New Kenmore dishwashers with Whirlpool's PowerWave wash arm

[washerdude]

I find that these dishwashers with the filters do a pre-rinse at the start of any cycle. This I think is to find how hot the water is. If the water is not hot enough, it does it again. In my kenmore, I always run hot water before I start it because it shaves off a good 20-40 minutes of the cycle and the pre-rinse goes right into the main wash without draining because the water is hot enough.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

13222 model

I have been getting good results from my Kenmore 665.13222. Very quiet and does a great job despite the tiny pumps.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

noise when empty

The noise of this machine sounds very powerful when empty especially from the bottom rack spray arm.

 

[murando531]

Thread revivals like this continually remind me of how ignorant I was for not giving these machines a chance before forming my opinion on them. That WP 920 with the TotalCoverage arm could scrub the paint off a Jeep, and continues to do so at my grandparents' house. I think I have more than learned my lesson with the several GlobalWash machines I've owned so far and have loved each of them, and now I find myself excited about new designs like the new Whirlpool platform launching now, rather than dreading change the way I did years ago. So, don't make my mistakes, try new machines and give them a chance, don't write them off immediately and then be forced to eat crow like I have. Haha

 

[gelaundry4ever]

whirlpool line

Hey Andrew,
Do you think that the Maytag filtration will trickle into the whirlpool line? It would be interesting if they did, and use the total coverage wash system with the big motor. It could be similar to the point/voyager hybrid design.

 

[murando531]

I'd imagine that we'll see the new design on the Whirlpool side by next year. Typically it seems like WP treats their lineup the way car companies do, for example you'll see more premium features on an Audi before it trickles down to a VW, or a Lexus down to a Toyota. (I'd say Acura to Honda as well but for the past several years, Honda is getting the sexier interiors and features and Acura's line is so stagnant and dated.) So that said, with KitchenAid and Maytag being Whirlpool's "premium" brands, they're going to push these new models for a while as "new and luxury" and the Whirlpools will stay with the GlobalWash platform a bit longer.

Who knows about a TotalCoverage arm in the new ones, because I love the sleek minimal steel arms in the new models, but they put so much time and work into that TC arm and it actually WORKS and isn't just gimmicky (looking at you KitchenAid with that ugly three armed monstrosity), it would be a shame to just scrap it.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

interesting...

It's interesting to notice this happening. I remember when Kitchenaid came out with the point/voyager designed taller tub models along with the Kenmore line in 2000. A year later, whirlpool did the same. It's also interesting how the pump suction on the global wash system sucks all that water to blast everything. You would thing the global wash system would be at the TOL models. Interesting how everything's switched around. It would be interested in hearing how this dishwasher sounds, especially the new ones that just came out.

 

[appnut]

Andrew, in the tech/service manual for the new KA and Maytag, it mentioned the current new ones are the "K" series.  It stated an "L" series will be brought out in 2021.  

 

[gelaundry4ever]

l series

What will be different with the l series from the k series?