ariston4life
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Recirculation Pumps & H-Axis Washing Machines
Years ago when one was just starting out on the Internet and becoming *more* interested in laundry appliances, came across an article online about future of H-Axis washer design. Long story short is that once water levels go below a certain point you pretty much must have some sort of recirculation system to get the job done to any satisfaction.
Normally with H-Axis washers there is enough water that "scoop and ladle" of water along with gravity will do the job. When you move to lower and lower water levels that system will only get you but so far as much of the water is absorbed by the washing with little excess to be ladled about.
As shown in pictures of my AEG Lavamat during a normal "cottons/easy care" cycle there is *VERY* little water to be seen. Certainly much less than what one is used to from the Miele with it's five gallons of water per wash cycle.
Years ago when one was just starting out on the Internet and becoming *more* interested in laundry appliances, came across an article online about future of H-Axis washer design. Long story short is that once water levels go below a certain point you pretty much must have some sort of recirculation system to get the job done to any satisfaction.
Normally with H-Axis washers there is enough water that "scoop and ladle" of water along with gravity will do the job. When you move to lower and lower water levels that system will only get you but so far as much of the water is absorbed by the washing with little excess to be ladled about.
As shown in pictures of my AEG Lavamat during a normal "cottons/easy care" cycle there is *VERY* little water to be seen. Certainly much less than what one is used to from the Miele with it's five gallons of water per wash cycle.
glenfieldmathk1
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Looks amazing
IFA starts tomorrow, so I guess even more pics?
Hopefully we can see it working too.
2014?? Thats a while to wait, but hopefully the date will be brought forward, especially if there's a lot of interest at IFA.
Hopefully some Youtubers will be able to Upload vids of the new machine working.
IFA starts tomorrow, so I guess even more pics?
Hopefully we can see it working too.
2014?? Thats a while to wait, but hopefully the date will be brought forward, especially if there's a lot of interest at IFA.
Hopefully some Youtubers will be able to Upload vids of the new machine working.
Miele W1 and T1 Laundry Series...
Looking great and a welcome style change with a fab range of features, PowerStream, TwinDos, and Flacons of Fragrence.....What Next?
Looking great and a welcome style change with a fab range of features, PowerStream, TwinDos, and Flacons of Fragrence.....What Next?
It looks indeed like the opening is oval.
Washer wise nothing really new. Just some options like the "Hygiene"-Option comming on BSH washers, AEG steamdryers and thats pretty much all I know about.
I red through the German text and was verry curious about seing them in reallife. The thing why the drum looks somehow other is that it is indeed a completly new deigned and engeniered drum. It is called the "Thermoschontrommel" (don't know how to say in english). It got bigger, more bendend honey combs and even smaller wholes.And, they say, all washers have AT LEAST 8kg drum volume. Maybe a 9kg or even bigger vesion comming?
On the other hand, they switched the steam off the washers onto the dryers, giving the washers the option pre-ironing which heats up the drum after the spin to reduce wrinkels.
The dryerdoor is shaped like that because of the "fragrencedos" feature which is nothing more like the previously released system and because of the filter being designed ton catch even more fluff.
No, thats not the dryer-rack, it is just a glass-shape to guide air.
What I am keen on is seing the pre-ironing option and some of the ProgrammManager options at work as well as the new and only on the market programm where you tell the washer which few items you add, like shirt,jeans,pair of socks, underwear and then it modells a perfect wash cycle...
I red through the German text and was verry curious about seing them in reallife. The thing why the drum looks somehow other is that it is indeed a completly new deigned and engeniered drum. It is called the "Thermoschontrommel" (don't know how to say in english). It got bigger, more bendend honey combs and even smaller wholes.And, they say, all washers have AT LEAST 8kg drum volume. Maybe a 9kg or even bigger vesion comming?
On the other hand, they switched the steam off the washers onto the dryers, giving the washers the option pre-ironing which heats up the drum after the spin to reduce wrinkels.
The dryerdoor is shaped like that because of the "fragrencedos" feature which is nothing more like the previously released system and because of the filter being designed ton catch even more fluff.
No, thats not the dryer-rack, it is just a glass-shape to guide air.
What I am keen on is seing the pre-ironing option and some of the ProgrammManager options at work as well as the new and only on the market programm where you tell the washer which few items you add, like shirt,jeans,pair of socks, underwear and then it modells a perfect wash cycle...
