New Tide Compact Powder

[ronhic]

Did P&G take it one step further and also give it a "sma

Why on earth would you think that?

 

The important things would be:

 

- do I get the same number of washes per pack at the same water hardness/soil level?

- is the performance of the product the same or better?

- is there a scoop included so I know how to dose

- did the price stay the same?

 

I'd suggest that nothing else matters.....

 

[3beltwesty]

At a local walmart they had both Tide and All and others in the fire sale shelf. The odd thing is the fire sale liquid All I bought that was the bigger container was the same exact blend as the 1/2 sized stuff on regular shelf and the same price. In Tide they had both powder and Liquid Tide on the fire sale shelf too, about all gone.

The trust is often to just move the odd items that do not fit in next months "shelf layout". ALL in liquid was in THREE places, one the fire sale area too.

 

[3beltwesty]

25 years ago it use to be that All was only in powder form and was this small box that was heavy. Other soaps like TIDE that then were not concentrated like ALL were in giant boxes and the stuff was all fluffed up.

All was like Post Grape Nuts, a small heavy box. Tide was like Kellogg's Corn Flakes; one was buying air!

 

[launderess]

As Late As The 1990's P&G Offered Tide "Ultra"

As did several other brands of detergent, IIRC.

In fact had an old box of Wisk "Free" ultra that one found at local discount store, even posted about it here.

 

[pinpoint22]

I just saw these hit the shelves in my area. I was at a local Sam's Club and they've already started carrying the compacted powder versions of Gain and Cheer. Tide and the other PG Brand Compact powder versions are on the way...(Era from what I know is only available in liquid) In my standard Top Loading machine, I've always used 1/4 cup of Tide powder to every load, so I don't know how much I'll be using with the new formula; curious to find out.

 

[appnut]

I was at Sam's today.  they had the new Cheer "compacted" powder.  it's an all-formula, intende for HE machines too.  It was $14.84 for a 120 load box.  that slightly less expensive than the 125 load box of Sears UltraPlus in the orange box. 

 

[appnut]

Something else I observed was the powder version was less expensive per load than the comprable liquid.  Hmm, why would anyone want liquids if they're more expensive?

 

[mistereric]

Drats. I have a 180 load box of the previous, non compact version. I love the smell... I hope this isn't too terribly different!

 

[launderess]

Liquid vs Powder

Tide at least, the former has a much better enzyme complex than the later.

Tide liquids contain several enzymes vs the one (protease) for Tide powder.

What the powders do have in their favour is P&G's famous oxygen bleaching system.

As for costs, again Tide liquid goes on sale often enough around here that if one wanted could stock up. In fact the supermarket that had the stuff on sale just several weeks ago, has Tide on sale again.

 

[pinpoint22]

Aside from cost, wouldn't anybody agree that the powders just clean better in general..? I sure think so

 

[launderess]

Well, don't like the "gunking" up of my washing machine's filter/sump area that seems to come from using mainly liquid detergents. However suppose that could be dealt with by using higher wash temps and or doing more powder washes in between.

However for some items find liquid detergent is better than powders. Also when I want or need to wash in cool or cold water, liquids are better, IMHO.

Liquids also leave things that are supposed to be "silky soft" that way without having to use fabric softeners.

Again as I've posted before, have soaked stained table linens totally clean using Tide "free and gentle" liquid and cool to lukewarm water. Using powders to soak means having to first mixing in warm water, then agitating for awhile to make sure hte stuff is well disloved, and even then one finds powder resiude at the bottom of the tub.

Just my two cents.

L.

 

[pinpoint22]

Long story short, Tide specifically states on their site that powders are better for removing ground in soil such as dirt and mud, and liquid is better for removing greasy, oil based stains.

Its true, both powders and liquids can equally have their drawbacks, but it all depends on factors such as fabric type, water temp.. etc.

I've also had people tell me that its just a matter of personal preference and that they both equally do a good job of getting the job done.
In the end, I guess its good to have both liquid and powder on hand, and have the best of both worlds.

