New Tide Compact Powder

[appnut]

"Interesting about Cheer"

I was at my local grocery store today and stopped to check on the new Cheer detergent.  they still had the smaller size box in the old formula.  the larger size box (similar to the size found at Sams club) was the new conceentrated  version.  It did not mention anywhere on the package anyting about use in HE washers.  I wanted to try a small box out before I invseted in an 80 or 120 load size box.  The HE version at sames was also about a dollar cheaper. 

 

[jt1985]

FreshLock: Liquid versus Powder

I did two loads - one with my Mom's Gain liquid and one with the new Gain compact. From what I've smelled, the FreshLock liquid tended to leave a heavier fragrance compared to the new Gain FreshLock compact.

 

[angus]

We haven't seen any of the new powders in our grocery stores or WalMar, Target,Kmart, etc... So I am confused. Is the new Cheer compact powder a formula that is compatible with all washers or are there separate traditional and HE formulas?

 

[appnut]

Is the new Cheer compact powder a formula that is compatible

Anthony, that's why I posted the latest comment from me, what I aw yestrday at my grocery store.  I have to go to Sams and get gas today, I may pop in the store and check the cheer box again.  I know it had HE symbol on it, but it looked pretty much like the new compact detergent at the grocery store too.  So, it's perplexing.

 

[passatdoc]

@pinpoint22

Note on the HE page that they make very little mention of the fragrance of the Original HE powder version. Maybe this is the one Gain version for people who want cleaning power rather than fragrance. I do know a retired P&G exec who told me that Gain was more for the "ethnic market demographic" whereas Tide was aimed more at the "mainstream market". As you inferred, P&G for the most part markets Gain to those who want fragrance, and Tide to those who want cleaning power. However, the last time Gain HE was reviewed at CR, it was rated a Best Buy because it performed as well as Tide HE at a lower price point. I don't recall if that Best Buy rating was for HE liquid or powder. It was about three or four years ago.

I don't have a great sense of smell, but to me Gain HE powder has a very light scent. The website mentions a lavender variety of HE powder, but I've never seen it for sale. To put it another way, after washing a load of clothes in UK Persil Bio powder, I smell the fragrance more with Persil than with Gain, and I know the Persil is washing out cleanly because I don't get any suds on the door or gasket. I can detect a light but overpowering fragrance with Persil Bio, whereas I can't detect any scent after washing with Gain HE (original) powder.

 

[cehalstead]

another "sighting"

Just found the new formula at Dollar General. Original with bleach Tide powder (18 loads). NOT branded for HE, so I guess both formulas are available. Still looking for smaller boxes of original Tide (no bleach). Just can't bring myself to buy one of those huge boxes until I find out if I like it or not...

 

[pinpoint22]

@passatdoc

Yes, true. I just always had that gut feeling that Gain was aimed more to the market that prefers scent over cleaning power, and I think I do remember Consumer Reports naming Gain HE Powder as a best buy several years ago. I'm almost 100% sure it was the powder, but interesting fact as you said, is that the HE version isn't heavily scented as is the Standard Top Loader version. I never knew that. I suppose that If I want to stay away from the scent, I'll need to get the HE version to use in my Top Loader (TL). Just not sure how well it will work, but I guess it's worth a try. Yet then again, I use Persil in my TL every once in a a while (very expensive but EXCELLENT detergent) for my whites, and it works great. As far as I'm concerned, Persil has a very light sort of smell.. It's not a smell that is about to make you sick as with Gain in my experience.

 

[passatdoc]

Buy a small box of Gain HE and see what happens. I know you're not supposed to use conventional detergent in an HE washer, but I don't know what happens when you use HE detergent in a conventional washer.

 

[Pingmeep]

@passatdoc Generally you need more HE detergent.

Some brands it's a lot more others it's a little over 30% more.

The older Gain HE powder was in the 35% more (normal soiling) 65% more (heavy soiling) for top loaders when I used it in 2009. No idea now.

 

[~sudsshane]

P&G Compact Powder Update..

Stopped by Sams Club to check on the new P&G Compact Powders. Much to my surprise, Sams had ample supply of powdered detergent.

They had available-

Ultra Tide Compact Powder- Regular and HE.
Ultra Tide with Bleach- Compact powder HE - yay!
Ultra Tide with Downy- Compact powder Regular and HE
Ultra Cheer Compact Powder HE
Ultra Gain Compact Powder- Regular and HE
Ultra Gain with Bleach Powder- HE
Ultra Era Compact Powder- Regular and HE

Looks like the "Tide" could be turning back to powder?? Just as much powder selection, as liquid, at this store. I picked up a 95 load box of Tide with Bleach Powder HE in Original Scent for $19.49
Smells just like "original" TWB Powder.. FINALLY!

 

[Pingmeep]

Awesome news.

 

[jerrod6]

Would love to try the Tide with Bleach  He compact powder.  Now, if it rinses clean by the 2nd rinse I would be very happy.

 

[~sudsshane]

TWB Compact Powder HE

low sudsing. Rinsed clean after the first rinse. I'm very pleased with the performance.

