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BSH DW are in short supply

Over here, currently, if you can get ahold of any Bosch (or BSH DW in general), you'll be paying basically 1-2 model tiers higher than you get.

Entry line used to retail for below 400€, now retail at what the midrange was before.
Midrange is higher range, higher range retail for TOL money and the TOLs retail for Miele money.
 
videos of these

I'd love to see videos of these new Maytags in action from the inside. It will be interesting to see which of the arms will alternate during a cycle. It looks like Maytag was the last brand to move to alternating wash system.
 
Initial Observations

I have been using the new Maytag for about a month. Here's what I like:

Very good washing using the Auto cycle. The Quick cycle is not as thorough. I do not mind the long cycles. I am rinsing the dishes but not as much as I used to. Two times there was food in the Foreign Object Cup, once a pea and once two pieces of fettuccine. It is not really a filter that needs cleaning, but you have to look at it occasionally. The unit is quiet but not as quiet as I first thought. During the cycle, some portions are noisier than others. Probably the lowest washing level is the noisiest. I am letting the cycle run to the end. I used to open the old dishwasher and let the steam out during the drying cycle. The drying is very good even without a fan. A very small slot lets the steam and air out.

The old dishwasher had a white tub and white silverware basket which made the interior brighter and easier to see. Stainless is very dark and the racks and silverware basket being grey make it harder to see if there is still a spoon in there. I can see why some versions have interior lighting. (Kitchen Aid I think) The old dishwasher was not a tall tub and was a little easier to load on the bottom rack.

The grey interior plastic parts are water spotting. I do not have a water softener, the water is not real hard but it bothers me a little to see the non pristine grey plastic.

All in all I am pleased with this unit.

I received an offer from Maytag for a service plan. I decided to buy 5 years of coverage which starts after the one year original warranty. I finally read the two pages of tightly spaced information and am not sure if the warranty is that good. The plan has the option of a buy out if they do not want to repair. Product age of 1-5 years they give you 75% years 5-10 45%. So when the unit is in the last year of coverage they can just give you 45% of the original purchase price. This information was available before I bought the coverage but I did not read it until today. In California you have 60 days to revoke and get your money back. I will think about it. Has anyone used this type of warranty, think it is worth it?
 
I'm in the market

Hello, longtime subscriber but haven't been on in awhile. I'm looking for something "mid-range" dishwasher somewhere between $700 and $900. I know about the Bosch 300 series, and

Maytag MDB4949SKZ has been on my list for a long time. I like the simple looks of it, price, and have read good things. It also is front rather than top control, which I kind of like.

Lately some GE models have caught my attention. GDF630PSMSS (front control), and GDP630PYRFS (top control). There are numerous variations of the top control model. Of the GE's, I like the 3rd rack, and I'm really attracted to the bottle jets. I can't find any other makers of bottle jets, except maybe a Kitchen Aid?

I haven't found any recent threads about GE. My current machine is Kenmore, maybe 10 years old, came with the house. It's ok, just ready to upgrade. In the past I avoided GE appliances, however the GE gas range in my old house was superb. The Kenmore range I have now (I think it's Whirlpool) is good, but I much prefer GE's F/R/R/F knob placement, than F/R/F/R which I still can't used to.

Are there any other dishwasher with my preferred criteria: $7/900, 1k max, stainless steel front, 3 rack, food disposer. Water jets would be real nice, I'm neutral on plastic vs stainless tub, noise level not important. Prefer a mainstream brand, US production a plus.
 
My little opinion

Keep in mind....while I love appliances and do some research, I don't have nearly the expertise as some on here. But I agree with your choice with the Maytag and I know of a few others who are happy with theirs...But I've also heard LG's are great too..
 
its the same system used in the kitchenaid models. up until this generation, maytag used a wash system that I believe was based upon the point voyager, whirlpools last mainline wash system to not alternate arms. they are the last of the whirlpool built brands to shift to alternating arms.
 
Thanks for the comment. I really do like the GE bottle washers, but there also seems to be an availability problem with GE. Another annoyance is Lowe's has them on sale for a great price, but they're "not in stock", and they won't let you backorder them. The come back in stock after the sale ends (imagine that), shoot back up in price, and go back out of stock again after only a couple days. So now I'm leaning towards the Maytag.
 
Agreed! There aren't many videos of these machines out there. in fact, this is the only one of the inside I've been able to find:
I am hopefully getting one in the next few months and will be sure to take video! depends on how long it takes for our kitchen to get put back together after our old dishwasher leaked all over...
 
