New BravosXL Videos

[murando531]

Started just using my phone to record the videos, rather than the GoPro, because the phone doesn't distort the view with that weird fisheye look the way the GoPro does even with distortion correction turned on (which is why in some of the previous videos, it looks like there's a 1-mile gap between the tub and cabinet, when there isn't, and also made the bottom of the tub look more narrow than the top).

Anyhow, here's a fully loaded Normal cycle of darks, but without the extended pretreat phase like the last video, taking the time down from 1:30 to :58 minutes. I tried to angle the camera a bit better so that movement and rollover were more visible. Enjoy.

 

[murando531]

Also, here's a video of a much smaller load, though what would have amounted to a medium-large load in the 3.4 cu.ft tub of the Whirlpool agitator machine. This is using the Colors/Towels cycle, which I don't use often because the pretreat and wash portions are much shorter, but the machine is much more liberal with water use on wash/rinse than the Normal cycle, while still maintaining HE water usage and bloom rollover.

It's actually really cool (and less time consuming) to watch the videos on 2x speed, and you can also see quite well the amount of movement and rollover on the loads in both videos. Just hit the little gear icon at the bottom of the video screen and you'll see the speed option, unless you're on a mobile device. For some reason that feature hasn't made it to the "app" version of YouTube.

I've gotten requests in some of the comments and messages for different cycle/load types, including the Clean Washer cycle, so I may be working on that next, since there don't seem to be good videos of the Oasis machines' self-clean cycles available anywhere.

 

[thomasortega]

Is there any possible way to run a cycle with a deep fill in this washer?

 

[ea56]

Thomas, the Bulky cycle fills right to the top on both the wash and rinse portions of the cycle.
Eddie

 

[thomasortega]

Hummmm, that's good!

 

[vacerator]

Correct,

and "hand wash" fills the tub a third to almost half full.
Not sure which I prefer, this, or the new one with the dual action agitator with the cork screw action if I were considering another top loader.

 

[brucelucenta]

After watching this video, I am amazed. I find it incredible that manufacturers would make something so complicated and that take so long to do a job with the same amount of water a front load machines uses. Top load machines were simply not made to do that and will NEVER do as good a job at it. In addition, they are MUCH harder on the clothing and create a LOT of linting and wear and do a very poor job of rinsing with no water. I watched as it spent the first 20 minutes attempting to get all the clothes wet with sudsy water and then wash them with just enough water to barely cover the impeller in the bottom. Say what you will about it, but the proof is right there to look at and see with your own eyes. Say it again, top load washing machines are NOT designed to wash clothes with small amounts of water. Front load machines are, do it well without any linting or wear to clothing and rinse well also.

 

[henene4]

The proof is right there

Exactly. He uses this machine for more then a year as a daily driver, and testaments that it really works, with not to much wear and perfect results.

You know the Whirlpool Catalyst design? Got it right there.
Rinsing is literally the same as in a LG TurboWash: Spray rinse, deep rinse.
Taking longer: Possibly, yeah.

 

[twintubdexter]

My age is really showing...

What in the world is that thing doing? Filling, spinning, filling, spinning a dozen times and then washing (I guess) in a cup or two of water...all the while making noises that sound like it's not having a good day. Old people like me remember when washers filled, washed, spun water out, then filled, rinsed, did a final spin and shut off. Occasionally there was an option for a second rinse. Watching that first video makes me realize that the world and most of it's high-technology has passed me by. I did like the videos.

 

I wonder what will happen if I ever have to replace my current Maytag?...purchased new 16 1/2 years ago with one self-repair, a new pump from Amazon, $12.95. 

 

[henene4]

Filling, spinnin, filling etc.

Basicly, preatreating. Imagine taking all your detergent, dissolving it in some water, and the spreading it over all the items, wringing them out, spreading the detergent again, over and over.

Basicly, a high concentration soak. Like the Catalyst, just with less watter and way longer.

 

[combo52]

Great Videos

These machines are not complicated machines, they are far less compared than your Samsung washer Bruce and probably more durable and easier to repair in the long run.

 

[yogitunes]

I see were going to beat this like a dead horse......

but the bottom line is, this is the future, and it ain't going to change....get used to it....if anything, you may see even less water....we are never going to go back to the way things were.....

these machines work as intended, and like it or not, once you get past the mental part, do a great job at cleaning your clothes, and rinsing them clear and clean.....

this concept is like mentioned, Catalyst, like washing your hands, a little bit of water, and a high concentration of detergent, a soak even, which is more than effective of removing stains.......and a saturated rinse or two, and a high speed spin.....

speaking of saturated rinses.....if you were to rinse out your cleaning cloth, do you fill the sink full of water, and swish it around?.......or do you run it under the faucet, squish it a few times, and then one final squeeze?....same concept!

the cycle that is being used in this video is 'Normal', which for the most part, is most economical for resources......most likely I would have selected Colors, or Sheets, which would have processed the load with more water....

