New dishwasher Maytag or Miele?

[volsboy1]

Since my Stimulus checks are coming in , I am going to buy me my dishwasher.
I have been saving for a Miele dishwasher for a long time but something always breaks and I hate charging anything so I would use my dishwasher money.

The Miele dishwasher there entry level, I like the retro/simplistic design.
Its also the cheapest one they have but still its 1100 bucks.
I have been so determined to get me a Miele, I didn't pay much attention to the others much at all.
The new Maytag dishwasher looks great and I am impressed about the wash system.
Will this new wash system be on Whirlpool? I know Kitchen aid has that new wash system.
I was wondering who has one of these new Maytag/Kitchenaid dishwashers and what do you think about it?

Miele dishwashers my Aunt has works wonderful .
If you had to chose between the two which one? Miele or Maytag ?
I have owned Maytags but, I have never owned a Miele ,well dishwasher that is.
Mom had a Miele washer that was unstoppable.
I don't want to spend more than 1200 bucks .

Is Whirlpool going to change all of there machines to this new type.
That's a huge selling point a self cleaning filter , I am sure the hard food disposer is a metal blade that does really nothing but is there so they can advertise it.

 

[appnut]

Wes, Wihrlpool has begun transitioning updated models to the new wash system, but they still have a filter requiring cleaning. I've noticed in reviews of the Maytag people have experienced failure after a couple of months--it's the chopper that quits working. Lorraine Furniture (Eugene) got a KitchenAid KDTM804K a few months back and was impressed. For all dishwasher models that have the new platform design, there is a letter K after the model number rather than an S or and H.

 

[petek]

I would go with the Miele any day over a Whirlpool made Maytag or Whirlpool made anything.
Back in the 1990's when we bought our new house replete with a builders grade GE I had my heart set on getting a Miele dishwasher eventually but they were cost prohibitive, making bimonthly mortgage payments etc saw to that. Anyways, a year or so down the road we went to a big home show and Miele was offerning their entry level machine but with bonus added turbothermic drying for quite a few hundred off.. Even so it was a $1000 plus machine. I guess I whined and pleaded enough that I got the other half to cave LOL.
It was so nice and silent compared to US made machines at that time. Unless you put your ear to the door you couldn't tell there was anything going on inside. And it cleaned really well. THen of course we sold the house and moved and it went with the house. In the new house we went thru two crap Kitchenaids. Now have the Bosch Ascenta which is a great machine and I'm happy .

You have an itch for a Miele and it's not going to go away purchasing a Maytag is it? . So I say,, if you can manage to pony up for a Miele, scratch that itch and get one.

 

[jerrod_six]

It looks like the Miele has the short option, so I would go for that. It can cut the cycle time by 30 to 50 percent. I have a Miele with the short option and it does come in handy. The wash system on the Miele works. Everything I've put in mine comes out clean, even baked-on crusty macaroni and cheese. You've always wanted one, so get it.

 

[sudsmaster]

Well, I've never had a Maytag or a Miele dishwasher. So far I have had a Frigidaire dishwasher (junk!), and then got a Bosch. SHU-43CU model. It has been generally good. Although I had to replace the recirculation pump at one point. Easy enough to do.

I would imagine the Miele would be as good if not better than a Bosch.

There is no comparison with the Frigidaire. The Bosch (and I assume Miele) has an all stainless interior. This was a big weakness of the Frigidaire. Not so much the chamber walls, but the big 12" diameter filter screen on the bottom was also plastic, and over time it would warp and lift and let food debris into the recirculation system, which would clog the holes in the spray arms. I was glad when the Frigidaire finally croaked and the Bosch was a huge improvement.

 

[washmeup]

Miele

Go with Miele hands down. Mine is going on 19 years without a single issue and still looks brand new inside. Everything comes out clean and I only scrape the dishes prior to loading. Cheers

 

[combo52]

Maytag or Miele Dishwasher ?

Both are very good, I would check out the size and design of the racks carefully to see which you like better.

 

To me [ I put dishes in very dirty ] I would never want another DW with a filter that will need cleaning. 

 

Also if you like your dishes really hot and dry having a heater element to dry the dishes is a plus.

 

Also since cost is an issue check out if there is a good service company for each brand in your area and ask about typical repair costs, service call rates etc.

 

Note : Maytag did have an issue with the chopper blade failing on these new models, the problem has been solved by a beefed up design.

 

John L.

 

[maytagbear]

If you have

differently shaped dishes, instead of standard round ones...like Franciscan Starburst or Oasis, take a full (clean place setting with you when you shop in person. My sister's good dishes are hexagons, and she did not take them with her when she shopped for her new European designed machine. She likes the cleaning and quietness, but it took some time to get used to the racking.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

(I would have suggested, had she asked me!)

