New Dryers

[roscoe62]

Thanks nmassman44

Logic tells me if the gas version is doing this, stay away from the electric one, if it can't be fixed, hopefully it can be returned,I'll go to a more moderate version of something else.
Appreciate your help here, I'm beginning to think it's a design flaw with the way the clothes move in the machine, it seems to be around the door more, landing and circling on and off the vent for the lint trap.I did call Electrolux, they said the load was too small, but it isn't, it's the dryer!
Maybe the one who designed the machine needs a good boot in the wazoo, either way it's not working well at this point.

 

[nmassman44]

One thing that my 527 dryer has that the 627 dryer doesn’t have, or at least the ones I have seen around here is this variator vane. It keeps the load moving around the drum and doesn’t allow for balling up sheets or tangling. It also keeps stuff from collecting in the door opening. My dryer has the same drying sensor system...Predicitve Dry and it performs quite well with my model. If you decide to swap out dryers, look into the 527.... here is a pic of said vane

 

[nmassman44]

Here is a pic of what the other two vanes look like...

 

[jerrod6]

Energy Star Rated

The 527 and 627 Electrolux dryers are Energy Star Rated. In other words, they meet the energy requirements set by governments. It is likely that the dryers are made to use a lower heat so that they can meet the energy requirements. All new dryers are now Energy Star Rated so you may find that any new dryer will act the same way or worse.

 

[chachp]

My Samsung..

 

<span style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; font-size: 14pt;">I also have the steam cycle and I like it to refresh things that are wrinkled.  I'd hate to give that up.  I will say, on mine, most of the preprogrammed cycles take way too long and leave the clothes still a little damp like the t shirts bands you mention.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; font-size: 14pt;">I've just learned that when I use the manual settings it seems to get warmer and the moisture control works much better meaning the clothes are dry when its finished.  </span>

 

<span style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; font-size: 14pt;">Mine is electric BTW.</span>

 

[roscoe62]

Variator Vane

Yup I have the same it works great with a comforter, and most loads, unless it's smaller, I add a large beach towel. It'll keep things moving, but clothes do keep landing on & off the door vent.
From what I've heard the burner may not be firing to full capacity or the high limit switch is gone giggly.
So after about ten minutes the machine is running and you open the door can you feel hot or warm air, on mine its very
gentle heat nothing near hot?
Here's my drum the dryer is white not that odd glare color.

 

[nmassman44]

Now that is interesting since here in the US that model has a stainless steel drum and does not have the variator baffle. I wonder if the Canadian model is a different animal all together.

 

[roscoe62]

Made in USA

 

[henene4]

So, if it's converted to LP and running on LP, is it running on bottled LP?

If so, if I know anything, there should be a pressure regulator in line, right?
Maybe that has gone wonky or is somehow limiting gas flow to much?
Or the dryer hasn't been converted&#92adjusted enough in some way?

If anything, get a technician to check it out or return it, these machines should still be done in an hour.

Question is though if the predictive dry estimates 95+ min straight away or if it just takes that long.

Former would point more towards spinning issues or (not sure on where this is set up or if that system even checks for that) verry cold laundry or intake air.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

LG dryer normal cycle temperature

I too have noticed this on my LG dryer and my Kenmore elite dryer built by the same people. On my previous GE, the normal cycle had high heat. I had the matching electric set. I disable the energy saver option on my Kenmore elite model. Makes no sense why the normal cycle uses medium heat. Casuals/permanent press uses low heat, delicate uses low, and ultra delicate uses extra low. I don't know where they were going with the idea of normal cycle using medium heat. The normal cycle with energy saver disabled takes 41 minutes.

 

[nmassman44]

Look a bit further to the left on the tag and it will say Made in Mexico. These dryers are not made here in the USA, I wish that they were though. And the pic of your dryer drum looks a bit like stainless steel to my eyes. With my 527's drum there is no doubt that its white.
That said I am wondering if when they converted your dryer for LP gas use what they actually did to it. That tag just says the control was converted, but what about the burner orafice and pressure regulator?

