joeypete
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Not sure if anyone has seen this. Great video a guy made after getting the base model TL's. These guys are very informed. Impressive.
Nice SQ TL Overview Video
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glomain
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JOEY
as jerry reed used 2 say gosh-o-mighty! he has WAY 2 much time on his hands. LMAO
as jerry reed used 2 say gosh-o-mighty! he has WAY 2 much time on his hands. LMAO
jerrod6
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So these are marked He and the guys said to use half the amount of detergent. I thought these machines filled with a bit more water than a front loader. If you use half the amount listed on the He detergent directions this is enough detergent to get the clothes clean?
mamapinky
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I have fairly new SQ TL. my manual says to use HE detergent. At first I thought they ment for the eco cycle, but no its ment for all cycles by what my SQ seller says...I don't understand why, and as for using half a dose of the HE that makes no sense to me. Cheryl
There's no way I'd use a half dose of detergent in a machine that fills the tub full, regardless of HE formula or not. High-efficiency detergents are designed not to over-suds in low water settings, and to rinse well in low water, but their cleaning concentration isn't changed. Detergent use technically IS halved in an HE machine because if used right, you're cleaning around twice the capacity of clothes than what most any traditional top-loader can handle.
For example, a full load piled loosely to the top of the basket in the 4.8 c.ft Cabrio translates to two full loads filled to the top of the 3.6 c.ft Whirlpool agitator washer, with a full scoop of detergent in both. In the Bravos, that would be plenty for that one large load, but would be two full scoops in the Whirlpool to get the same cleaning, despite the load being split. It's a tradeoff; with the traditional TL you're getting quicker wash times, but at the cost of lower capacity, more water, and the proper dose of detergent to overcome dilution from said water, where the HE machine takes more time but with less water, greater capacity, and the same amount of detergent for around twice the capacity.
For example, a full load piled loosely to the top of the basket in the 4.8 c.ft Cabrio translates to two full loads filled to the top of the 3.6 c.ft Whirlpool agitator washer, with a full scoop of detergent in both. In the Bravos, that would be plenty for that one large load, but would be two full scoops in the Whirlpool to get the same cleaning, despite the load being split. It's a tradeoff; with the traditional TL you're getting quicker wash times, but at the cost of lower capacity, more water, and the proper dose of detergent to overcome dilution from said water, where the HE machine takes more time but with less water, greater capacity, and the same amount of detergent for around twice the capacity.
joeypete
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Yeah I guess it depends on the detergent too. I know in my Filter Flo with using the powder Cheer He, I could never use a full scoop or I'd have a suds apocalypse. lol . The cup goes up to line 5 and I use line 2 for most loads and line 3 if I pack it really full. Granted my machine tub is smaller than the SQ, but still.
mamapinky
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I can't tell you the people that think HE detergent is more concentrated than non HE..when in fact its just formulated to be lower sudsing. Cheryl
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Yeah....that's all well and true if you're using the mass produced Cheer and Tide.
But the Method and 7th Generation and Mrs. Myers stuff is ultra concentrated, so a tablespoon is usually all you need in a front loader, like I do.
Or when I was using top loaders, I'd fill their little caps 3/4 way.
It was deceiving in the old WP DD TL, because it would look like no soap at all. But the water was very slippery when touched. And everything came out clean.
Yeah....that's all well and true if you're using the mass produced Cheer and Tide.
But the Method and 7th Generation and Mrs. Myers stuff is ultra concentrated, so a tablespoon is usually all you need in a front loader, like I do.
Or when I was using top loaders, I'd fill their little caps 3/4 way.
It was deceiving in the old WP DD TL, because it would look like no soap at all. But the water was very slippery when touched. And everything came out clean.
mrb627
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Well...
What a mess...
Full HOT RINSE?
Screw removed from lint filter?
Extra Rinse with FS?
Malcolm
What a mess...
Full HOT RINSE?
Screw removed from lint filter?
Extra Rinse with FS?
Malcolm
mamapinky
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LOL...Hell I don't even get warm rinse.
These guys have no clue what they are talking about. Dosage of detergents and softener, no wonder people bitch that clothes don't come clean. And they encourage the use of Extra Rinse when this washer is a water pig to begin with. The "hot rinse" comment I thought was telling since he just said that all rinses are cold and the guy this is being explained to, didn't challenge him on it. I know I would have. That would have been my red flag and I would have told him he was full of it. The dryer lint filter isn't screwed in, where did the screw go?! And I hope that the manufacturer sees this video and calls that dealer and says, hey these guys have no clue!
stricklybojack
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We went with the FL SQ's..
and I realize these guys are mistaken on a couple of issues...
but weirdly these TL SQ's tug at my heart strings. I think I get why they remain so popular despite all the "intelligent" reasons to go FL. What if you just let yourself want, and perhaps own, what really does it for you...reasoning be damned!
I used to joke, "well I've run the numbers, calculated the relevant projections, discounted all known liabilities...in short, I love you."
If I had the room, I'd have these (or vintage equivalent) and a FL machine.
We went with the FL SQ's..
and I realize these guys are mistaken on a couple of issues...
but weirdly these TL SQ's tug at my heart strings. I think I get why they remain so popular despite all the "intelligent" reasons to go FL. What if you just let yourself want, and perhaps own, what really does it for you...reasoning be damned!
I used to joke, "well I've run the numbers, calculated the relevant projections, discounted all known liabilities...in short, I love you."
If I had the room, I'd have these (or vintage equivalent) and a FL machine.
jerrod6
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So the blurb P&G used to spout about their Tide He formulas being formulated to hold dirt in suspension in low amounts of water better than their regular detergents is not true then?
18 years ago you could use the same detergent in a top and front loader - my grandmother did it - heck even I did it when I had my own front loader. There were instructions with different dosages for each. Everything got clean regardless of what type of machine you had. This was before P&G introduced high sudsing detergents like the bleach alternatives. I quickly learned to avoid this mess because of the suds it created in my westinghouse front loader.
So I guess there is no need for an HE detergent. Just a detergent that is low sudsing and well rinsing?
18 years ago you could use the same detergent in a top and front loader - my grandmother did it - heck even I did it when I had my own front loader. There were instructions with different dosages for each. Everything got clean regardless of what type of machine you had. This was before P&G introduced high sudsing detergents like the bleach alternatives. I quickly learned to avoid this mess because of the suds it created in my westinghouse front loader.
So I guess there is no need for an HE detergent. Just a detergent that is low sudsing and well rinsing?
joeypete
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Oh geez!
You guys! Lol I thought it was nice in terms of going over the cycles and such on the machine hahaha. I liked it :-/
You guys! Lol I thought it was nice in terms of going over the cycles and such on the machine hahaha. I liked it :-/