 

[appnut]

YAY!!!!  More HE Powders to choose from!!  Thanks Shane.  I hope my Sams will stock at least half that variety. 

 

[pinpoint22]

@Sudsshane

Era now makes Powder?!?!? Since when? I've always remembered Era came in liquid. That's shocking and surprising at the same time....... W O W..!

 

[~sudsshane]

Yup!

Era is now available in powder form.

Google- Era Powder laundry detergent, and you will get a sneak peak.
Btw- for those of you who are not finding these compact detergents in your local stores, Amazon.com is selling them.

 

[pinpoint22]

Just looked it up, can't believe it.. I always wondered why this never came in powder. Now, low and behold... Thanks for the info!

 

[jerrod6]

Went to my local Target today.  They have a clearance sale on all of the Tide powders...every single version of them...so maybe the shelves will soon be restocked with the compact powders.  I sure hope so because I prefer powder to liquid..and if the He is truly He.....little to no suds and clear rinsing...this is a plus.

 

[toploader1984]

yay! i just went to walmart today and found a 120 load box of tide mountain spring powder seemed like it cleaned better than the old powder, rinsed clean too.

 

[pinpoint22]

So what does everybody generally think about these new Compact formulas? How are they working out? Is everybody satisfied with them?

 

[~sudsshane]

I'm very pleased!

I have waited forever for TWB Powder HE to come out and it does a fantastic job. Rinses totally clean, and the fragrance is the same as the original, non- HE formula.

 

[pinpoint22]

I agree.. I think that TWBP is the only MAJOR powder Tide has been missing from the HE lineup. Glad to see it finally out. We've waited long enough..

 

[dirtybuck]

FINALLY!

The "new" Tide was spotted at 2 Walmarts over the weekend.

 

[passatdoc]

usage amounts?

I will be using Gain HE and Tide HE powder for quite some time to come, because I buy in bulk (two pack or four pack) from Amazon. I use 2-3 tablespoons (30-45 ml) in my Frigidaire 2140 FL. I wonder what the dose amount is when using the compact powders? More like 1-2 tbsp (15-30 ml)? Experimentation will be key, I guess, but meanwhile I have several years' supply of Gain and Tide HE powder in my garage that works well and needs to be used up before anything else is purchased.

 

[3beltwesty]

RE compact powders as being new

All was a compact powder for front loaders before a B52 was ever flown, before UHF TV was introduced, before the hulu hoop, before most families had a TV.

All in compact powder goes back to when many folks still used wringer washers, cars were 6 volts, cars had split windshields, folks had party line phones and all passenger planes had props, and some folks had straight eight car motors.

 

[jt1985]

NEW: All & Surf Compact Powders

Sun Products is introducing new compacts for it's All and Surf brands. Spotted them on Target.com[this post was last edited: 3/2/2011-00:22]

http://www.target.com/SURF-Surf-Pow...9043428&rh=&searchBinNameList=subjectbin,pric

 

[launderess]

Well Must Say

Not "compact" but used Tide "Free & Gentle" HE liquid in the Whirlpool portable with quite good results.

Totally no sudsing, just maybe a very dispersed bit of foam. Rinsed quite clean after the spray rinsing, though still set the unit to do a second rinse; but that's me for you.

Methinks P&G is finally seeing the handwriting on the wall, and making their American detergents more like those produced in Europe. I mean it isn't like Proctor and Gamble does not know how to make low or no foaming detergents that will rinse cleanly. UK/EU shelves are full of such products.

 

[cehalstead]

"compact" Tide

I finally found the new Ultra Tide original (no bleach) powder at Target today. Bought a box and have washed two loads. It is low foam (I was hoping for no foam...oh, well, better than it used to be) and has a great smell, if you are a Tide lover. Also saw the new All and Surf concentrated powders that are much cheaper than Tide, but didn't buy any....yet....

 

[jerrod6]

I guess P&G started making em sudsy in the early 80's  because USA folks wanted to see suds....In todays washers  using 20 tablespoons of water in a wash  you can't even see the water let alone suds. Even in the rinses there is not enough water to displace foaming suds.

 

I tried Tide Free and Gentle and it is much better in the rinsing area than previous Tide liquids.... Even PERSIL Gel although I haven't used that  in a few years so perhaps it rinses better now, still in my water conditions I would rather powder for everything except washes for darks and sensitives washed in tap cold temps.

 

[cehalstead]

P&G made their detergents "sudsy" back in the late 40's when first put on the market because housewives were used to their soap flakes making suds...if no suds, not enough flakes in the water. I remember Tide suds coming out of the handle of our Unimatic and rolling up like a jelly roll on the lid. The suds contributed nothing to the cleaning ability of the detergent, as proven by All and Dash. Early detergent suds would not break down in water. I can also remember seeing big blocks of suds floating down the river on Saturdays, when working women did laundry, and on Mondays, when the "stay at home" housewives did their laundry. This was before our community had sewage treatment and the raw sewage simply dumped into the river. Suds were a big problem when synthetic detergents first hit the market.