new samsung top load washer!

[toploader1984]

i love the waveforce action of the lg and harmony, but i hate that machine i always wished it was samsung that had it and not lg, i guess it is called "aquajet" technology, they have a base model of 4.0 cubic feet, a mid range of 4.2, and a king size model with 4.5 cubic feet, base model has 800 rpm spin while the 4.5 has 1,000 rpm, looks like a nice machine!

http://webapps.easy2.com/cm2/flash/generic_index.asp?page_id=36301153

 

[rinso]

Looks interesting.

 

[gansky1]

Funny they call it - and write it - as a Top Load Dryer.

This is a WA471 washer in action (after the tour) has a recirculating spray - shown in impelleration cycle:

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[mrb627]

Interesting...

I guess as water temperatures come down, washing machine agitation must be increased.

Malcolm

 

[aldspinboy]

Greg nice video ..
I watched this last week and thought not a bad machine.
Pretty mechanical in its washing mode.
Just seeing how the samsung FL are in the VRT mode really works.
I hope this is better then the LG that has been reported
as a blow up machine when spinning.
Cold Clean..Eco Clean..Turbo Clean
It's here ECO WASHING.
Like it or not.
I wonder what John thanks on VRT and Samsung washers..
TL wise.

Darren k

 

[chris74]

I will never understand...

...why these TLs (v-axxis) can be called high efficiency washers. The wash action looks rather poor, spraying the clothes from the top won't be helpful in removing stains. IMHO only front-loaders can really do a good job on one's washing... This looks and sounds like a toy!

 

[logixx]

This looks like a nice machine. But why did they away with the heater? And as far as eco-waashing is concerned: well, washerdryerinfo.com recently tested the more expensive TL from Samsung and found that some cycles, like Towels, use quite a bit of water. 81 gallons to be precise! (that's 300 liters)

http://www.washerdryerinfo.com/cont...ss-Steel-Washing-Macine-Review/Efficiency.htm

 

[jaxsunst]

My Samsung FL thas the VRT. Not sure how it works, but when it starts to spin, you can see it beginning to shake, then the faster it goes the more it smooths out. I love the machine, it is almost silent.

 

[chris74]

300 litres?

That's far from ecological washing! Modern front loaders like Siemens iQ-800 i-Dos with eco-perfect need only 50 litres per wash...

 

[qualin]

You know, I don't normally like the idea of washplate washers, but I love that recirculating water action.

At least, the clothing looks like it is getting wet and there can be a little turnover, reminds me a bit of a Filter Flo.

I would like to see one of these machines working with a full tub of clothing.

 

[logixx]

This looks pretty full:

 

[mrb627]

Full Load Video?

I'm not impressed...

Malcolm

 

[foraloysius]

Anemic wash action!

 

[tolivac]

No circulation or rollover----Give me an tub and agitator anyday!That machine is a joke!Thats not one of those washers that has the SPIN-SPLODE action is it?

 

[qualin]

It is a similar design, but it is the LG's that do that.. I don't know about the Samsungs.

Whenever I look at one of these things, the tub always moves around very easily.

 

[tolivac]

Hope the Samsungs don't get the Spin-splode action from LG-In the meantime-will shop for washers from the Swap shops and get the VINTAGE ones that have an agitator and actually fill with water!I just don't buy this wash the clothes in teaspoons of water.And at least vintage machines didn't spin blow up during spin cycles and mess up your place.-and if you were in the room with the machine when it let go-the schrapnel could hurt or kill you.

 

[toploader1984]

lg

i have been reading alot of reviews after i heard about the LGs exploding it seems that MOST of the incidents people put a comforter AND clothing in one load.... in all of the cases they selected the normal cycle which you are supposed to use bulky which disables the "waveforce" action. After reading reviews online it seems that the lg machine gets off balance VERY easily, i bet that people just ignore the machine when it is shaking like crazy and after a couple of minutes the plastic suspention components break, also by default in the bulky cycle i think the highest spin you can select is medium.

 

[qualin]

To Tolivac:

Just don't buy a vintage GE Filter-Flo... They didn't have any out of balance mechanism at all. They'll gladly walk across the floor and try and kill you.

Fortunately, at least GE built them tough enough that they wouldn't explode, but they would gladly strip off all of the porcelain on the outer drum from banging the inside of the cabinet.

