bradfordwhite
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Guess where it's from? That's right China and it's reasonably priced.
New Electric car getting Over 600 miles Range It's NOT a Tessie
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I am not so sure about cars from the CCP.
I agree with Louis. I honestly don’t feel like sending my hard earned money to a foreign country, who knows how much money we’ve sent to other countries since the 1990’s with NAFTA. I’ll happily take a hybrid or EV from either Ford or GM any day over buying something from China. There really needs to be more tariffs put ANY product that’s imported to the US new, simply am tired of all the new foreign goods that are dumped in the US on a daily basis let alone a year.
seedub
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Yeah, it's reasonably priced alright
Seeing as the Chinese government heavily subsidizes these cars and there is a deep pool of cheap labor.
Seeing as the Chinese government heavily subsidizes these cars and there is a deep pool of cheap labor.
I would love a full-electric car but I hate stopping for refueling so I need minimum 400-mile range to cover the longest road-trip (one-way) I'd typically make. My hybrid is fine until then.
That’s the beauty of a hybrid car, when the battery runs low, it simply kicks the engine on and as soon as battery is charged up, it turns the engine off. Basically an EV without the drawbacks of short/limited range.
And in a hybrid car when you brake the braking energy goes to help charge the traction battery.Don't know if breaking puts a charge in the battery my present Toyota electric car when you brake.
Any current full-electric car will have regenerative braking. (Recharges battery when braking.)
In Nissan Leaf, and I suspect most or all other electric cars on the market today, you can select how "aggressive" you want the regen to be - in some, you just release your foot from the accelerator and it regenerates strongly enough to not need actual brakes applied.
They call it one-pedal driving.
We hired a Toyota Aqua hybrid when on holiday (our honeymoon!) in New Zealand last year. It had non-adjustable regenerative braking. It had a small bar graph on the dashboard to show you how much current was being returned to the battery during downhill coasting and braking. The fuel economy was impressive. (though a very unimpressive car in other ways...)
The Aqua is a hybrid version of the Toyota Yaris, sold in other markets as Prius C. In Japan they are badged as Toyota Aqua, and were for a while Japan's best selling car. New Zealand imports a lot of used Japanese cars, so it is common there to see the Japanese domestic market model names.
In Nissan Leaf, and I suspect most or all other electric cars on the market today, you can select how "aggressive" you want the regen to be - in some, you just release your foot from the accelerator and it regenerates strongly enough to not need actual brakes applied.
They call it one-pedal driving.
We hired a Toyota Aqua hybrid when on holiday (our honeymoon!) in New Zealand last year. It had non-adjustable regenerative braking. It had a small bar graph on the dashboard to show you how much current was being returned to the battery during downhill coasting and braking. The fuel economy was impressive. (though a very unimpressive car in other ways...)
The Aqua is a hybrid version of the Toyota Yaris, sold in other markets as Prius C. In Japan they are badged as Toyota Aqua, and were for a while Japan's best selling car. New Zealand imports a lot of used Japanese cars, so it is common there to see the Japanese domestic market model names.
I hope this is true and not in the distant future
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bradfordwhite
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Toyota has been throwing out b.s. about some mystery battery that they were going to have out there "in about 12 months" for years now. They and Honda, and Subaru are not even attempting to enter the electric car mkt. They are dying on the vine. That's how it goes.
There is nothing b.s. about that new battery. They are making a serious attempt to develop a next generation model that is smaller but has a bigger capacity. Besides that it will be faster to charge and has a smaller impact on the environment. They are going to test it first in hybrid models, not a giant step, but Toyota limits it's risks. Very wise.
BTW, is this not an attempt to enter the electric car market?
https://www.toyota.com/bz4x/
These are already on the market.
BTW, I'd rather stick to facts than ventilate opinions based on nothing.
BTW, is this not an attempt to enter the electric car market?
https://www.toyota.com/bz4x/
These are already on the market.
BTW, I'd rather stick to facts than ventilate opinions based on nothing.
bradfordwhite
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BZ4X is made FOR Toyota by BYD of China.
Weak EV manufacturers will probably continue to simply slap their name on other manufacturers products as they continue to slip into obscurity.