 

[DADoES]

 
Last new dryer I bought was done in 2004.  Its target temps are 149°F, 140°F, & 127°F.  No issues with drying speed or moisture sensor performance.

 

[roscoe62]

Found something

Nothing from the tech guy yet still waiting to hear from him / her, I may have a wonky propane line or as suggested a burner conversion problem.

I did find this on the internet from Energy Star Market & Industry Report as follows;
“Eco-Mode” options or other similar settings can save energy by reducing power output while lengthening the drying process and/or stopping the dryer before clothes are completely dry. Such settings may also incorporate a variable heat source. One manufacturer has noted a 40% dryer energy savings from using this energy efficient mode or cycle. However, recent testing by Ecova (formally Ecos Consulting) on behalf of NRDC, found that “eco modes” on two dryer models provided no energy savings if clothes are dried to a similar level of dryness reached in other modes.48 Ecova suggested a truly energy-saving “eco-mode” could be accomplished by modulating the heater power and fan speed.
A lower heat setting can also improve energy efficiency and reduce energy consumption, since less energy use used to heat air, cloth and metal. For example, Ecova testing for NRDC found a 13% difference in energy consumption between the highest and lowest heat settings for one clothes dryer model tested when drying the same load, at the expense of a 14-minute increase in drying time.

So as Jerrod6 replied about Energy Star Dryers and the 527 & 627 are rated as Star, it may explain why it takes longer to dry, it's the make -up of the machine and where they are going with appliances.

Yes the drum in my dryer is stainless. It's too bad they don't tell us this when buying new appliances, I'm beginning to believe it's more product ignorance on the supplier's part, or maybe as a consumer we need to ask more specific questions.

 

[logixx]

Electrolux 400, 500 and 600 dryers

Reviewed.com measured temps roughly from 120 to 135F on the Normal cycle - presumably with Eco engaged.

 

[henene4]

No energy savings if dried to a simmilar degree

Presumably that were timer based dryers with seperate temp selectors.
Those just dry shorter.

Just lowering temp will always save energy in a dryer.
At some point, tumble drying just becomes fancy hang drying, you know.

There was a UK only vented tumble dryer that had an Eco mode as efficent as the heatpump dryers of the time for a fraction of the cost.
Cycles took 8h and just used cold air.

On that note many dryers over here drasticly cut dryness when efficency suddenly became super important.
To the dispair of most consumers.

Now things start to recover and most Eco modes are close enough to dry to be considered a drying cycle and most manufacturers offering something between not quite dry enough and overdried.

What we have now is most dryers going to inverter motors as they usually save a couple dozen watts which is enough to be significant with our dryers.

Though what is honestly the real shame: We had dryers that could dry a 14lbs load from a spin result verry much comparable to todays US FLs to honestly dry in about 90min with less than 1.75kWh of energy about a decade ago.

For the price of some US vented dryers.

Now your vented dryers take just as long and probably use still more energy while costing probably the same.

 

[johnb300m]

“Now your vented dryers take just as long and probably use still more energy while costing probably the same.“

#America

 

[easy]

dry time

I have a LG 3500 dryer and do not find the drying times to be long at all. If I wash a load using the towels cycle (1300 rpm spin), I was the towels cycle on the dryer. For some reason it selects medium temperature and initially displays 58
minutes for the dry time. I usually select one level above regular dryness level.

I've gone back to the dryer after 40 minutes and found it has completed the cycle. All items were perfectly dry.

 

[combo52]

All new North American Dryers Are NOT Energy-Star

And in general there has been NO increase in dryers running time, in fact many customers often tell how much faster there new dryers seem to be.

The only new dryers I have had long drying complaints on are WPs 27" hybrid Heat-Pump models, and of course all the little Miele and Bosch dryers-etc.

John L.