There were two bids placed and officially accepted by ebay--our original one and our top bid and there was nothing in the email I received from ebay last night after I went to bed except that the seller had withdrawn the item from auction. The seller has other items for sale, along with his or her integrity. If I cared, I would report him or her to ebay, but they don't have a lot of integrity either.[this post was last edited: 12/3/2011-14:06]
Norge Combo for sale on ebay
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According to ebay rules and procedures, the seller does not know the maximum bid any buyer places. The deal was made offline.
On the other hand, maybe the seller realized that the reason that the machine is still in the basement is that remodeling made it impossible to remove. Let's hope.
On the other hand, maybe the seller realized that the reason that the machine is still in the basement is that remodeling made it impossible to remove. Let's hope.
twintubdexter
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"frankly my dear"...
I think anyone who would pay $1000+ for that machine must have money to burn...although I've spent more on collectibles that my friends think aren't worth a dollar. I do like the seller's description of that old combo where he states that it's classified as "antique" which means it's a 1911 model or earlier.
I think anyone who would pay $1000+ for that machine must have money to burn...although I've spent more on collectibles that my friends think aren't worth a dollar. I do like the seller's description of that old combo where he states that it's classified as "antique" which means it's a 1911 model or earlier.
another one scared off?
It's also "possible" that someone Emailed the seller, and stated how rare and unusual the piece was, and they know of a lot of interest in it, and that they personally don't want it, and how they hope it goes to a good home type thing. Seller hears of this, and withdraws the item, only to post later at BIN of $5000.00 or so....
It's happened before......
It's also "possible" that someone Emailed the seller, and stated how rare and unusual the piece was, and they know of a lot of interest in it, and that they personally don't want it, and how they hope it goes to a good home type thing. Seller hears of this, and withdraws the item, only to post later at BIN of $5000.00 or so....
It's happened before......
Not to rant and rave, but this reminds me somewhat of what happened a while back with a near perfect Kenmore round bolt-down automatic that appeared from Rhode Island.
I started corresponding with the seller, as she only lived approximately 3 minutes away from me. As we started to correspond, my suspicion is that other club members also e-mailed her with the usual "Oh, my God, that's fabulous." "It's extremely rare." "It's worth a fortune." Etc. Etc.
Yes, it was rare and yes, it was in mint condition, but those people are in another part of the country. Are they going to pay the high price to ship it? No. Before I knew it, the woman wanted an astronomical figure for the machine and basically told me to stop emailing her and that I was harassing her, even though I was simply trying to explain what the machine was worth to me and the fact that I could be at her front door in 3 minutes with cash and a neighbor who was willing to help me haul it out of the basement.
Sometimes people have to learn "The art of the deal."
Thanks for letting me rant.
Ron
I started corresponding with the seller, as she only lived approximately 3 minutes away from me. As we started to correspond, my suspicion is that other club members also e-mailed her with the usual "Oh, my God, that's fabulous." "It's extremely rare." "It's worth a fortune." Etc. Etc.
Yes, it was rare and yes, it was in mint condition, but those people are in another part of the country. Are they going to pay the high price to ship it? No. Before I knew it, the woman wanted an astronomical figure for the machine and basically told me to stop emailing her and that I was harassing her, even though I was simply trying to explain what the machine was worth to me and the fact that I could be at her front door in 3 minutes with cash and a neighbor who was willing to help me haul it out of the basement.
Sometimes people have to learn "The art of the deal."
Thanks for letting me rant.
Ron
As with anything that's rare, it's not surprising that this happened. Ebay has never been fair and never will be. This, like many other collector groups have members that are willing to throw cash at something and others that sit and moan that everything is only worth $50. It always boils down to supply and demand or luck with a rare item.
launderess
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norgeway
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HER I AM!!!
I never knew such a thing existed!! I want to come see it whoever gets it!!!!
I never knew such a thing existed!! I want to come see it whoever gets it!!!!