It isn't my opinion that Toy, Honda, and Subaru are not taking the electric car market serious. It's a fact.
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"I'd rather stick to facts than ventilate opinions based on nothing."
That's nice.
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Weak EV manufacturers will probably continue to simply slap their name on other manufacturers products as they continue to slip into obscurity.
It isn't my opinion that Toy, Honda, and Subaru are not taking the electric car market serious. It's a fact.
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"I'd rather stick to facts than ventilate opinions based on nothing."
That's nice.
Hi, hello and Welcome to blogging. You'll meet a variety of people in places like this.
Some people in this and other various forums only robotically recite facts.
Others express their feelings.
Some are funny,
some are mentally challenged,
others have a mix of attributes
some are annoying.
Some people are bots
some commenters actually have good ideas but come across like a-holes
some are scammers
some are lovely but never come back.
most are rarely the same person in "real life" as they appear in a blog or on video.
Just as in life.
Enjoy.
Toyota partners with BYD to build affordable $30,000 electric car
Toyota has reportedly partnered with China’s BYD to build a new affordable electric car to launch next year. The Japanese...
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Lotta stuff is "made by somebody else." That's not a significant conscious point to majority of the consumer public.
Some may find this video interesting. Sabine acknowledges in a comment that she mistakenly said (at 4:25) that the U.S. has only 120v power.
Yes, it’s a Chinese car, just like Volvo’s and the new Smart #1 and also a lot of European cars that are made (partly) in China. If you want to compete, you need to keep an eye on the costs. You may not like it, but it’s happening.
firedome
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"Basically an EV without drawbacks of short/limited rang
but with the drawback of far greater complexity.
So far electrics have been found to have 40% less maintenance expense, and probably more vs a hybrid, not to mention the huge reduction in fuel expense. Electrics cars are relatively far more simple, and cars from China are already here, the small Buick CUV was the first one several years ago.
but with the drawback of far greater complexity.
So far electrics have been found to have 40% less maintenance expense, and probably more vs a hybrid, not to mention the huge reduction in fuel expense. Electrics cars are relatively far more simple, and cars from China are already here, the small Buick CUV was the first one several years ago.
Okay here is the sole reason to ban gas powered vehicles for me:
So if instead of driving to and from Kroger in Birmingham, MI where I work at, I can just walk a few blocks to work at the Kroger in my town of Oak Park, MI but not sit in that booth watching all the drive-offs without paying for their gas and turning on and off the right pumps and other items those gas shacks sell see getting stolen!
No I just only want to work in the store as the checkout guy!
And as early as NEXT YEAR TWO ThOUSAND TWENTY FOUR when my lease on my jeep ends so I will never need to drive again or just borrow the wife's EV and become a one-car family aagain...
-- Dave
So if instead of driving to and from Kroger in Birmingham, MI where I work at, I can just walk a few blocks to work at the Kroger in my town of Oak Park, MI but not sit in that booth watching all the drive-offs without paying for their gas and turning on and off the right pumps and other items those gas shacks sell see getting stolen!
No I just only want to work in the store as the checkout guy!
And as early as NEXT YEAR TWO ThOUSAND TWENTY FOUR when my lease on my jeep ends so I will never need to drive again or just borrow the wife's EV and become a one-car family aagain...
-- Dave
Sabine posted this revision on the video above. The original is now inaccessible.
vacerator
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I wouldn't
buy a Tesla now NO WAY!
buy a Tesla now NO WAY!
bradfordwhite
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The automotive market is changing so fast I'd be afraid to buy any model right now.
Pity the fools stupid enough to buy some $100K vehicle and are stuck with a $1000+ a month payment. LOL. Welcome to major negative equity.
I've said it a while back:
When the robotaxi is rolled out nation wide, I'd rather not have a car and just use the robo vehicle service.
Pity the fools stupid enough to buy some $100K vehicle and are stuck with a $1000+ a month payment. LOL. Welcome to major negative equity.
I've said it a while back:
When the robotaxi is rolled out nation wide, I'd rather not have a car and just use the robo vehicle service.
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