New Front Loader

[frigilux]

1. Kelvinator's Magic Minute: The tub filled about 2/3 full and began its concentric agitation for a minute or so; agitation continued as the tub finished filling. The rationale was that detergent was more concentrated during the Magic Minute and helped remove stains. I don't really buy it, but it was a selling point for the company. The concentration of detergent in today's HE washers (especially front-loaders) is far greater for the entire wash portion of the cycle.  

 

Maytag's Cold Wash cycle wets the clothing with a spray of detergent-laden water.  Then it tumbles at varying speeds, sometimes fast enough to plaster the load to the sides of the drum, essentially pulling the super-concentrated detergent through fibers.  The rest of the water and (some additional detergent) is added after about 15 minutes and the cycle continues.  I found cleaning very effective---but I'm not one to wash everything in cold.

 



 

2.  No Maytag has recirculation, as did my TOL 2010 Frigidaire.  Water for the wash and 1st rinse is sprayed in a fan-like formation if you use the auto-dosing detergent cartridge.  It looks like recirculation in photos, but it is not.

[this post was last edited: 8/3/2017-10:39]

 

[henene4]

The Kelvinator washed with all detergent, yet half load of water for the first minute or two, and then filled to the max level. Same principal as F&Ps Eco Active wash, or the pretreatment stage on some WP HE TLs.

And no, no current WP build FL has a true recirculation system. The machines with the automatic dispensing have a spray nozzle that sprays the detergent water mixture directly onto the load while filling, but that really is just water line pressure.

 

[brucelucenta]

LG

But LG has re circulation on the heavy duty cycle.

 

[mark_wpduet]

LG has recirculation

on almost all cycles if turbo wash is on.....from what I gather....and it also does a legit spray rinse....
I swear I thought the TOL Maxima had re-circulation based on the pictures. Good to know it doesn't.....The cold wash cycle you described sounds similar to the way the rinses work on my duet....after each spin, the washer slows but keeps a slow spin as it fills pulling water through the clothes and sloshing it all over while the clothes are still plastered to the drum. I think it REALLY helps with rinsing. Even though I don't like using COLD either, I'll bet it's a cool cycle to watch.
I'm personally still so torn on getting an LG with turbowash or a Maxima when my washer dies. I may get the Maxima simply because it will fit my old school duet pedestals..

 

[rubaducky]

Thanks for all the well-expressed explanations and replies.

My new thermal fuse tripped again today. Made it five days. Wife was doing a mid-sized load of towels. Could more weight (towels) cause the drum to "sag", maybe causing the drum/tub to touch something that is tripping the fuse?

Anyway, back to the to old "slam it into the concrete floor" and we're up and running again. Hoping to make it to Labor Day...and catch some good sales. Mark's post got me thinking if the pedestals on my Kenmore Elites will fit the Maytag Maximas?

 

[mark_wpduet]

they might

I had much trouble finding this out...and I still don't know for sure because of the different answers I got...Calling Whirlpool, giving them details on my machine....one person said no, the next 2 said yes....they linked me to the pedestals and they look exactly like mine in the picture - they even asked me if those looked like the ones on my current duet.....At any rate, I'm semi-confident my 2005 pedestals will fit current WP or Maytag FL's.

As for Kenmore - who knows? I know WP makes Kenmore (or they used to), I think its LG now. But Kenmore likes to to design changes so who knows.

At any rate - pedestals are a huge expense but they are so nice to have. It would be a major waste if they did not fit and if they don't, I'm not so sure I would buy more.....because I don't think a FL washer sitting on the floor is any worse than a regular dryer...they are at the same level, but people seem to complain about bending down to unload the washer, yet that was never EVER a problem with a dryer - but it's the same thing.

 

[iheartmaytag]

Mark

I am fairly sure the pedestals will fit the newer models.  All you really need is the size (footprint) and the leg mounts to match up.

 

Where you will notice they are from a different version is the styling is slightly different, so you may not have  chrome stripe where the newer pedestals would have.

 

And you are correct about them being an expense.  I paid $250 each for mine, but I got a $400 rebate card back, so I figured they only cost me $100 in the end.