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hey - just found this website, and am amazed to see that there are other people in this world like me! - i have had tghis bizarre obcession with washing machines ever since i was a little kid, i have no idea why i am just facinated by them, and the way they work!!

so i figured if anyone can help me it would be you guys! When i was a lad - we used to have a Phillips washing machine (back before they merged with whirlpool) for the life of me i cant remember the model number, was wondering if anyone could help me? The main thing i remember about it was on its final spin, as it was draining the water it would spin with the water still in the drum - it made a fantastic pattern on the glass door!

any pix, info or even a video - would be amazing -
cheers guys :o)

ps - if anyone wants pix or vids of my machines running lemme know and i'll sort it out

Bran
 
Welcome Bran! Another member of the UK contingent - we're growing all the time!

If I remember rightly, weren't they the Series 90 washing machines? Never seen one in action though, but have seen quite a few over the years. Can't help with any exact model numbers though I'm afraid :-(.

Pictures would be good - I'm always interested in other people's collections!

Feel free to drop an email, most of us UK lads are on MSN and chat to one and other most evenings.

All the best,

Jon
 
Philips AWB082

Hi Bran

Welcome to the club, there will be no sleep for you tonight as you will probably be looking at all the pics n vids n mails etc...LOL

The Philips machine was the 082/098 series, used permanent magnet motors and where one of the first with a polycarbonate drum, all with a 10yr guarantee, probably one of their finest ranges...

Does it look like this?? Heres a link to some of my stuff!!

Enjoy, Mike


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WOW - thats pretty much it!!! the one i had was a bit of a later model, the dials were on the other side - it weas defo one of the series 90 machines!

nice set of pix you've got there Mike - especially some of the dysons - its my ambition to own one of them - cep to herd that make some pretty far out noises! hehe

i swear i have spent hours and hours online looking for images online of the series 90! it like it never existed! i saw one on ebay once - but i have no-where to put it!!! cheers for that pic though - brings back some nice memories :o)
 
Welcome Bran

What a NEAT pix love that machine .. Welcome to the group i am some what of a newbe too.. I too loved the old washers and when we would go visiting I would go check out the laudry room first.. I have been called sick, weirdo and many other things I can't mention here. Whats wrong with love for the older machines.. They had class and style and made the neatest noises .. Sure miss the old days Sudsman.
 
Hello Bran

Welcome to the club mate. I used to love those machines too. The best bit was that the tub was really full of water on that final rinse when it started to fast distribute, superb! Loved the Slimstar Top Loader from the 70s with the blue dial inserts. That had an induction motor but still did the dramatic thing from tumble to spin. Nice to meet you and most importantly remember you're not a freak, it's the rest of the world not us ;-)

Nick
 
Welcome, Brandon! Be sure to check out all the old TV commercials, etc. They are quite entertaining. And no, you're certainly not the only one who is fascinated by washers.

Any pictures or videos of your machines would be great!
 
Welcome Brandon! While I have not seen a machine such as you describe, I have seen large (30 lb.) Milnor commercial washers in coin laundries that did a water distribution before every spin. The speed was increased from tumble to the slightly faster distribute speed before the drain valve opened. Not only was it fun to see a big load go from tumbling in the water to slapped against the drum in just a few splashy seconds, it also gave some pretty good drama with water pouring down the glass in the door. After the washer was drained, the speed shifted higher into the spin. One of the things that made for a good show in this washer was that the door closed against the drum edge, like in the Bendix washers with no suspension system requiring a flexible boot between the drum and cabinet assembly. This put the glass in the door right in the path of the water that was streaming down to the sump. Did the machine you had go into high speed spin with the water in it or did it increase the speed after the drain? I think water distribution is a fairly efficient way to achieve a pretty well balanced load for spinning. It sure beats some of the time-wasting back and forth tumbling that some of the new generation large drum front loaders do to distribute loads for spinning.
 
it went into a slow speed spin straight away if i remember rightly - and as it got to speed the water began to drain away, once the water was gone the machine would increase speed, and gradually increased to it's total rpm :o)

must see if i can hunt down the washers you mentioned! hehe
 
I had a Philips TL that does the same thing - it spins from full. The reason for the slow wind up to full speed as water level drops is how the PM motor is connected - the motor is connected in series with the heater element.
On 240 volt supply, during wash the motor "sees" about 20 to 24 volts,the rest of the voltage is dissipated in the heating element. The electronics have a feedback circuit that monitors rpm by measuring voltage fluctuations in the wires to the motor - no separate tacho. During wash the motor speed is kept low to enable a tumble action. During pumping out the speed is not controlled, the full 240 volts is sent to the combined heater/motor circuit. The more load is on the motor, the slower it turns and the more power is dissipated in the heater element. As the water level drops, the motor speeds up and less voltage is wasted in the heater element. A crude and inefficient system but it works. The spin speed controller is infinitely variable and at faster speeds it adds pulses from a secondary resistor in parallel with the heater element. Later versions like my current Philips TL do a neutral drain first, still use the heater element to give a slower wind up to spin speed, and for final spin do a short extra burst of 200 volts to the motor (not through the heater element) to give a fast final spin. (1000 rpm from memory)

The system is quite elegant in how it works but wastes a lot of power, so I no longer use it. In future I'd like to design a more efficient controller which uses a power supply to provide 20 volts for wash, 24 volts for distribute and 150 to 200 volts for spin. This will cut wash power consumption from 900 watts to under 100 watts. One day...

Chris.
 
Gizmo

IIRC, all induction machines badged as 400 rpm actually span at 375, to to the way those motors on cheap units only had certain speeds they could run at, this was the speed I believe. A true anorak fact!

`I HAD a Philips TL'. Boo. What I wouldn't give for a vintage Philips TL.

Nick UK
 
arrrrrghhh!!! Brandon! i had one of those aswell

Mine was a philips Auto Elite Series 90

It had a temperature dial with Max, 80 - 30, and Min

Then it had a spin speed dial numbered 10 - 1 and had a tub symbol _/ for rinse hold, after the 1

It had a half load button and and short wash button

and a program dial with A - F on

Is urs the same?

i'll try and scan a photo ive got...
 
ahhhhhhhh no way!!

thats it!!! there it is! thats my old washer *sigh* i so want it back!! hehe - cept mine had slightly larger door, and the handle had an orange spot on it for some reason!

hehe we used to use program C :o)

i notice you used past tense and said you 'had' one of these :o( we shoudl team up and try and hunt one down!! hehe

cheers for the pic though - made me smile :oD
 

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