Thank you for sharing, that took a great deal of bravery.
All the best to you.
A big heart-felt WELCOME to the group.
All the best to you.
A big heart-felt WELCOME to the group.
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Great letter, Paulo
I don't think we joined forces with the Brown Shirters. It cost me an arm and a leg to ship my Christmas presents with UPS.
I don't think we joined forces with the Brown Shirters. It cost me an arm and a leg to ship my Christmas presents with UPS.
Damn, Rich,
I am sorry you got so badly burned. The only fitting comment to "I love you" is "Thank you."
Sincerely, genuinely, I hope you are happy now and feeling good with yourself.
I hope this was not your last post...gosh, sometimes even I talk about washing machines.
Keven
I am sorry you got so badly burned. The only fitting comment to "I love you" is "Thank you."
Sincerely, genuinely, I hope you are happy now and feeling good with yourself.
I hope this was not your last post...gosh, sometimes even I talk about washing machines.
Keven
So darn easy
The problem is, I think, we are so conditioned to think that people feel the same way we do. If a guy goes out of his way to be in romantic situations with me, I assume he is interested in me romantically.
This is what the predators - not only bi-sexual - do. They are so very careful to manipulate you, using your desires and expectations. They know exactly what they are doing. When you then tell them what you feel, wham! You get the whole "I never said I love you, I never said this was anything but sex" routine. They make it sound like it is all your fault. And then they get all huffy about it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with just having sex. But you need to be absolutely honest about it - and not saying anything is, in this case, very much manipulating and lying.
If I am interested enough in a man to want to have sex with him (I gave up causal sex for fun sex a long time ago) then I say so. If he fires right back: just sex, nothing else - well, then the ball is in my court. But if he says, yeah - he wants to get to know me too, build a relationship and so on...and it is just bullshit to seduce and use me, then I am entitled to feel hurt, used and angry. Oh, relationships can end because your are incompatible. That is ok. But to lie and pretend as so many men do, well, they are despicable.
Rule of thumb: Men who are married - whether to women or to another man and have sex with the same guy more than once without being absolutely clear about what they want are leading you on. They are predators and will hurt you - then tell you it is your own fault.
The problem is, I think, we are so conditioned to think that people feel the same way we do. If a guy goes out of his way to be in romantic situations with me, I assume he is interested in me romantically.
This is what the predators - not only bi-sexual - do. They are so very careful to manipulate you, using your desires and expectations. They know exactly what they are doing. When you then tell them what you feel, wham! You get the whole "I never said I love you, I never said this was anything but sex" routine. They make it sound like it is all your fault. And then they get all huffy about it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with just having sex. But you need to be absolutely honest about it - and not saying anything is, in this case, very much manipulating and lying.
If I am interested enough in a man to want to have sex with him (I gave up causal sex for fun sex a long time ago) then I say so. If he fires right back: just sex, nothing else - well, then the ball is in my court. But if he says, yeah - he wants to get to know me too, build a relationship and so on...and it is just bullshit to seduce and use me, then I am entitled to feel hurt, used and angry. Oh, relationships can end because your are incompatible. That is ok. But to lie and pretend as so many men do, well, they are despicable.
Rule of thumb: Men who are married - whether to women or to another man and have sex with the same guy more than once without being absolutely clear about what they want are leading you on. They are predators and will hurt you - then tell you it is your own fault.
Being a Gay Man
This is Wishwash again. I'm a Southern Baptist and I still say that two men in love is as beautiful as a man and a woman in love. I think that many people use their religion in order to hurt others they deem "different" than themselves. The nazis would be proud.....God loves us all-PERIOD is what I say.
This is Cosmo, my black cat. He is one of 3 beautiful cats and 3 beautiful dogs we have.
This is Wishwash again. I'm a Southern Baptist and I still say that two men in love is as beautiful as a man and a woman in love. I think that many people use their religion in order to hurt others they deem "different" than themselves. The nazis would be proud.....God loves us all-PERIOD is what I say.
This is Cosmo, my black cat. He is one of 3 beautiful cats and 3 beautiful dogs we have.
How did you know black cats were my favorite. We had one growing up, Solomon. And interestingly black cats crossing your path are good luck in Britain. I'm hoping I'm not wrong about that, both my parents are from England and I'm sure that's where I heard it from.
Cosmo looks like a really independent spirit
I love the way he holds his stance. Very pretty cat! Ok, now we get to see the rest of the family or they will feel left out. And you know what that means...or I bet your furniture does...
I love the way he holds his stance. Very pretty cat! Ok, now we get to see the rest of the family or they will feel left out. And you know what that means...or I bet your furniture does...
Cosmo
So true! Yes, I will have to post the rest of my family. Cosmo was first because he is the only boy. Actually, he acts like the girls. I say good for him! Bless his heart, the girl cats have a tendency to smack him for no good reason. He never smacks back though. He's so loving! I'm hoping that he is a gay cat because of all the great qualities the gay community has about life and the enjoyment of it. Can it be possible do you think?
So true! Yes, I will have to post the rest of my family. Cosmo was first because he is the only boy. Actually, he acts like the girls. I say good for him! Bless his heart, the girl cats have a tendency to smack him for no good reason. He never smacks back though. He's so loving! I'm hoping that he is a gay cat because of all the great qualities the gay community has about life and the enjoyment of it. Can it be possible do you think?
