I just cam across this on sears website, scanning over the interior cutaway pic it seems like there is not alot of room for belt and motor?
Newer Whirlpool Top Load System
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DirectDriveDave
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I think you have to lay the machine down to access those areas.
I am not a fan of this newer design.
I am not a fan of this newer design.
brianl
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The first comment on it
Where the persons quotes "I use it mostly on the cold water cycle to maximize cost effectiveness." All I can say is eww! It's already saving energy by using less water, why wash clothes in cold water? I mean the cost to use warm water for washing cannot be that much more. Maybe she doesn't want her laundry clean and wants their machine to have crud build up in it.
Where the persons quotes "I use it mostly on the cold water cycle to maximize cost effectiveness." All I can say is eww! It's already saving energy by using less water, why wash clothes in cold water? I mean the cost to use warm water for washing cannot be that much more. Maybe she doesn't want her laundry clean and wants their machine to have crud build up in it.
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Mixed Reviews
The Reviews are so mixed you have to wonder if they are posting reviews to the correct machine. LOL!
Malcolm
The Reviews are so mixed you have to wonder if they are posting reviews to the correct machine. LOL!
Malcolm
That's exactly the same design we have here in Brazil since the Brastemp Mondial (World Washer)
There's room enough for the motor and the transmission. Both of them are very simple, with fewer parts.
the motor is reversable, it has a triac to make the reversion and a small cluth (solenoid or thermal) alternates between agitation and spin.
It's theoretically reliable because as it has fewer parts, it's less prone to troubles but I don't know about the quality of those parts.
To fix it, you really have to lay the machine down but, as it's much lighter than older machines, it's not hard to do it. And also, as you're facing the bottom of the machine, you can see clearly the whole motor/transmission. It's much easier to work on them because you can see everything.
There's room enough for the motor and the transmission. Both of them are very simple, with fewer parts.
the motor is reversable, it has a triac to make the reversion and a small cluth (solenoid or thermal) alternates between agitation and spin.
It's theoretically reliable because as it has fewer parts, it's less prone to troubles but I don't know about the quality of those parts.
To fix it, you really have to lay the machine down but, as it's much lighter than older machines, it's not hard to do it. And also, as you're facing the bottom of the machine, you can see clearly the whole motor/transmission. It's much easier to work on them because you can see everything.
pierreandreply4
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Nothing wrong in washing in cold water
there is nothing wrong in washing in cold water as i am pretty sure that in the near future all washers will be cold water wash only and for me a true top load washer should look like this with a dial where we can set the wash time needed and pull the dial to have the washer start and not rely on electroniques.
there is nothing wrong in washing in cold water as i am pretty sure that in the near future all washers will be cold water wash only and for me a true top load washer should look like this with a dial where we can set the wash time needed and pull the dial to have the washer start and not rely on electroniques.
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I have this same exact model washer. I bought it over the July 4th weekend and so far it has been working great! On the large load water level setting, it fills right up to the rim of the tub! If I set the cycle dial to one of the heavy duty settings it does a full deep rinse with several minutes of agitation. The regular and delicate settings does a spray rinse.
I think out of all the top load washing machines on the market today, this is the closest thing to the ones made several years ago with the exception to the dumbed down hot and warm water temps. I find that it is a good affordable washing machine!
I think out of all the top load washing machines on the market today, this is the closest thing to the ones made several years ago with the exception to the dumbed down hot and warm water temps. I find that it is a good affordable washing machine!
Thank You Jbinflorida, with retailers clearing floors and models constantly changing to meet energy requirements it is good to get the facts. Some of the comments on the Sears website are so conflicting, its hard to get correct information. alr
mrb627
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Trick Cycle
I really hated having to use an odd cycle on my LG set to get the machine to perform to my satisfaction. What is wrong with these manufacturers?
Malcolm
I really hated having to use an odd cycle on my LG set to get the machine to perform to my satisfaction. What is wrong with these manufacturers?
Malcolm
can someone post a video of one of these machines on a large load filled with water to the top. all videos i have seen are just small loads struggling to get wet and washed. everyone talks about this but no one has posted this.
thanks
Jon
thanks
Jon
Confusion about posts!
Like Malcolm of Buford,GA, I too find the replies to posts extremely confusing and frustrating. I try my best to copy'n'paste a reference from my intended subject. I do wish Robert would re-design the website's format. If he needs a reference for a terrific graphic designer and/or web host, he can contact VanHove Graphic Communications at vanhove.com. I highly recommend them to anyone, and they have done our business and my brother's business websites to perfection.