Now, finally, they are on the German Miele website. Maybe not right know readable, but they are listed 
It's a pity they're not doing a vented option on the dryer though.
Is heat-pump condensing really that much more efficient than vented?
I don't really understand why all the manufacturers are so obsessed with condensing dryers. Core-drilling a hole in the wall of your house isn't THAT big a deal.
I can understand it might be an issue for apartment-dwellers, but up here, that's a relatively small % of the market. Most of us have plenty of gable walls.
Is heat-pump condensing really that much more efficient than vented?
I don't really understand why all the manufacturers are so obsessed with condensing dryers. Core-drilling a hole in the wall of your house isn't THAT big a deal.
I can understand it might be an issue for apartment-dwellers, but up here, that's a relatively small % of the market. Most of us have plenty of gable walls.
Core-drilling a hole in the wall of your house isn't THA
Not so much the work but some codes simply restrict that sort of thing period. Take Paris and other major urban and or historic cities in France. You simply aren't going to be allowed to drill holes in those Haussmann or other historic buildings.
Not so much the work but some codes simply restrict that sort of thing period. Take Paris and other major urban and or historic cities in France. You simply aren't going to be allowed to drill holes in those Haussmann or other historic buildings.
According to the German Miele website, a vented dryer consumes 3.58kWh for a standard program fully loaded. A heatpump dryer consumes 2.14kWh for the same load.
frontloaderfan
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Thermoschontrommel...
"Gentle thermo-drum" perhaps?
"Gentle thermo-drum" perhaps?
I'm sure this machines will be great. For the caps idea is like the Nespresso concept. Also the box presentation is like the coffee one. Even the stand at IFA feel like a Nestle one. The bottom line... still a Miele great product.
Yeah, really like the BOL dryer as it is as efficent as the other dryers (except one being A++ in sted of A+), not more expensive the the others and pretty easy to use and has everything you need. And, what I'm suprised about, they offer some 9kg washers...
lavamat_jon
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Brochure now on the German website.
Can't quite decide whether I like the chrome or white series better!
http://miele.de/ex/prospects/de/2013_04/9721 310_Prospekt_NWG2013/pdf/all.pdf
Can't quite decide whether I like the chrome or white series better!
http://miele.de/ex/prospects/de/2013_04/9721 310_Prospekt_NWG2013/pdf/all.pdf
Would have to see them in real life. The white ones are concarv on the front from the panel to the feet. Don't know if I like this ore if I just love it
@launderess
The vast majority of buildings aren't Hausmann areas of Paris or protected structures. Situations like that are pretty much special cases.
Apartment buildings obviously have issues if you don't own the external walls of the building.
However, your typical suburban home, doesn't have any issue with being core drilled (as long as you avoid the wiring, plumbing, cat etc)
The vast majority of buildings aren't Hausmann areas of Paris or protected structures. Situations like that are pretty much special cases.
Apartment buildings obviously have issues if you don't own the external walls of the building.
However, your typical suburban home, doesn't have any issue with being core drilled (as long as you avoid the wiring, plumbing, cat etc)
From Speaking With Friends In Frace
Upshot for most was that if extracted properly things will dry fast enough being left line drying either indoors or out. Electric rates being dear the results often are faster (during warmer parts of the year), then messing about with a condenser dryer. If they live in any of the large cities such as Paris local launderettes have larger and more powerful dryers that will get the job done say in winter and or when weather does not permit good drying.
One GF said she simply does a load early in the day and hangs things up before leaving for work/going out for the day. By the time she returns things are dry.
Most of one's friends in France live in cities, haven't heard back from those that live in the countryside.
Upshot for most was that if extracted properly things will dry fast enough being left line drying either indoors or out. Electric rates being dear the results often are faster (during warmer parts of the year), then messing about with a condenser dryer. If they live in any of the large cities such as Paris local launderettes have larger and more powerful dryers that will get the job done say in winter and or when weather does not permit good drying.
One GF said she simply does a load early in the day and hangs things up before leaving for work/going out for the day. By the time she returns things are dry.
Most of one's friends in France live in cities, haven't heard back from those that live in the countryside.
Well, most new German houses today are built mostly air tight with a special temperature exchanger venting system, so, core-drilling would just blow up the several thousands you have to pay for that.
By the way, these systems are being used espacially in low enegy houses and such things...
By the way, these systems are being used espacially in low enegy houses and such things...