Laundress,
I don't think most people know how to price a piece of crap that's been sitting around their homes. The correct thing would be a Buy it Now or best offer. They'd likely put some high buy it now price that would set off a few people as being crazy, etc. I agree that an auction should set the price, but ebay has never worked like a real auction. I have long since given up on bidding during an auction. Sniping is easier and less stressful.
If I was that seller and someone waved a pile of cash at me for an appliance that I inherited with my house, I think I would have sold it out from under ebay also. For better or worse, ebay offers better exposure than any site I can think of.
I don't think most people know how to price a piece of crap that's been sitting around their homes. The correct thing would be a Buy it Now or best offer. They'd likely put some high buy it now price that would set off a few people as being crazy, etc. I agree that an auction should set the price, but ebay has never worked like a real auction. I have long since given up on bidding during an auction. Sniping is easier and less stressful.
If I was that seller and someone waved a pile of cash at me for an appliance that I inherited with my house, I think I would have sold it out from under ebay also. For better or worse, ebay offers better exposure than any site I can think of.
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I know the workings of those machines and could take it apart and put it together with my eyes closed because my father was in the Norge Laundry and cleaning Village business for many years and the Coin Op drycleaning machine was based on that combo. My question is I know they made a gas version of it> Does anyone know where the gas burner was located?
Norge Dry Cleaning Village!
We had one near us in Westchester County opened in 1962. It didnt catch on real big so in 1964 new owners took over and they they made it a regular dry cleaners and it was no longer self service.
The new owners also installed 6 frigidaire washers with the 18 minute wash cycle.
I used to like hanging out their. And my family became friendly with the owners.
So it played a big part in my life.
I remember the norge cleaning machines had a cleaning cycle that lasted 15 to 20 minutes and would go into a spin like a regular FL machine. Than it would do the dry phase for about 50 minutes. I could see the simularity to this combo!
Peter
We had one near us in Westchester County opened in 1962. It didnt catch on real big so in 1964 new owners took over and they they made it a regular dry cleaners and it was no longer self service.
The new owners also installed 6 frigidaire washers with the 18 minute wash cycle.
I used to like hanging out their. And my family became friendly with the owners.
So it played a big part in my life.
I remember the norge cleaning machines had a cleaning cycle that lasted 15 to 20 minutes and would go into a spin like a regular FL machine. Than it would do the dry phase for about 50 minutes. I could see the simularity to this combo!
Peter
OMG
I would never expect the Norge Combo to wash & dry 18 BATH towels, especially not today's HUGE ones! My machine is 4.5 CuFt and cannot handle that! I don't wash more than 6 pair of jeans at once either!
All old Norge front-load machines did a spray-tumble wash/dryclean from a whistle-shaped tube on the inside of the door opening. The gas burner on the machine was at the top-our friend had a '56 Norge gas dryer.
"Launderess(Laundress), the word is "furor"! LOL
Speed Queen Combos were like Easy's, NOT Hotpoint, which was a re-badged GE. I never saw any of those, but had seen someone's literature.
The old Norge dryers did have a great big drum for "drop" efficiency, and dried very quickly because of the high-output fan. The later 50's ones also had "Stop-n-Dry" to use the rack you could fit into the drum without tumble! They also had hair-dryer attachments that covered the door-opening!
There was a "Norge self-service" drycleaner in Deer Park years ago, next-town-over from mine. There was a self-serve Whirlpool Poly Clean Drycleaner in Brightwaters. I also used one at a center in Long Beach MANY years ago!
I would never expect the Norge Combo to wash & dry 18 BATH towels, especially not today's HUGE ones! My machine is 4.5 CuFt and cannot handle that! I don't wash more than 6 pair of jeans at once either!
All old Norge front-load machines did a spray-tumble wash/dryclean from a whistle-shaped tube on the inside of the door opening. The gas burner on the machine was at the top-our friend had a '56 Norge gas dryer.
