new fridgedair dishwasher

[pierreandreply4]

hello to all aw members as any one seen the commercial for the new fridgedair dishwasher recently they replace the bottom wash arm with a circular thing and they call it the orbi clean system is this any diffrent from a regular 3 arm dishwasher here is a video to show?

 

[chris74]

Nothing new to European customers

Orbital spray systems are available for quite a long time now. Don't think they work that well as advertising tries to imply...

 

[gansky1]

Dishwasher "arms race"

Consumer Reports had a picture of this in their recent issue and they found that between Frigidaire's 3-arm, their traditional wash-arm and their orbital sprayer ( that claims "four times better water coverage") all three washed similarly and none were on the 12 model recommended list because of "convenience or noise scores".

Since there are no published ratings of all the tested models in the print version of the magazine, I don't know what the actual ranking or scoring of the Frigidaire machines was. My subscription runs out in March '13 so I may never know.

 

[tomturbomatic]

TOL Frigidaire dishwashers by General Motors offered a spinning arm at one ond of the wash arm back in the late 60s, I think. More recently, GE offered them at each end of their wash arm.

 

[chris74]

The arm on arm thing...

...is what's AEGs latest...

 

[philr]

<span style="font-size: large;">This is nothing new to North American customers either! </span>

Here's the spray arm from my 1969 Canadian Frigidaire dishwasher... Model DWC-JMP (same as the US model DW CIMP) which was converted to an undercounter installation with a kit from Frigidaire.  





A small low quality video (sorry we don't see any action there, it's just for the sound!)

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They even used a similar color for the silverware basket handle.

 

[appnut]

none were on the 12 model recommended list because of "c

Hmm.  Maybe a back-habnded compliment--maybe with the most intense pressure selected, it wasn't so quiet after all, which is a prominant important score for thhem.  A Frigidiare?  Naaahhh!!   Kind of like one of the new Maytag models (which still has a soft-food disposer in it), uses 12 gallons of water oin Heavy/Pots Pans cycle. 

 

[philr]

The blue auxiliary spray arm in the Orbit Clean model seems mounted very loosely on the main spray arm from the animation videos they show in ads, I'm wondering if it's engineered to increase the water coverage or if it's just because it's cheaper to build that way? It probably doesn't help with the noise factor. 

 

One thing I like about this ad is that some variations of it show interesting vintage machines like an early Unimatic washer, a Laundry Center, a Thrifty 30 range and a 1966 Custom Imperial refrigerator. And I was pleased to see they were also translated in French for our small local market!

 

Now this should probably be in another thread but I'll post it here anyway...

One thing that makes me not so happy about Electrolux however is the fact that they're closing our last appliance factory in L'Assomption QC. It's just a few miles from where I live and I know a few persons among the 1300 employees who work there... 

I think that manufacturing is at the base of the economy of any wealthy country and there isn't much left here! And our government doesn't seem to figure how or even care about protecting our manufacturing jobs. 

This time, jobs will be transferred in Tennessee in a brand new, almost free factory. And probably because of the nicer weather and more central location, Electrolux will save on shipping, taxes and heating bills. And their workers, even if they're paid about $4 less per hour, will be equally rich because they live in a place that requires less money (energy, snow removal and related taxes...) to get the same living standards... And the weather here also destroys our (fleet and personal) vehicles, our roads and our bridges which constantly need to fixed...

 

[bwoods]

Suborbital Spray arms are old technology, Chris.

As you saw, GM/General Motors used a mini spray arm over forty years ago. General Electric's Smart Wash System, from the mid-nineties, used two small spray arms mounted on each end of the main wash arm.

 

[imperial70]

So where does the new dishwasher vent?

I notice that they don't vent out the front. So where does all that hot moist steam go?  along the side of a cabinet?  Doesn't sound very good.

 

[washer111]

Sorry But:

They selected the "Scour" option, and all I saw was a little dribble on the plexiglass window showing the wash action. The upper rack gets better washability, based on this. 

Put in a Triple Pump, Drain, Upper Wash Arm and Lower Wash arm, for the BEST multi-level performance, rather than a "one size fits all' arrangement, which leaves something to be desired at either end of the scale.

 

The thing will probably fall in a heap of split and melted plastic before it can clean your Pots and Pans to perfection.

 

[chris74]

It's just old wine...

...in new bags, do one say that in North America, too? I wonder about the Sahara drying technique but as it was written, even that seems not to outperform other brands.
Thanks @ bwoods.

 

[bwoods]

drying exhaust

The video stated that forced air came in from the top of the tub, and if you look closely, you can see a vent up there. So, I wonder if the moist air leaves the tub at a vent in the lower front of the machine, underneath the bottom of the door.

 

[philr]

I don't see what's new about forced air drying? Many dishwashers had that since ages and that includes my avocado dishwasher!

 

[chris74]

I believe...

...they left fan-assisted drying in Euro models quite some time ago and go for residual heat instead.