I have an older version, there is not any excess wear and tear to be seen....that's just a bunch of bull.....

I have demonstrated this machine during every event I ever had....and have blown every negative thought out the window....

 

[ea56]

Martin, thanks for your rational perspective on these machines. And your analogy about rinsing a cleaning cloth was right on. I've been using my Maytag MWVC415EW now for 2 mo. and have washed every kind of load imaginable with excellent results. My machine does offer a 2nd rinse option, but I have never found this to be necessary. The amount of water used, while way less than a traditional TL is way more than the new generation on FL's. And the water that is used is more than adequete to wash and rinse thoroughly. To me it seems about the same amount of water that my 1987 Westinghouse FL used. I haven't regretted this purchase at all. And for those people that do want a full fill the Bulky cycle fills that need. And the hot water temp. doesn't seem to be dumbed down unreasonably. I think that Maytag got this one right.
Eddie

 

[murando531]

It's funny; this mention that the machine "doesn't clean, doesn't rinse, is hard on clothes, uses a cup of water". Apparently I missed the memo somewhere. In two years owning and using a HE top loader, I've not had a hair of damage done to any clothing. There are towels I own that came from my childhood that are washed regularly and haven't lost a string. Not once have I had a tear, or hole, or thread pulled loose on a single garment of clothing owned in this house. And after going back to using the Atlantis and the WTW4800 agitator washers I have for a couple of weeks, in addition to using family machines that are standard conventional washers, I will *never* go back to using a full fill agitator washer as a daily machine ever again. Yes, the Atlantis was a Cadillac in its time, and the 4800 is a fantastic washer, but once you've had a taste of what it's like to never need to presoak or pretreat clothes, to wash easily twice what your previous washers could, and to dry said double-sized load in half the time because the HE machine spins them to barely damp, going back to a conventional machine is like going back to sweeping carpet and beating rugs instead of using a vacuum cleaner.

And the notion that "it doesn't rinse"? It seems that if the machine weren't properly rinsing the clothes, I should have cloudy sudsy water whenever using a wash cloth in the shower or a dish cloth in the sink before adding dish soap, but somehow the water is always clear. Darn. Guess I missed that memo too, lol.

It also seems that the very people who endlessly bash and dismiss the machines are also the ones who have never bothered to try using one. But what can you do.

 

[murando531]

I also just grabbed about a minute of the load of towels washing at the moment, to try out the upload function on the iOS YouTube app. Here you'll see that pesky thimbleful of water that is somehow up 3/4 of the tub, and there is *absolutely* no rollover. The items you see blooming and rolling evenly and fluidly to the outside and back again? Just a myth. An optical illusion. That steam on the window? Also a Whirlpool illusion. The water reads at 112F and our water heater set to 130, but trust me, that water is ice cold. People who don't own the machine and have never used one told me so, so it must be true.

Anyhow, I'm going to try getting some pretty good videos in the future now that I can just use my phone, so enjoy this preview in the meantime.

 

[ea56]

My experience with my Maytag HE TL is just as Andrew's. I agree that you really need to use one of these machines to fully appreciate and understand how well they work. Andrew's last video is just how my machine washes, except mine has the agipeller instead of the impeller like his, but the wash action is the same. I think the concentrated detergent combined with the blooming wash action does a great job of removing stains, while still being gentle. I've also experienced no damage to any clothing, no linting at all and no tangling. I really don't know where some of these ideas about these machines come from.
Eddie

 

[twintubdexter]

Yogitunes...

I'm sure you are 100% correct. I honestly never thought I'd morph into one of those oldsters that poke fun at "them new-fangeled contraptions" but apparently that's what's happened. Those Bravos machines sure look very high-tech and I'm certain they do a great job of cleaning clothes. People probably felt the same way about automatics when they first hit the scene compared to their trusty old wringers.

 

[thomasortega]

Very interesting comments...

Some months ago, i laughed at the WonderWash. Come on... a jar with a hand crank? Ridículous!

Corey (my boss) forced me to try one... I was sure it was going to be a disaster. I did it with rolling eyes and only to make sure i was right, i did the official standarized test in the lab. I was sure the stain stripes would come out the same way they enter the jar.

When i opened the lid, I was shocked. The test load was impressively clean! I didn't even bother to use the spectrometer, the white was visibly white.

Now I think i'm making the same mistake. I'll have to try one. I always liked the Maytag XXL, that huge washer i always see at sears outlet or home depot. Now you convinced me to try that monster.

Filing an internal request to the big boss right now.

 

[thomasortega]

How can somebody be so stupid?

OMG! The rings on the bottom and top of the drum are full of water! Terrible engineering... how is the washer ballance the load with all that water in those rings? Why would Maytag dare to put a ring full of water in a machine? didn't they notice that during the engineering? ROFL