Like Malcolm of Buford,GA, I too find the replies to posts extremely confusing and frustrating. I try my best to copy'n'paste a reference from my intended subject. I do wish Robert would re-design the website's format. If he needs a reference for a terrific graphic designer and/or web host, he can contact VanHove Graphic Communications at vanhove.com. I highly recommend them to anyone, and they have done our business and my brother's business websites to perfection.
mrb627
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Sears
I was referring to the reviews on the Sears website. Not aw.org.
Malcolm
I was referring to the reviews on the Sears website. Not aw.org.
Malcolm
I question the value overall of website reviews on appliances. In fact, I have begun to think that in some cases these reviews do the average consumer more harm than good, mostly because many reviewers are not qualified enough in the subject matter to be forming opinions, let alone telling other buyers about them. It is then the job of those people consulting the reviews to be able to sort the morons from the intelligent users, and I know some buyers can't see the difference.
Case in point - one reviewer, when reviewing the fairly basic Admiral 6.5 cu ft. Whirlpool made large capacity dryer on Home Depot's site, said that he'd had it a couple days, and that it was going back to the store in the morning because it took two runs of the cycle to dry his clothes. The reviewer lamented about why a manufacturer would sell such a worthless dryer. As I was reading I thought "wow, venting issues", but then he complained about the cycle being only 30 minutes long and then I realized the user wasn't using the auto dry cycle. I don't understand how someone can use a new appliance for the first time or two, totally ignore major features on a control panel as if they're not there, then feel like they have a properly formed opinion. Those people should not be reporting anything about that appliance, especially not in permanent, written form that others who are looking for insight are going to read.
I have read some of the reviews on the new belt-drive washers and determined that these reviews are sprinkled with some of the same ignorance. I would suggest that when we read these reviews, we keep that in mind.
My view of these machines - If we have had five or six REALLY GOOD top load washer designs in the U.S., then from my perspective, the company that produced two of those probably is not going to turn out something that is a total piece of sheet. IMHO
Gordon
Case in point - one reviewer, when reviewing the fairly basic Admiral 6.5 cu ft. Whirlpool made large capacity dryer on Home Depot's site, said that he'd had it a couple days, and that it was going back to the store in the morning because it took two runs of the cycle to dry his clothes. The reviewer lamented about why a manufacturer would sell such a worthless dryer. As I was reading I thought "wow, venting issues", but then he complained about the cycle being only 30 minutes long and then I realized the user wasn't using the auto dry cycle. I don't understand how someone can use a new appliance for the first time or two, totally ignore major features on a control panel as if they're not there, then feel like they have a properly formed opinion. Those people should not be reporting anything about that appliance, especially not in permanent, written form that others who are looking for insight are going to read.
I have read some of the reviews on the new belt-drive washers and determined that these reviews are sprinkled with some of the same ignorance. I would suggest that when we read these reviews, we keep that in mind.
My view of these machines - If we have had five or six REALLY GOOD top load washer designs in the U.S., then from my perspective, the company that produced two of those probably is not going to turn out something that is a total piece of sheet. IMHO
Gordon
pierreandreply4
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me i do not trust these ratings
me in my own judgement i do not trust these ratings as i base my choice for a washer on these factors
1-number of daily use
2-what i wash and the cycles i use ex: me pet's pet bed
3- Base on the number of cycles and option the washer model has.
me in my own judgement i do not trust these ratings as i base my choice for a washer on these factors
1-number of daily use
2-what i wash and the cycles i use ex: me pet's pet bed
3- Base on the number of cycles and option the washer model has.
arbilab
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Plus, generally dislikers tend to be more vocal on the internet than likers.
It's clear after having perused numerous reviews on Epinions and elsewhere that it's not unusual for people to have no understanding about the mechanics of appliances or how a given machine or feature is intended to be used. Confusion and misunderstanding is common on features such as wrinkle guard and auto-dry, uber-fast spin speeds causing tangling, soaking, on-board water heating on washers and dishwashers, etc. I recall a review on Epinions in which a woman rated her new dishwasher as not-acceptable because it didn't have a rinse-and-dry cycle ... she wanted to hand-wash her dishes then rinse and dry them in the machine, which presumably is what she did with her old unit. She ranted about the manufacturer producing a dishwasher that wastes so much energy and time running a full wash-rinse-dry cycle when she only wants to rinse and dry.
I suspect the Sears washer in the link is a direct drive model, so no need for a belt.
It's the new VMW belt-drive design, not direct-drive.
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