I chose the Heavy Cycle, with Sani-Temp and Presoak options. Time: 3:27 (Had I added the Power Dry option, it would have been 4:27!) The Heavy cycle is the most aggressive one on the machine.
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Wash Zones allows you to wash only the upper or lower rack if desired. It was an option I used frequently with the LG.[this post was last edited: 12/18/2013-21:10]
Wash Zones allows you to wash only the upper or lower rack if desired. It was an option I used frequently with the LG.[this post was last edited: 12/18/2013-21:10]
Up to 4.5 hours?! Must be quite a cycle! Looking forward to the results and maybe some pictures of the new kitchen.
First impressions:
1) The racks are flimsier and not quite as capacious as those in the LG. The placement and spacing of the tines is better on the GE.
2) The quality of the stainless steel on the front of the machine was higher on the LG, and its door felt more solid/substantial.
3) I definitely miss the upper third rack for flatware and utensils. You'll notice in the photo only one of the little stubby ends of the GE's large silverware basket is being used, making more room for the large items in the lower rack. However, as I become more familiar with the machine and learn to maximize the use of rack space, this will probably become less of an issue.
4) The GE is noticeably quieter than the LG, which was pretty quiet itself. I always try to make sure each succeeding dishwasher is quieter than the one it replaced. Mission accomplished on that front!
5) I know it's silly, but I also miss the LG's interior lighting.
6) The true test will be in the cleaning power. I used Cascade Complete Gel, the same detergent used when testing the LG back in 2008. My work day begins at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow, so I'll probably be in bed by the time the load is finished. Will post photos of results as soon as I can.
Overall: Appears to be a very nice machine, although lacking some of the panache of the LG. Love the nearly silent operation![this post was last edited: 12/18/2013-21:26]
1) The racks are flimsier and not quite as capacious as those in the LG. The placement and spacing of the tines is better on the GE.
2) The quality of the stainless steel on the front of the machine was higher on the LG, and its door felt more solid/substantial.
3) I definitely miss the upper third rack for flatware and utensils. You'll notice in the photo only one of the little stubby ends of the GE's large silverware basket is being used, making more room for the large items in the lower rack. However, as I become more familiar with the machine and learn to maximize the use of rack space, this will probably become less of an issue.
4) The GE is noticeably quieter than the LG, which was pretty quiet itself. I always try to make sure each succeeding dishwasher is quieter than the one it replaced. Mission accomplished on that front!
5) I know it's silly, but I also miss the LG's interior lighting.
6) The true test will be in the cleaning power. I used Cascade Complete Gel, the same detergent used when testing the LG back in 2008. My work day begins at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow, so I'll probably be in bed by the time the load is finished. Will post photos of results as soon as I can.
Overall: Appears to be a very nice machine, although lacking some of the panache of the LG. Love the nearly silent operation![this post was last edited: 12/18/2013-21:26]
Hi, Alexander! Here's a photo of kitchen showing the new floor, which makes the room seem much warmer and cozier than the previous flooring. Next: Two stainless steel exhaust hoods for the ranges.
Thank you! 
I like your kitchen - it's indeed cozy but there's still enough space to move around during those cooking sessions.
I like your kitchen - it's indeed cozy but there's still enough space to move around during those cooking sessions.
I woke up and knew there was no way I'd get back to sleep without seeing the results. It's a keeper, kids! Everything in the load was spotless, including the grungy roasting pan in the top rack. It will be interesting to see how well it cleans pots/pans with a shorter cycle---minus the 30-minute Presoak option, for instance. I'll also run a load of cookware on the Normal cycle to see the difference in performance compared to the Heavy Cycle.
Second load: Top rack-only load of odds/ends. I put the silverware basket in the top rack and chose the Normal cycle with no water heating options. (Temperature options: Normal; Boost Temp; Sanitize Temp) The time: 57 minutes. Using a pac of Cascade Platinum, my daily driver.
Here's a photo of the upper rack from the first load, post-wash:[this post was last edited: 12/19/2013-00:29]
Second load: Top rack-only load of odds/ends. I put the silverware basket in the top rack and chose the Normal cycle with no water heating options. (Temperature options: Normal; Boost Temp; Sanitize Temp) The time: 57 minutes. Using a pac of Cascade Platinum, my daily driver.
Here's a photo of the upper rack from the first load, post-wash:[this post was last edited: 12/19/2013-00:29]
The deep sauté pan:
The roaster from the top rack:
Really nice results (especially since stainless steel can be a b!tch to clean).
Great!
Definitely looks like this machine will earn its keep in your kitchen, Eugene!
I'm especially excited to see what sort of results you could expect on the shorter Normal or un-modified Heavy cycles. Does this machine include a Soil-Sensor to determine washing time, or is this machine a "Play it by sight" type of machine?
The results you got are certainly impressive. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure our DD could accomplish that itself with regular powder detergent, but with my >30% Phosphate "Fairy" tabs - maybe.
Definitely looks like this machine will earn its keep in your kitchen, Eugene!
I'm especially excited to see what sort of results you could expect on the shorter Normal or un-modified Heavy cycles. Does this machine include a Soil-Sensor to determine washing time, or is this machine a "Play it by sight" type of machine?
The results you got are certainly impressive. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure our DD could accomplish that itself with regular powder detergent, but with my >30% Phosphate "Fairy" tabs - maybe.
washer111: The GE has a soil sensor and an AutoSense cycle. I'm not sure if it is employed in other cycles. The sensor was active in every cycle except 'Quick' on the LG, and it often shaved 20-35 minutes from the stated cycle time. Cycle times are almost identical to those on the LG. That machine didn't offer a Power Dry option, and using it on the GE adds about an hour to the total time. The GE has a 30-minute Express Wash cycle I want to try, too.