I think the biggest issue with these "HE" style washplate machines is that they all seem to have a very wimpy suspension. Go to any modern appliance shop and take your hand and push against the inner tub. You can very easily bang the tub against the cabinet without much effort at all.

Now, do that with a conventional center post machine.. heck, even the dirt cheap Roper machines.. it's much harder to do.

I'm not sure why they put in such a useless suspension system in these machines, unless they did it to cut costs.

Here's a link to a thread about Non-Stop GE machines... I couldn't find any videos of crazy GE machines walking across the floor, but I'm sure any one of us on the forums has personally experienced it. (I know I did! We had to bolt ours down or it would dance across the basement floor.)

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?1277

 

[tolivac]

Yes,I have had GE washers in the past that tried to dance across the floor during spin--at least you can hear the commotion as the machine starts spinning and stop it and rearrange the load.But the GE machine doesn't "explode".I would rather deal with a GE machine than the LG with its "Spin-Splode" action.The LG one could be more dangerous than the GE.Wasn't there some instances where the TL Samsungs would explode too,if their loads were incorrect(operator selecting wrong cycle for the load) or out of balance?And the LG,Samsungs spin at faster speeds than the GE.

 

[jetcone]

Wow

Samsung takes 72 gallons for towels and 26 gallons for heavy duty// /// something is out of whack there!

A 1970's Frigidaire 1-18 can be set for 72 gallons 18 pounds of towels or about 20 gallons for quick loads and it does its cycle in about 35 -40 minutes depending on setting.

So where's the improvement???

My SQ (with the tweaked water setting mind YOU) will do 18 pounds of towels in 21 gallons!! And use only 7 gallons of hot water--HELOOOOOO??

 

[tolivac]

Could the 72 gallon water use on the Samsung towel cycle be a misprint?Did someone at Samsung hit the wrong button on their computer when typing up the specs?

 

[foraloysius]

Perhaps it's 27 instead of 72.

 

[logixx]

Where do these numbers come from? Couldn't find them in the specs, nor the manual.

Anyway, here's a quote. More in the link I gave above.

Water Use
Here’s where things get dicey. Run a normal wash cycle and it’ll use about 26 gallons of water. That definitely won’t get any awards from Greenpeace, but it’s still nothing compared to some of the WA5471ABP’s specialty cycles that can use a whopping 81 gallons of water to get clothes clean.

 

[toploader1984]

wrong

jetcone, not sure where u got your info from but 72 IS NOT TRUE it ranges from 16 to 19 gallons PER CYCLE, depending on the cycle, which isn't bad considering the capacity and that you can do 2 loads at once.

 

[gansky1]

Hang on a minute

Going by the table found in the link above, Jon's information was accurately repeated from that information. Do a little reading at the link to see how they come up with those figures.

 

[qualin]

How is that even possible? 72 gallons is about 270 litres...

What on Earth is going on? Are they running the fill and the pump at the same time to encourage decent water circulation? (My guess is to remove sand)

It's sad to think that a "conventional" top loading center post machine is much more efficient than these machines, which are supposed to be HE...

 

[logixx]

There's more on washerdryerinfo.com. These HE top loaders seem to use a high amount of on some cycles that, I suppose, fill the tub up or add extra rinses automatically.

Maytag Bravos X: 73 gal. on Allergen
Whirlpool WTW7300: 45 gal. on Whitest Whites
Whirlpool WTW8800: 43 gal. on Bulky
GE Profile Harmony: 83 gal. on Handwash (really?)

 

[gansky1]

That site is fascinating - they seem to be following some rigorous testing standards and set the bar pretty high for themselves. I want one of those button temperature sensors!

Just a "Quick Cycle" look around the site at some of the reviews, complete with pictures of the cleaning results and detailed opinions on controls, design, etc., they look to be doing what CR used to do...

An interesting find is the pictured results from some of the front-loaders cleaning performance, the Quick Cycle gets results nearly as good as the Heavy Duty cycles!

Numerous times, they mention the resource usage and cost of operating front-loading washers against the top-loading washers, the scoring really doesn't lie. The reviews of the traditional non-HE top-loading washers are pretty dismal, but entertaining.

Thanks for this, Alexander, hours of fun here!

 

[logixx]

There's also dishwashersinfo.com and oveninfo.com. It's interesting, yes. However, they rate an ASKO dishwasher 10.0, while CR even posted a video on of the ASKOs named "Problem Dishwashers". Hm...

 

[DirectDriveDave]

These machines are WAY too complicated and electronic for my liking...