sudsmaster
Well-known member
Not quite. The one I used in Japan wasn't any bigger than a coffee cup warmer, but it was able to bring a cup of water to a boil in a minute or two.
NuWave Induction Cooktop
- Thread starter mrb627
- Start date
Help Support :
No it won't wreck it that quickly but, a lot of UK and Irish people have a habit of switching the isolating switch off on their oven and hob immediately after using it. It definitely doesn't help prolonging the life of an induction hob or even a microwave to do that.
The wiring rules here require a switch on the wall to isolate the oven or cook top for safety. It's proven a bit problematic with modern appliances that freshly on cooling fans.
It's also extended now to require isolator switches for all built-in appliances or appliances with no easily reached plug.
So your kitchen now has switches for the dishwasher, extractor hood, fridge, microwave etc etc etc
The wiring rules here require a switch on the wall to isolate the oven or cook top for safety. It's proven a bit problematic with modern appliances that freshly on cooling fans.
It's also extended now to require isolator switches for all built-in appliances or appliances with no easily reached plug.
So your kitchen now has switches for the dishwasher, extractor hood, fridge, microwave etc etc etc
I sort of like that idea about the switches. I'd certainly use them in the kitchen for the appliance plug ins. I don't like leaving small appliances plugged in even when they're supposedly "off" . Even the dishwasher.
Our regulations tend to go quite OCD about isolation switches and stuff like that:
To give you a flavour of them:
Fixed appliances : isolation switches located near by.
Built-in : isolation switches if no easily accessible socket outlet is not present (and in a near by cupboard isn't acceptable anymore)
Socket outlets / plugs:
1) All outlets are shuttered (and have been since the 1940s)
2) There's no such thing as a 2-pin outlet (and hasn't been since the 1940s)
3) There's no such thing as a 2-pin plug (the ground pin's required to open the shutters)
4) All plugs carry a fuse (usually rated 3amp or 13amp) to protect the cable of the appliance.
5) The live and neutral pins are partially sheathed, so you cannot touch them when inserting a plug.
6) Most outlets have a small switch next to them, so you can shut off an appliance without unplugging it. This is kind of handy more than a specific safety feature. The idea is that it encourages people to isolate things.
7) All socket outlets are on RCD (GFCI) circuits since the late 70s in Ireland and since more recently in the UK.
Bathrooms:
No light switches or normal electrical outlets to be located in them at all!
Switches have to go outside the room in the hallway or operated via a pull cord on the ceiling.
All bathroom circuits (in Irish regs anyway) now have to be on RCD (GFCI)
Special shaver sockets that accept only a shaver plug (2 pin only found on shavers) which is connected via an isolating transformer and will only supply about 0.5A. So it's only suitable for toothbrushes/shavers.
Bathroom fans also have to have a lockable 3-pole switch which cuts the two lives (one for power, one for switching and the neutral)
....
The regs are pretty tight on a lot of those kinds of issues but they're absolutely fixated on isolating things locally.
That's an outlet:
To give you a flavour of them:
Fixed appliances : isolation switches located near by.
Built-in : isolation switches if no easily accessible socket outlet is not present (and in a near by cupboard isn't acceptable anymore)
Socket outlets / plugs:
1) All outlets are shuttered (and have been since the 1940s)
2) There's no such thing as a 2-pin outlet (and hasn't been since the 1940s)
3) There's no such thing as a 2-pin plug (the ground pin's required to open the shutters)
4) All plugs carry a fuse (usually rated 3amp or 13amp) to protect the cable of the appliance.
5) The live and neutral pins are partially sheathed, so you cannot touch them when inserting a plug.
6) Most outlets have a small switch next to them, so you can shut off an appliance without unplugging it. This is kind of handy more than a specific safety feature. The idea is that it encourages people to isolate things.
7) All socket outlets are on RCD (GFCI) circuits since the late 70s in Ireland and since more recently in the UK.
Bathrooms:
No light switches or normal electrical outlets to be located in them at all!
Switches have to go outside the room in the hallway or operated via a pull cord on the ceiling.
All bathroom circuits (in Irish regs anyway) now have to be on RCD (GFCI)
Special shaver sockets that accept only a shaver plug (2 pin only found on shavers) which is connected via an isolating transformer and will only supply about 0.5A. So it's only suitable for toothbrushes/shavers.
Bathroom fans also have to have a lockable 3-pole switch which cuts the two lives (one for power, one for switching and the neutral)
....
The regs are pretty tight on a lot of those kinds of issues but they're absolutely fixated on isolating things locally.
That's an outlet:
Induction is very popular in commercial kitchens. Chefs love the instant response and building engineers and architects love the great reduction in waste heat when induction is used. I remember seeing a Westinghouse induction cooktop demonstrated at a 1971 home show in Atlanta, but then years and decades went by with no mention of it. Induction is very popular in Europe. Fagor is one of the big manufacturers of this cooking technology. Maybe induction became popular much quicker in Europe because of those horrible cast iron disc elements they were using while we had more responsive sealed rod elements.
@tomturbomatic
I think it depends on the part of Europe you're talking about.
In Ireland and the UK, the market was dominated by companies like Creda, Tricity, Belling and a few others all of which produced cooking appliances with sealed-rod coil elements similar to those used on US stoves.
Your average cooking appliance here had those open elements with the drip tray underneath. They were kind of messy from a cleaning perspective as the cook top had to be lifted up to clean under them much like the way you'd lift a car hood or something. I remember my grandmother had a Creda Carefree cooker that took quite a bit of cleaning if anything had boiled over. However, they were a LOT more responsive than sold plates.