Thank you very much Ronna. You are too kind!
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I would sure hope so....
I think i saw something a while ago about gay horses...
I think i saw something a while ago about gay horses...
Someone has to keep the population in check.
Gay is everywhere and in all species. It is said that it is not "natural"
Response: Are human beings not part of nature?
I swear this is true. A friend's male dog got excited (very obviously excited) when it saw us being intimate. I had to leave. That rocked my world for years.
Gay is everywhere and in all species. It is said that it is not "natural"
Response: Are human beings not part of nature?
I swear this is true. A friend's male dog got excited (very obviously excited) when it saw us being intimate. I had to leave. That rocked my world for years.
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Only you could make the dog happy...
I would think it's true for all spieces
I would think it's true for all spieces
ahem.
So far I have humans ONLY on my resume. and yes it is ONLY one page long. Double spaced. TYVM.
So far I have humans ONLY on my resume. and yes it is ONLY one page long. Double spaced. TYVM.
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Does it matter what dog???? LoL
Humans are only on mine as well, although it talks up bout 1/2 page double spaced...
BTWm Toggles,
Your the best to joke around with
Humans are only on mine as well, although it talks up bout 1/2 page double spaced...
BTWm Toggles,
Your the best to joke around with
poster sized and in 4 point type?
ducks and runs...
No that is mine. Sorry, Steve, getting a bit far-sighted in me old age.
There is clear evidence of homosexuality in all the high order mammals, and several species of birds as well.
The christianists reject this, just as they refused to believe the world went 'round the sun until, what, 1978? or so?
I think it helps to understand two basic principles on which our concept of selection and adaptation are based.
1) "Mother Nature" is only interested in survival of the species, not the individual.
2) There are three types of mutation: 99.999999999% are fatal.
Of the remaining two, most are neutral - neither positive for survival of young to reproduce or negative.
A vanishingly small number of mutations or "sports" are positive. Our species hasn't seen any really positive mutations in several tens of thousands of years. That usually means something, and it is not good...
But I digress.
If we accept that homosexuality exists in all high order mammals, then the question arises: What for? The answer: For whatever reason, it permits the young of the species to better survive long enough to reproduce.
In some species (L.lupus) our function is clear: We are the hunters, the babysitters, the favorite uncle who gives mom a day off from the monsters.
In our species, I don't think it is a coincidence that so many scientific and military "greats" were gay. Or teachers, doctors and vets.
Any other ideas?
(Besides, somebody has to have fashion sense.)
ducks and runs...
No that is mine. Sorry, Steve, getting a bit far-sighted in me old age.
There is clear evidence of homosexuality in all the high order mammals, and several species of birds as well.
The christianists reject this, just as they refused to believe the world went 'round the sun until, what, 1978? or so?
I think it helps to understand two basic principles on which our concept of selection and adaptation are based.
1) "Mother Nature" is only interested in survival of the species, not the individual.
2) There are three types of mutation: 99.999999999% are fatal.
Of the remaining two, most are neutral - neither positive for survival of young to reproduce or negative.
A vanishingly small number of mutations or "sports" are positive. Our species hasn't seen any really positive mutations in several tens of thousands of years. That usually means something, and it is not good...
But I digress.
If we accept that homosexuality exists in all high order mammals, then the question arises: What for? The answer: For whatever reason, it permits the young of the species to better survive long enough to reproduce.
In some species (L.lupus) our function is clear: We are the hunters, the babysitters, the favorite uncle who gives mom a day off from the monsters.
In our species, I don't think it is a coincidence that so many scientific and military "greats" were gay. Or teachers, doctors and vets.
Any other ideas?
(Besides, somebody has to have fashion sense.)
They say lefties like me see the world differently and that
One has to learn to have a tough skin and "Take it like a man"
In all seriousness, I offend without meaning to, so I have to allow myself to be (lovingly) picked-on and abused.
It's a screen persona, darlings. There IS a real live decent person somewhere underneath all that!
Now with all due respect, I'm gonna quit posting till
Monday to allow others to get a word in edge-wise! CIAO for now!
One has to learn to have a tough skin and "Take it like a man"
In all seriousness, I offend without meaning to, so I have to allow myself to be (lovingly) picked-on and abused.
It's a screen persona, darlings. There IS a real live decent person somewhere underneath all that!
Now with all due respect, I'm gonna quit posting till
Monday to allow others to get a word in edge-wise! CIAO for now!
See ya Monday Toggles.
oh thank goodness she's gone for a bit, did you see her hair? I suppose there's not much more she can do with it poor thing. Bad hair and a face like the back end of a bus, I'd just die if that was me.
oh thank goodness she's gone for a bit, did you see her hair? I suppose there's not much more she can do with it poor thing. Bad hair and a face like the back end of a bus, I'd just die if that was me.
When I took my gen. psychology class over the summer, and when we discussed homosexuality, the teacher did bring up that it does exist in higher order mammals. He said that about 10% of humans are homosexual, and that same number also applies to mammals as well. It is natural normal behavior. My psych book even has a photo of 2 gay penguins from this one zoo.
He jokingly said it is nature's way of population control
I ended up doing my term paper on sexual orientation and acing it.
He jokingly said it is nature's way of population control
I ended up doing my term paper on sexual orientation and acing it.
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Pete!
Funniest. Post. Ever.
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Funniest. Post. Ever.
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