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OK, so the government in it's infinite wisdom is going to save me $50 a year and charge me $214.00 to do so. OMG.

TLs will reduce to 28.05 gallons (my SQ is 3.3cu ft @ 31 gallons now - down from 36 from previous years). I had to increase the water lever (thank god I could) in order to do anything other than a traditional "medium" load.

See link for specifics...section "C". Although this document states 'commercial' machines, Consumer Reports stated 'consumer' in a subcriber-only report.

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/E9-30891.htm
 
As I posted in another thread-TL fans will have to STOCK up on their favorites before they are krushed!STUPID RESTRIUCTIONS!!!!!VOTE OUT THE POLITICAL TRASH THAT KEEPS ENACTING THEM!!!!!We do not need these silly and stupid appliance water restrictions-these folks have not seen typical water use charts-in most cases you use MORE water during bathing and hand washing then in your appliances-not to mention outdoor use of water for lawn and garden watering,washing cars,filling backyard pools.
 
Rex....

...Stay tuned, for they will probably target:

- Shower roses/heads
- Dishwashers (if they havn't already)
- Toilets (I think they have done already?)
- Taps - 'pearlator' taps are required here...basically they give the feel of 'full' water but the stream contains a lot of air...sinks take forever to fill

next.........

....and then you can have the joys of water restrictions that we have had for the last 5yrs...

We can't:

- water lawns except with 'grey' (think washing machine water) or rain tank water.
- can only water garden beds, including vegetables, on and 'odds and evens' house number basis depending on the date
- can only do this early morning or after 7pm
- watering MUST be done by hand-held hose with a trigger spray. No set sprinklers or in-ground systems to be used
- no hosing of driveways unless there is a health hazard (and no, leaves and dirt don't count)
- no washing of windows with mains water unless recycled (see 'grey' above)
- no filling or topping up of pools without a permit
- no washing of cars with a hose...including rinsing unless you use 'grey' water
- no allowing water to 'pool' or run-off when watering
- no filling of bird-baths or fish ponds

And I live in the National Capital.....

Be thankfull that you can still pretty much use as much water as you want....many of us can't.

Though, to make you a tad jealous, there are currently NO restrictions on water usage for washing machines....Our government(s) has tended to go with the carrot of 'have some rebate money for you efficient machine' rather than the 'no, you can't use that much water' route of legislation...

It's working. More and more people are switching to front-load or HE top load machines because of the financial incentives...
 
Glad this mentions the real stumbling block of front loaders needing more time to wash and rinse a load compared to top loaders. That's bad for the owners of the place and bad for customers' time. The Assn of Home Appliance Manufacturers pointed out that top loaders that rely only on spray rinsing do not thoroughly remove lint, suds and other solid particles. Also, as Jeff_Adelphi has told me, the testimony pointed out that large loads in some of the HE top loaders do not even get wet in the middle. I liked the part about the super efficient washer that dumbed down the hot fill to 108F and warm to 71F. Those are warm and cold in my book. Whose cooties will you be taking home from the laundromat? People who run coin laundries reported that they have tried the ultra efficient machines but had to replace them because of customer complaints. Whirlpool reported at one fifth of the people who bought front loaders replaced it with a top loader and you have to admit that there are some pretty poorly performing front loaders out there. If Consumer Reports were testing ALL models of front loaders and using the "Reflectometer" and other tools from the 50s, they would find a lot of stinko performers, especially if they duplicated conditions in many installations where the machine is located far from the water heater, no cold water is bled from the pipes, the water heater is set at 120F and the amount of water used to fill the washer is so small that it never gets more than a cold wash. I have not seen reports of tests of many of the smaller foreign machines that do not spin well between the water changes. I remember reading in WHICH? decades ago, the honest reporting on the rinsing in the front-loading automatics which in most cases was only "fair". I am sure that as machines got better and did more extracting between water changes that improved, but so many that are being sold here are not in that category. All I can say is that if you have something old that performs to your satisfaction, take care of it and hang on to it. What a world. What a world.
 
I'm grateful...

....that we have 240v power and all our frontload machines come with a heater....

In the not too distant past you could get Australian made top loaders with heaters too....

...and the vast majority of front load machines are cold connect only...which gives enzymes every step they need to work efficiently...

Now, as for rinsing, Choice has found too that some of both front and top load machines don't rinse brilliantly, but in domestic use, some of that can be put down to detergent choice and correct or incorrect dosage based on load and soil level.

Still, holding onto something because it works is a good thing to do....
 
Twin tub comeback perhaps?

Chris,
I wonder with water restrictions etc etc, if there would ever be a move back to twin tubs,(I hope so!!!),after all you can always save water with them by spinning your wash water back into the washtub for the next load and use your rinse water in the spinner for the same thing, I wonder if Electrolux and other manufacturers would ever consider returning to mass production of t.t.'s.
As far as I am aware there is about 3 on the market the Haier 6kg (which is what I have.),a Belair 6kg (made by Lemiar I think.),and a Daewoo 4kg, I have heard that Daewoo may be or have already released a 7kg t.t. but am not too sure if it is true or not.
 
You may have a point there...particularly with inland areas tha are even harder hit than we are....I mean Goulburn nearly ran out of water and they were trucking it in at one point (for others, Goulburn is 60miles away from me)

They could bring back the suds saver...and even use one for front loaders if they wanted to using the 1st or 2nd rinse water...
 
For your

everyday domestic machines, the new US Federal regulations administered by the Department of Energy that are associated with them; go into effect in January 2011.
 
I wonder if the new DOE regulations will do to washers what they did to dishwashers? I remember pictures of DOE testing dishwashers with standardized loads of clean dishes to see how well they performed with minimal amounts of water and electricity. Soon, the way to get clean clothes out of a washing machine will be the same way to get clean dishes out of a dishwasher; wash them before you load them into the washer or go back to what women did in previous centuries, soak them overnight before washing.
 
My new "high efficiency" WP dishwasher runs 3-4 hours on a "normal" load. Thank goodness it's quiet...or it would drive me nuts.
 

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