Those types of hobs / cooktops were generally replaced by ceramic (glass top) with radiant element coils under them or halogen bulbs which gave you instant heat. They weren't nearly as controllable as induction or gas, but they were pretty good and easy to clean compared to open rings.
The solid hob cookers that were on the market here tended to be continental European origin more so than UK manufacturers (although they did produce a few).
I would suspect the main driving force behind induction was that De Dietrich pretty much drove it. De Dietrich (the original company) is a huge French industrial outfit that has been in operation since 1684! They had a lot of technical expertise in the iron industry and induction furnaces for massive industrial use.
During the 1970s, De Dietrich developed some of the first induction cooktops and launched them in France in 1977. They also introduced the pyroclean oven to European markets i.e. heating the oven to extreme temperatures to burn off dirt in low oxygen with the doors locked.
Since then De Dietrich appliances became part of Fagor/Brandt, but are licensed to use the De Dietrich name. The De Dietrich group's core business is process systems of industrial applications so they ditched their appliances division and their rail division e.g. they were part of the consortium that built the Eurostar Trains and some of the TGV versions. That unit's now known as Alstom DDF.
I would suspect it was the presence of De Dietrich that drove earlier adoption of induction cooking here though, even if it was initially very expensive and high end.
It's only become relatively mainstream and affordable in the last 10 year or so. If you go back further, there were only really a few high end manufactures doing induction and they were VERY expensive appliances relative to normal cooktops.
I think it depends on the part of Europe you're talking about.
In Ireland and the UK, the market was dominated by companies like Creda, Tricity, Belling and a few others all of which produced cooking appliances with sealed-rod coil elements similar to those used on US stoves.
Your average cooking appliance here had those open elements with the drip tray underneath. They were kind of messy from a cleaning perspective as the cook top had to be lifted up to clean under them much like the way you'd lift a car hood or something. I remember my grandmother had a Creda Carefree cooker that took quite a bit of cleaning if anything had boiled over. However, they were a LOT more responsive than sold plates.
Those types of hobs / cooktops were generally replaced by ceramic (glass top) with radiant element coils under them or halogen bulbs which gave you instant heat. They weren't nearly as controllable as induction or gas, but they were pretty good and easy to clean compared to open rings.
The solid hob cookers that were on the market here tended to be continental European origin more so than UK manufacturers (although they did produce a few).
I would suspect the main driving force behind induction was that De Dietrich pretty much drove it. De Dietrich (the original company) is a huge French industrial outfit that has been in operation since 1684! They had a lot of technical expertise in the iron industry and induction furnaces for massive industrial use.
During the 1970s, De Dietrich developed some of the first induction cooktops and launched them in France in 1977. They also introduced the pyroclean oven to European markets i.e. heating the oven to extreme temperatures to burn off dirt in low oxygen with the doors locked.
Since then De Dietrich appliances became part of Fagor/Brandt, but are licensed to use the De Dietrich name. The De Dietrich group's core business is process systems of industrial applications so they ditched their appliances division and their rail division e.g. they were part of the consortium that built the Eurostar Trains and some of the TGV versions. That unit's now known as Alstom DDF.
I would suspect it was the presence of De Dietrich that drove earlier adoption of induction cooking here though, even if it was initially very expensive and high end.
It's only become relatively mainstream and affordable in the last 10 year or so. If you go back further, there were only really a few high end manufactures doing induction and they were VERY expensive appliances relative to normal cooktops.
I checked out the NuWave at Walmart...it is only 1300w. I went through the 'buy' process on the NuWave website in order to find out what all the optional upgrades were. One of them was an option to upgrade to the deluxe version of the Nuwave where it has 1600w. If you were to select all the options, you would be paying well over $400 for the unit, pots/pans, etc.
Gary
Gary
They have this 1800w Hannex for $109. imo it looks nicer as well. Here I am trying to talk myself into getting one. Stop it LOL
Course there's probably going to be some price reductions for Black Friday , Xmas and Boxing day all over.
http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/hannex-portable-induction-cooker-1800w/6000122781010
Course there's probably going to be some price reductions for Black Friday , Xmas and Boxing day all over.
http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/hannex-portable-induction-cooker-1800w/6000122781010
I wonder if they have gotten better??
I recall in the mid 80's, Sears had the stove up for a demo, and when he turned it on, my hearing aids buzzed like crazy! I had to walk a way... Was worried it was going to break my hearing aids...
I recall in the mid 80's, Sears had the stove up for a demo, and when he turned it on, my hearing aids buzzed like crazy! I had to walk a way... Was worried it was going to break my hearing aids...
ozzie908
Well-known member
Pacemaker.....
I was asked if I had one fitted when I enquired why I was told do not lean directly over the hob when on as it could cause a malfunction. Even if I did have one I cannot see me lying directly over the hob while on lol so I assume they are safer now than before?
Austin
I was asked if I had one fitted when I enquired why I was told do not lean directly over the hob when on as it could cause a malfunction. Even if I did have one I cannot see me lying directly over the hob while on lol so I assume they are safer now than before?
Austin
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
1959 Lady Kenmore, freshly restored- Latest: kenmoreguy64
-
Whirlpool BD center post help- Latest: kenmoreguy89
-
Whirlpool dishwasher motors update
- Latest: phillymatt53
