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COVID hobbies?

Unusual hobbies can emerge during times of crisis such as our current pandemic lockdown. I previously never bothered with laundry unless I needed something cleaned right then, and repairs were bottom of the priority list. Forget about cleaning and preventive maintenance.

After two months of working from home and my other pursuits shut down, I was bored out of my skull. Then my old faithful Maytag washer puked it’s transmission and there were no good new ones available to buy. Found the high torque trans and seal kit locally, bought a used spanner, watched YouTube videos, and started a new hobby. Since then I’ve rehabbed another Maytag and a Speed Queen. Big fun and never would have gotten my interest if not for COVID.

So maybe there is a similar pattern with mom’s new dishwasher, in the absence of other interests?
 
Bosch/BSH has taken this approach to cords in Europe for a good few years at this stage. I assume the logic is they can produce machines for 230V 50Hz markets, without having to do runs with different plugs, but having a snap-in cable connection. The appliances are identical and voltage and frequency is identical, but the plugs in countries like for example, the U.K. & Ireland and say Switzerland are different to the usual CEE 7 (colloquially known as Schuko) systems used across most of continental Europe. Then if you go beyond Europe, a large majority of the world uses 230V 50Hz (220-240V) so that brings in even more plug/socket types.

Seems they have just extended their snap in system to the USA and Canada to allow for safer and easier installation using your hardwired approach or a plug/socket.

It looks a lot easier to connect than having to work with terminals in hard to reach locations on an appliance.

It always struck me that Bosch’s approach makes a whole lot of sense both for the manufacturer and the end user.

Below are the two most commonly encountered grounded plugs in Europe:

The CEE 7/7 plug that that’s used across most continental Europe (and quite a lot of other places like Korea) It has two pins and ground is connected with two scraping contacts at the top and bottom of the plugs (or a pin that connects with the front of the plug in France). They sockets are recessed and shaped like a circle.

The other one with the 3 rectangular pins is BS1363, used in the U.K., Ireland, Cyprus, Malta (and places like Hong Kong, Malaysia, etc)

A few examples below: - the French type sockets sometimes have a circular cover on the recess that pushes back as you insert the plug, this makes them seem flat, but they’re actually recessed.

The reason for the recessed design is to make it impossible to touch the live pins with your fingers. Other plug designs in Europe like BS1363 in the U.K. and Ireland use pins that are partially plastic sheathed. [this post was last edited: 10/2/2020-21:31]

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Here is a website for plugs, sockets and voltages around the world.

https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plug-voltage-by-country/

As for the start of a new thread:

Perhaps it's good to realize that not everyone has abilities and skills to use the internet like others. There are people with limitations and also some people who are blind. It's not to us to judge if posting gets out of hand. If you think something is going on, please report it to the webmaster instead of commenting in the thread. Robert can't keep an eye on everything on this website, so if something serious is going on he is happy to accept your help. For the rest I can only say that patience is still a virtue. Especially in the communication with others on the internet. You don't know who is behind it.

Thanks for listening.

Louis
 
Sarcastic replies don’t really help anyone.

Also it’s a good general etiquette to limit your responses to the post and never make personal jibes at another poster, on this or any forum.

This is a brilliantly geeky and technical forum about washing machines and appliances. If someone wants to ask a question let them ask! It’s what this forum is for. It’s as much an obscure knowledge base as anything else.

That’s why I wanted to give as much info as possible to the OP. Think he deserves a lot more than sarcastic response.

It’s a very reasonable question and there’s a reason and rationale behind Bosch’s approach and one that extends beyond the North American models and market. They’re just adapting their European and global approach to wiring to the he US & Canadian market where you’ve use or hardwired dishwashers.
 
powercord for the dishwasher

this is the powercord for the bosch model she purchuse in the pdf file i have read online its option 2 option 1 is a junctionbox but i think it would be more safe security reason to go with the powercord in the sink cabinet that way if leaving the house the dishwasher can be unplug and replug when back exemple vacation or a family event out of the house

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Salt is involved only if the dishwasher has a built-in water softener, which functions the same as a whole-house water softener machine but on a much smaller size just to treat the water that fills into the dishwasher.

The salt goes into a separate reservoir in the machine.  There's no place to put salt into a dishwasher unless it has a built-in water softener.

The salt is used to create brine (salt water) to refresh the resin bed in the water softener mechanism.  The salt water flushes through the resin bed then goes to the drain.  This process is called regeneration.  It occurs on a specific schedule determined by the dishwasher, not every time the machine runs.

The dishes are never exposed to salty water.  Adding salt to a dishwasher that doesn't have a water softener built-in, by just sprinkling it into the tub or adding it with the detergent will do absolutely nothing useful.
 
Bosch DW Questions

A BI water softener can be nice if you have hard water, it allows you to get great results without buying the more expensive detergents. It really does not matter what kind of salt you use in the softener as long as it is for a water softener.

 

In reality it is better to direct wire a DW, less chance of the outlet under the sink or the connection at the DW overheating and failing or even causing a fire.

 

One ice thing on Bosch DWs is they have an On-Off button on the control panel that cuts off all power when you are not using the DW, you could also cut off the breaker for extended absence.

 

John L.
 
Just connect your dishwasher as per the normal code wherever you are. It's not any safer or more dangerous to use a plug and socket vs hardwiring. 

 

In Europe, because we use 230V rather than 120V, plug & socket connection for machines like dishwashers has always been quite straight forward. A socket outlet can deliver 16amps (or 13 amps in the UK/Ireland) at 230V which is 3680W (2990W in the UK/Ireland). So generally appliances up to 2900W are sold with plugs, sometimes higher and typical dishwashers are maybe 2100-2400W.

 

If you're in a hard water area, using the built-in water softener means the water is softened in the wash and rinse cycles, so you'll always get better results than using a detergent with built in softener, as there won't be any calcium or magnesium deposits from the water to deposit on dishes.

 

If you've soft water, it's generally absolutely fine to just use a dishwasher tablet/detergent with built in water softening. 

 

 
 

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