I also want to try out the Bottle Wash option. I have some tall, narrow glasses (like those pictured at the top of this thread) and a couple of flower vases with very narrow openings for that test. I'll coat them with egg and brownie batter, then let them dry. Consumer Reports said that the feature worked very well, but that bottles placed elsewhere in the top rack were cleaned perfectly in 3 of their 4 test loads. The Bottle Wash sprayers are the visible toward the right side of the upper rack and have blue tips. The manual says using the feature adds up to 23 minutes to the cycle time.
I also want to try out the Bottle Wash option. I have some tall, narrow glasses (like those pictured at the top of this thread) and a couple of flower vases with very narrow openings for that test. I'll coat them with egg and brownie batter, then let them dry. Consumer Reports said that the feature worked very well, but that bottles placed elsewhere in the top rack were cleaned perfectly in 3 of their 4 test loads. The Bottle Wash sprayers are the visible toward the right side of the upper rack and have blue tips. The manual says using the feature adds up to 23 minutes to the cycle time.
Wow, it really cleaned the pots and pans very well! I just checked the dishwasher out on the GE site and watched the videos. Even though it was a 4 way arm, only 2 parts of the arm are used and then when it reverses direction the other 2 parts are used. It doesn't appear to have an arm on the top? Is there a constant rinse?
Gary
Gary
stchuck
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I dont think my Bosch could accomplish this
I think the results are quite impressive and I am really anxious to hear how it does on the shorter cycles. Thanks for the updates.
I think the results are quite impressive and I am really anxious to hear how it does on the shorter cycles. Thanks for the updates.
Gary-- There is an arm at the top of the tub spraying downward providing a constant rinse. I'll try to take some better photos of the interior and post them tonight.
Scott-- I'm impressed with its cleaning ability on the longest cycle. It will be fun to try out all the different cycles for comparison. I was especially impressed that the roasting pan was completely cleaned in the top rack.
Scott-- I'm impressed with its cleaning ability on the longest cycle. It will be fun to try out all the different cycles for comparison. I was especially impressed that the roasting pan was completely cleaned in the top rack.
stchuck
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I agree
I was equally impressed. Longest cycle on the bosch is 2:45 and it never goes that long, last time it cut the cycle by almost an hour and I was once again left with dirty pans and casserole dishes. GRRRR. I still miss my GE GSD2800 and its been 15 years....
I was equally impressed. Longest cycle on the bosch is 2:45 and it never goes that long, last time it cut the cycle by almost an hour and I was once again left with dirty pans and casserole dishes. GRRRR. I still miss my GE GSD2800 and its been 15 years....
stchuck
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on another note
I have been just sitting and waiting for GE to come out with a stellar dishwasher, maybe this is it.... I have also been noticing that their previous wash system that I think is still used in many models is getting good reviews, I think the arms are curved and may be used in their "hybrid" line as they refer to it.
I have been just sitting and waiting for GE to come out with a stellar dishwasher, maybe this is it.... I have also been noticing that their previous wash system that I think is still used in many models is getting good reviews, I think the arms are curved and may be used in their "hybrid" line as they refer to it.
The Heavy cycle on my Bosch takes 2:15, add five minutes each for Bottom Basket Intensive and Sanitize and ten minutes for Extra Dry.
On the one hand, I'm surprised you said the LG felt more sturdy when LG couldn't make a drain hose that wouldn crack - on the other hand, LG seems to focus a lot on what you can see and feel: sturdy racks, heavy doors etc. while skimping on quality where the consumer can't tell (like drain hoses or electronics).
Looking forward to more pictures of the inside and the filter (which was how dirty after that load?).
Video: http://bcove.me/14sywvc4
On the one hand, I'm surprised you said the LG felt more sturdy when LG couldn't make a drain hose that wouldn crack - on the other hand, LG seems to focus a lot on what you can see and feel: sturdy racks, heavy doors etc. while skimping on quality where the consumer can't tell (like drain hoses or electronics).
Looking forward to more pictures of the inside and the filter (which was how dirty after that load?).
Video: http://bcove.me/14sywvc4
Funny you should mention the filters. My main concern with the GE is that I'm going to forget to check them every once in awhile. The screen/filter on the floor of the tub was clean, so I pulled out the ultra-fine filter and it's clean, too.
I'll have to put a reminder on the calendar to check the filters every couple of weeks. This is the first dishwasher I've had with a manual-clean filtering system.
Third load: Used the Normal cycle with Temp Boost (not Sanitize) option. Cycle time: 1:51. The time listed by Consumer Reports is 2:20. They test a machine's normal cycle with Temp Boost and Heated Dry options. I don't use the Power Dry option, so the cycle time is substantially shorter.
Man, this dishwasher is quiet!
On the LG: It really was an excellent dishwasher in so many ways. There was great attention to tactile and visual details, much like Apple products. Example: The GE makes a cheap scraping sound when the top rack is moved in and out. The LG's rack glided in and out so smoothly; almost silently. It felt very sturdy.
I'll have to put a reminder on the calendar to check the filters every couple of weeks. This is the first dishwasher I've had with a manual-clean filtering system.
Third load: Used the Normal cycle with Temp Boost (not Sanitize) option. Cycle time: 1:51. The time listed by Consumer Reports is 2:20. They test a machine's normal cycle with Temp Boost and Heated Dry options. I don't use the Power Dry option, so the cycle time is substantially shorter.
Man, this dishwasher is quiet!
On the LG: It really was an excellent dishwasher in so many ways. There was great attention to tactile and visual details, much like Apple products. Example: The GE makes a cheap scraping sound when the top rack is moved in and out. The LG's rack glided in and out so smoothly; almost silently. It felt very sturdy.
stchuck
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three loads
How were the results?
How were the results?