 

[beehiveboy]

Everyone’s experiences vary of course, but in the uk we’ve not had exposed heating elements or choppers for 30-40 years and I can honestly say I’ve never had any issues. I put utterly filthy dishes into my dishwasher, if there’s some spaghetti or a few peas I don’t worry. I never, ever rinse, just tilt and load. Baked on casseroles never get soaked. On average I’ll clean the filter twice a year, and often find it clear. I think the detergent and water temperature generally take care of soft food waste. And dishes are always dry, excepting thin plastic if the load didn’t comprise of much crockery. Just my experience, and of course it comes down to personal preference above all else.

 

[appnut]

Paul, your description of loading your dishwasher sounds just like Wes' process lol.

 

[beehiveboy]

@appnut it’s always been my philosophy that 1. It’s designed to do the job for me, if I have to do half the work for it there’s little point in it. And 2. I’d rather occasionally clean up a tiny bit of residue from an otherwise clean casserole or baking dish than get my hands dirty trying to guess which bits of the dirty pot need pre-treating on the way in!

 

[murando531]

I'm confused as to how the "chopper" system in the new Maytag's is failing. The "chopper" is just a blade attached to the drain pump impeller. There's nothing else different than the same MicroClean system of the KitchenAid models, they're just adding that in as *marketing* so they can still claim the Maytag has a disposal blade for people who are still insistent on that. Seems like if the "chopper" is failing, that just means the drain pump has stopped working?

 

[henene4]

I have a 7000 series Miele and it is a great machine.

Performance isn't any better than any good DW.
Especially in terms of drying there is better (especially the Bosch Crystal Dry).

But the feel is incomparable.

The door feels weighty, but just closes effortlessly.
The racks are just the smoothest thing. No need for ball bearings.

Just a quality build.

Would I spend 1000€ on it?
No way. I payed half price.
I would have payed 800€ as well.

But not full price.

 

[henene4]

Miele entry level

The entry level semi-integrated is on sale on Miele's website for 999$ currently.

The base G7000 is 1500$, so I wouldn't advice on buying that.
Though that has the newer wash system (has its ups and downs, I learned to like it).

Bosch's front control TOL with Crystal Dry is around your budget.
That would be model SHEM78Z55N.

Had a similar EU machine and drying is beyond everything I ever used.
No excessive heat, yet perfect drying.

Whirlpool already rolled out some of the new models.
The WDTA80SAKZ appears to have the new wash system judging by the wash arms, yet has a filter?
But it is very quiet and the highest end non connected model.

The comparable Maytag machine is actually a little cheaper apparently?
That would be the MDB8959SKZ.

If you want to buy a new DW to treat yourself I'd go with the Miele (or the Bosch I suggested).

But a Whirlpool cooperation product will be the better fiscally responsible choice in the short to mid term.

 

[volsboy1]

Thanks guys but I am not getting anything at all now.
My Radiator busted and I replaced it 10 days ago for 600 bucks from the shop.
Well the other-day I was at a stop light and my TEMP gauge was all they way to the red.I I was in the worst possible 4 lanes of traffic on each way. I turned on the heat full blast and it did nothing. I pulled over after waiting for 9 mins and my car had no water at all.
That new radiator split in half and now my engine in my Crv is blown up.
I just got back from the police station, I was picked up for punching the owner of that car service place for using a Chinese radiator and not helping me pay for his screw up.I have to have the engine replaced it threw a rod .Well he will not like what I am going to do to him and his new business ,I will settle this score.

 

[bradfordwhite]

Someone was just saying about Miele in another thread, unless you have a Miele service center near you, don't get it.

If and when you need service it's expensive.

I would never spend more than $70 for a quality used dishwasher. These days you can find perfectly good dishwashers on craigslist. Sometimes they are free.

I have seen Bosch at Habitat. I would def. consider that because they are so quiet. But the idea of spending more than $300? No way. And it better have a return warranty.

The last dishwasher I got on CL was a free electronic GE that someone got when they bought a house and it had been sitting for 2 years so the motor was stuck. They thought it was junk because all it would do is buzz. They had no idea. lol.

I simply pushed the impeller to free the fan and it started right up. No tools or disassemly required. And the racks were all good and the machine was clean.

Now that's a good deal.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

I have a question.

What is Whirlpool calling their new filtration system?

 

[gelaundry4ever]

I have a question.

What is whirlpool's new wash system?

 

[petek]

Sorry to hear about your predicament with the car.