is the wide radiantube elements. I think they provide more surface-to-surface contact and so maybe they would transfer the heat better and be more efficient. This Westinghouse I picked up over the weekend also has wider coils - not as wide as the Frigidaire, but wider than GE. They are Corax units.

My Detroit kitchen doesn't have room for a 40, only a 30. One of these stoves is a 38 (that may be the Norge). For this reason, I tried to limit myself to only picking up 30's, but alas, I'm a sucker for a pretty face.
 
The oven manual that was with the stove had a 1952 copyright

Well  Kevin if that is what the manual copyright said then you were right....oh and did you notice the 1951 version of your stove only had one oven.........I am glad you liked the rest of the manual I could not resist sharing it with you so you could see what you would need to have a complete Lucy Ricardo Westinghouse Ktichen..... PAT COFFEY
 
Wide One

I too like the wide and even heat of the Frigidaire burner.  It can blast away for hours with large kettles, pressure canner or simmer the most delicate sauce and never warp, burn through or even scorch the porcelain.  I like GE burners until they introduced infinite heat and after a few years they seems to be all or none while the fixed heat burners were always reliably the same.  I would rather not cook than use gas and like the convenience of the heat value always being the same at each setting on an electric.  I'm not so into playing twister bending over to watch the flame, get it adjusted just right and then have a draft knock it out.  Moreover gas is much slower and if turned too high ruins the handles and exterior of the pans to say nothing of my hands when I pick up a pot.  Even though I am cooking vintage I have never met a smooth top I didn't like.  They are a breeze to keep clean and provide steady and even heat.  Much of what I do is baking so the oven is the single most important factor in any range and it must have mixed heat from above and below while baking.  Any range that says preheat on the selctor dial is going to bake from the bottom only after switched to bake.  Ge bakes like a dream but borwns more than Frigidaire.  My experience has been that Frigidaire outweighs GE and has more insulation thus cycling less often producing evenly baked foods that are not over browned.  For baking cakes nothing in the world is better than a vintage Frigidaire.  No excess brown to trim before decorating for wedding cakes.

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