November Which 2012

[paulinroyton]

Hi Guys

I have just received my Novomber Which magazine. They have tested 10 new washing machine and one is a rare hot fill machine. You can read the report from the 29th November.

Cant wait to read about this hot fill machine.

Paul.

 

[logixx]

I think a hot fill is again becoming rather popular these days with all those solar panels and stuff - especially for dishwashers. Many manufacturers are listing energy consumption for a hot-fill cycle already on the product page online.

 

[servisslimline]

Hot fill

i think your right that its becoming more popular, my current bosch dw has hot fill but my old Tricity Bendix DH090 was cold fill, as for the hot fill washer, i do remember reading that LG have released a machine with hot fill so it could be that
phil

 

[robliverpool]

I personally think that the cold fill washing machines are and never have been eco friendly. I think it was a way the companies could save and extra few quid on the build of the machines, if they saved 3 pound on a water valve (dunno how much they cost to make) and they produce a million machines its doesnt take a genius to work out how much the big companies have saved.

Since cold fill machine have been out the past ten years I have seen machine after machine with mouldy door seals gunked up soap drawer dispensers.

I have a solar panel on my roof producing hot water and it could be used i the washer and save having to heat the water from cold. I personally think they should have a choice of machines and let us the consumer choose for ourselves.

Rant over lol I dont wanna spark off a war

 

[optima]

Cold fill

Can't remember the last time i needed to clean the soap dispenser out.

 

[servisslimline]

cold fill

must say hot fill does definitely keep detergent drawers clean, all the machines ive owned have been hot fill apart from the beko and they've stayed clean, but when i had the beko, about every 2-3 washes id look in the drawer and find black mould accumulating on it, not to mention when i first got it after it being delivered for me to look after, the drawer was completely covered in mould, there was hardly a hint of the white plastic showing, despite the owner using 60c washes!, bring hot fill back for gods sake!!, cold fill is discusting

 

[aegokocarat]

the reason cold fil was introduced, was to releave or preven strain on your boiler and pipes, no idea if thats true.

 

[optima]

It has nothing to do with any strain on hot water systems, it's that modern machines use less water. I still think people should have the choice to choose between hot & cold or cold fill only washers. People have different ways of heating hot water, ie range cookers that heat the water & the central heating that have plenty of hot water to use up.

 

[paulinroyton]

Hot Fill Machines

I have been using my Hotpoint 1509 top loader. The machine is hot and cold fill, and hot fill when you use the temperature on hot. This saves a lot of time as the machine does not have to heat up much to complete the wash.

Can you imagine use cold water on a large load it would take all day to heat up. We have a good hot water system and always plenty of hot water.

Cant wait until Which test this new hot fill machine. I would love to know who makes this machine.

Paul

 

[servisslimline]

who makes it

ive been reading up on energy efficient machines and found that LG have discontinued their hot fill machine and i think the only other possibility is the new ISE machine
phil

 

[paulinroyton]

Hot Fill Machines

http://www.iseappliances.co.uk/products/washing-machines/eco-washing-machine.htm

 

[paulinroyton]

WhiteGoods Web Site

http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/New+Appliances/ISE+Appliances/ISE+W288eco+Washing+Machine.html

 

[foraloysius]

A hotfill machine wouldn't work for me. My combo central heating boiler/water heater (flow through) takes a long time to get the water up to an acceptable temperature. The washing machine would be filled long before the warm water reaches it.

 

[optima]

My Ariston Combination Boiler is just about directly above my washer in the bathroom just about a 3 mtr pipe run so my Hotpoint WM22 hot & cold fill washer is ideal plus it has the advantage of the classic no heater action Economy wash button, great for using on dark coloured clothing.

 

[ozzie908]

I'm with Foraloysius

My combi boiler is upstairs and I have to waste at least 8 litres of water before it reaches the tap so I will stick with cold fill although my washer has the choice it has both valves fitted and you select in the programming if you want to use hot or not. My washer also has 2 heaters in it so does not take long to get to temp.Along with only using cold I have yet to clean the soap drawer as never see any mould build up nor do I have any mould on the door seal.

Austin

 

[aegokocarat]

Im in agreence with Ozzie908 and Foraloysius, our last Hot+cold fill machine took ages to wash, which doesnt make sense because it was hot+cold fill, it would take 2-3 hours max to wash, our cold fill machines are quicker plus we havent had any trouble with the hot water running out.
Each to thier own imo
Tom

 

[aquacycle]

In my house, gas seems to be more expensive than electric. I'd much rather have a cold fill only machine that heats itself and doesn't take any hot water off the boiler.

Also, lets not forget the old "biological" cycles on Servis washing machines that would fill with cold water and heat up gradually, allowing the bio detergent to work it's magic on stains.

 

[chris74]

These iSe machines...

...are quite nice saying this just by the look of 'em...

 

[aquacycle]

These iSe machines are quite nice...

..they should be for nearly £1000!