Glad this mentions the real stumbling block of front loaders needing more time to wash and rinse a load compared to top loaders. That's bad for the owners of the place and bad for customers' time. The Assn of Home Appliance Manufacturers pointed out that top loaders that rely only on spray rinsing do not thoroughly remove lint, suds and other solid particles. Also, as Jeff_Adelphi has told me, the testimony pointed out that large loads in some of the HE top loaders do not even get wet in the middle. I liked the part about the super efficient washer that dumbed down the hot fill to 108F and warm to 71F. Those are warm and cold in my book. Whose cooties will you be taking home from the laundromat? People who run coin laundries reported that they have tried the ultra efficient machines but had to replace them because of customer complaints. Whirlpool reported at one fifth of the people who bought front loaders replaced it with a top loader and you have to admit that there are some pretty poorly performing front loaders out there. If Consumer Reports were testing ALL models of front loaders and using the "Reflectometer" and other tools from the 50s, they would find a lot of stinko performers, especially if they duplicated conditions in many installations where the machine is located far from the water heater, no cold water is bled from the pipes, the water heater is set at 120F and the amount of water used to fill the washer is so small that it never gets more than a cold wash. I have not seen reports of tests of many of the smaller foreign machines that do not spin well between the water changes. I remember reading in WHICH? decades ago, the honest reporting on the rinsing in the front-loading automatics which in most cases was only "fair". I am sure that as machines got better and did more extracting between water changes that improved, but so many that are being sold here are not in that category. All I can say is that if you have something old that performs to your satisfaction, take care of it and hang on to it. What a world. What a world.