"Launderess(Laundress), the word is "furor"! LOL
Speed Queen Combos were like Easy's, NOT Hotpoint, which was a re-badged GE. I never saw any of those, but had seen someone's literature.
The old Norge dryers did have a great big drum for "drop" efficiency, and dried very quickly because of the high-output fan. The later 50's ones also had "Stop-n-Dry" to use the rack you could fit into the drum without tumble! They also had hair-dryer attachments that covered the door-opening!
There was a "Norge self-service" drycleaner in Deer Park years ago, next-town-over from mine. There was a self-serve Whirlpool Poly Clean Drycleaner in Brightwaters. I also used one at a center in Long Beach MANY years ago!
SPEED QUEEN COMBS
Were not at all related to Easys, I have one of both. The SQC was a redesigned version of the very short lived HP combo. Later HP combos were exactly the same as GEs combos.
Were not at all related to Easys, I have one of both. The SQC was a redesigned version of the very short lived HP combo. Later HP combos were exactly the same as GEs combos.
John is correct, the Hotpoint designed combo was nothing like the GE combo. While reading the manuals a couple of years ago when John and Smitty were here for New Years, we marveled at how almost identical engineering was used from the early Hotpoint in the Speed Queen combo. All the literature I have for the Hotpoint machine puts it around 1957 but we've yet to see one or anyone who has. The service literature proves it must have been built - pictures - but still...
I have all this service and some sales lit, including Easy that was a breed all it's own... I need to do some scanning!
I have all this service and some sales lit, including Easy that was a breed all it's own... I need to do some scanning!
Scanning!
Please Greg scan when you can.
Thanks,
Peter
Please Greg scan when you can.
Thanks,
Peter
Years ago, a member posted that his father was affiliated with Hotpoint and all of the combos sold in the first year of production were recalled because of a "fire hazard" by HP. He reported that owners hated to give up their machines. We figure that there was a patent infringement lawsuit from Bendix and it was cheaper for HP to destroy the machines than pay out. In looking at the cycle chart of the machine, it did not spin until the end of the cycle, as I remember and the SQ combo only gave one brief spin after the first rinse and then the final spin, IIRC. Like so many other combos, the HP was rich in buttons and dials on the control panel, but they were the proverbial sock in the shorts when it came to the machinery underneath. They just did not have what Bendix had because they could not.
I need to do some scanning!
Sounds like a fun New Years tradition!
Sounds like a fun New Years tradition!
mickeyd
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"Easy that was a breed all its own."
No surprize--that !-- with their unique "precision engineering."
How great it would be to read about the Easy Combo.
No surprize--that !-- with their unique "precision engineering."
How great it would be to read about the Easy Combo.
Thanks Guys!
I appreciate any illuminating feedback on my questions, you guys are the best! Yes, Mr. Gansky, please do scan some sales literature for those combos! They are so elusive, because I never saw many of them. Thanks Tom for the clarification about the Easy and SQ's! I have SO MANY sales brochures for US and foreign appliances, I am going to start having some new reading material again! I have commercial machines' sales brochures, and spec-books from some brands, I know they are collectors dreams! Sadly, I cannot scan any of them-no scanner(or other stuff most people have).
Jason
I appreciate any illuminating feedback on my questions, you guys are the best! Yes, Mr. Gansky, please do scan some sales literature for those combos! They are so elusive, because I never saw many of them. Thanks Tom for the clarification about the Easy and SQ's! I have SO MANY sales brochures for US and foreign appliances, I am going to start having some new reading material again! I have commercial machines' sales brochures, and spec-books from some brands, I know they are collectors dreams! Sadly, I cannot scan any of them-no scanner(or other stuff most people have).
Jason
coolairguy
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On the Norge combo,I cant visualize the gas burner up on the top like it was on the dryer because the combo had 2 concrete blocks on the top of the tank for balance.I even bought a 1951 to 1961 Norge parts and service manual but it didn't have the combo in the book. Also the electric was a condensing dryer so it must have been a completely different design.
More than probably so.
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