Hello all. I wanted to update that I purchased the Maytag MDB8959SKZ 3-rack stainless tub with top controls. Overall it has performed great and I like the loading flexibility. Also, the price I got it for ($599 via Costco) seems exceptional. I think the MSRP is like 999, and I never saw a sale price near that low. I was looking at lower end models that cost more than that! Lowe's doesn't have the direct model equivalent, but they have an "exclusive" model, and the only difference seems to be a metal silverware basket, which seems like a dumb gimmick.

The delivery and installation process all went smoothly, and Costco adds on an extra 1 year of warranty.
 
Yep that is a great price....

I read back through this thread and it leads me to a question if someone sees this... It has to do with selecting the Auto clean cycle...So then when I chose auto clean on mine...I can also select high temp wash and tough scrub...but I wonder, is that even needed with auto clean? I wonder what happens when choosing those two options in addition to auto clean? Perhaps it gives an extra rinse or something? It's kind of confusing because you would think auto clean would choose high temp wash for you... I don't know.
 
I’m not sure how the cycle modifiers work in these exact models but I’m guessing it’s similar to the way it worked on the Point Voyager machines. While it didn’t have an auto cycle, the normal cycle was sensor driven. Based on the number of APF purges tripped in the prewash it would select low or hi soil. Low soil included a purge and a rinse after the main wash, hi soil included two full rinses. The target temp was 120F regardless of soil level. Choosing high temp Wash raised the target temp to 135F and forced it into a high soil selection, regardless of how many APF purges were tripped. The newer units may very well be able to choose extra time, temperate, and rinses based on sensed soil conditions, but there’s no harm in allowing the cycle modifiers to still be active. As a user, it’s nice to be able to tell the dishwasher that those dishes need extra scrubbing or sanitation, and it probably forces a high soil condition.
 
It'll be interesting to see how this wash system handles APF. We have one arriving soon so I'll be sure to investigate. Also looking forward to seeing how it handles baked on foods & egg residue, both things that my point voyager couldn't handle.
 
The new sensor cycles usually combine load size sensing with soil sensing and create much more flexible settings.

Usually the cycle can select number of prewashes, post rinses, time and temp of the main wash aswell as final rinse temp.

Given the options can add anywhere from no water up to several liters, my best guess is that high temp forces a 4 fill cycle while sanitize forces a 5 fill cycle (2 post rinses before final rinse).
But if these are anything like previous machines, the theoretical maximum of fills is 7 I think (3 prewashes, main wash, 2 post to rinses, final rinse) while the minimum is 2 1/2 (main wash, purge, final rinse).
So Auto could still sense that up.

Also, Auto can certainly select a main wash time, so it could potentially run a short but hot wash.
 
Yes, the prior generation was a more refined point voyager based wash system, the thing is already whisper quiet I couldn’t imagine why they would wanna make it alternate arms to make it quieter? Also this was the direct wash generation they used when they stopped making the point voyager Jetclean’s in 2014, so lasted about 6 years you cannot buy them brand new anymore as Maytag has obviously moved onto a new system which they’ve never, ever done with Maytags the only WP brand that has not seen this wash system yet until the year of 2020ish when this came out . I have nothing to say about the new ones I don’t have one, but I can definitely say I’m happy enough with my 2020 model that features the good old wash system, which they called “The Clean Water Wash”according to its manual. I still have my powerclean portable from early 2000, still looks and runs like it’s brand new. Absolutely love both of these very iconic reliable machines and unique in their own ways, old and new. But still share a very important characteristic, they hold enough power and run all arms at once giving everything a completely spotless clean every time reaching every corner nook and cranny, at least with this new/old Jetclean arm i installed into my PC and it now spins faster than the lower arm does due to the smaller jets and has better propulsion.

Congratulations on the new machine and hope it will serve you well for many years, cheers to well built older and modern WP machines! I have so far heard good things about the new system, other than the strange chopper blade malfunction but I think that also happened in the generation we have now.

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After several washes now, I would note that the only time I got sub-par wash results was once when I tried the Auto setting. Otherwise, I use Normal, and I think I used Quick once for a light load. This thing is definitely the quietest dishwasher I've ever had. The steel front is supposed to be fingerprint resistant, and so far that claim seems true.

My only complaint is that my everyday wine glasses with stems don't stand up in the middle rack very well. I know other WP/KA models have fold up/down stem holders, so I might do some research (i.e. take pics at home depot/lowes) to see if they might retrofit to mine if I can get the part online. Otherwise, I can't imagine a better $600 dishwasher (It's not on Costco site currently, so maybe it was a limited build or something)
 
maytag dishwasher observations

Hey guys, I was at my friend Matt's house for blueberry pancakes and coffee among the usual breakfast items today. I ran their dishwasher and discovered that it alternated wash arms all throughout the cycle. Finally, my answer put my nagging question to rest about their latest dishwashers.
 

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