 

[volvoguy87]

For me:

100% powder 100% of the time. I've been very pleased with the performance of powdered detergent over the years and the cost savings compared to liquid is substantial. Also, it's easy to recycle or reuse the box (near-dryer lint trash box) but the liquid bottles often aren't accepted in recycling programs. Plus, the liquid bottles and dispensers tend to become a gooey, sticky mess.

I'm curious to see how the new detergent formulations stack up. I hope the rinse out better,
Dave

 

[Pingmeep]

Hate the liquids. The mess potential, and dosing difficulties especially at different temperatures, gunking potential etc. But they can do a better job with less fabric wear, shorter cycles, and less energy on certain stains.

Tide Free HE Coldwater liquid is just awesome at most stains. Even the pro line Tide (non bleach) powder can't beat it for dried in blood that has sat and hardened. There's at least one laundromat owner who uses it as a cleaner for the boot and doors for his front loaders. Sunlight Deep Clean Coldwater is the best dog dander remover I have ever used.

I'd love better powders and am trying to find some OK source for UK Persil Biological powder to test. Right now though the liquids are among the best in my arsenal.

 

[dirtybuck]

On the Lookout

Still nothing here in Springfield, MO on the availability of the new compact powders.

 

[pinpoint22]

Thought I'd throw this out, I guess it also depends on what type of washer you have. From what I'm hearing, the liquids tend to gunk up inside the front loaders. I couldn't relate, since Ive never owned a front loader. Using my top loader it seems to handle both powder and liquid well.

 

[jt1985]

All we have at work right now is the 80 load Lavender powder. It's small compared to the old formula. Don't care for Lavender-scented detergent.

 

[passatdoc]

@Volvoguy

Because of our hard water, I use a 1/4 cup of Borax per load in my FL. I recycle the boxes as next-to-the-dryer lint containers. By the time the Borax box in current use has been emptied, the previous Borax box is full of lint and ready to be tossed.

 

[passatdoc]

@pinpoint22

Agree. The drawers of most FLs passively dispense the detergent by gravity into the outer drum when the drawer is closed (i.e. release is passive....I'm referring to main wash here rather than pre-wash). When the wash cycle starts, water is pumped through the drawer to wash the detergent down into the drum. With a powder, most of the stuff stays in the drawer until the cycle starts, though some of it goes down to the drum by gravity when drawer is closed. But since it's mostly dry inside, the powder doesn't have much chance to cake up and form a clog.

With liquids, there is a potential to form a gooey mess not only in the dispenser but also in the tubing between drawer and drum. In particular, if one uses a delay wash feature and liquid detergent, one is allowing sticky liquid detergent to sit in the drawer and slide down toward the drum without any water to rinse it down. It's like asking for trouble. When visiting in Europe, I've noticed either they use a powder, or a liquid with a dispenser ball (placed on top of the clothing, does not touch clothing or washer parts until cycle begins). I use my washer's delay wash feature quite frequently (e.g. set up a load at 21:00 to run at 5:00 so it's ready for the dryer while I'm up and fixing breakfast the next morning). If I used a concentrated HE liquid, that stuff would be all over the drawer and tubing to the drum for 8 hours, forming a gooey mess.

The fact that some liquid manufacturers in Europe even supply dispenser balls (for free) with their product is almost an admission that residue is an issue when used in FLs. We don't have dispenser balls in the US, but I used to use liquid HE and would add it to one of the small plastic measuring cups (that came with spigot-style liquid bottles) and place the cup on top of the clothes. I have never used the dispenser except for powders, and have used only powders for the last two years or so.

 

[roscoe62]

Speaking of Powders:

I see that the new compact powders are entering the race, does this mean from what little I read that the new Cheer compact powder is HE compatible or is it in the make? Does anybody have any info on these new compact powders? I believe the product had to be marked HE in order to use in the Fl machine, so I'm wondering if Cheer has gone HE in powder form? Should be interesting to see what P&G will do with their powdered detergents in this format?