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I would buy a set of these tomorrow if they were available in the US. Unfortunately, Miele thinks Americans are too ignorant to set a washing machine controls properly.

MRB
 
Malcom / MRB - commercial mieles sold in the US are just the same of other ones. Just household ones have "hot" "warm" "cold" "high" "med" "slow" instead of sharp numbers showing exact temp and spin speed.

http://www.professionallaundry.com/model/modelsintro.asp
Stephan / MrBoilWash- nur Kleine Riesen tur gummi haben ... only Little Giants have door boots. All other commercial machines from ( 7.5 kg machines : W6071 - W6073 discontinued) up to big ones have ever had ASKO like doors

http://www.miele-professional.de/de/prof/produkt/33_5565.htm
Once I've used the 30lbs/13Kg one (W6131) in a laundromat to wash a king size comforter and a couple of pillows. As I expected it's a great machine

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Carlo
 
Miele Professional

Unfortunately, there is no equivalent Miele professional laundry pair to the 4840/9820 domestic machines sold in the US at this time.

MRB
 
I would imagine they'd bring these over to the states under the Professional banner. Liable to be major $,$$$ when they arrive of course.
 
Miele Professional Machines

IIRC, start at 4kW for the "Little Giants". That do be quite allot of power, and unlikely found in most homes unless perhaps they have a heavy duty electric dryer or stove connection.

If one searches CL and other sources, every now and then a Miele professional washer and or dryer turns up. Usually from a dry cleaners/commercial laundry that has ceased to exsist.

http://www.miele.ca/miele/pro/pdf/CDN_Little_Giants_EN.pdf
 
A bit like a supercar....

You know, "if you can afford the car you should be able to afford the insurance / gas / tickets"?

If you can afford to drop in a set of these at home then what's a $1k++ electrician's bill to add a couple of 208/220v-3phase lines with associated drywall repair work, etc. ?

I.e. if I ever win the Powerball/Megamillions I'll put these on my list immediately after "new Bensonwood home". Heck, I'd have an upstairs & downstairs set at that point...

Probably not so much otherwise, I'm afraid. Nice engineering, though!
 
$1k for an Electrician?

Most good electricians in this area won't get out of bed and piss for that kind of money. This is one of the reasons Miele had such a hard time selling 220v only washers in NYC. While wiring a home for 220v power is not a difficult job, the costs of having a professional in equalled or exceeded the cost of the washer.

NYC code by the way requires papers and signing off on the project as well. Oh and there is also the problem that it may also require bringing in more power from the street (underground conduit in Manhattan), to the building if the amount of power exceeded what is there.
 
PeterH

Don't think Miele would enter the American coin laundry market in any big way, if at all. Say this as one whom has sat sitting in various laundromats from Paris to Berlin for ages as the washers did their thing, and am here to tell you most Americans wouldn't put up with such long cycle times.

Mind you always wondered why American coin laundries didn't have washing machines with heaters, though many models are capable of accepting steam fittings. It was put to me by a coin laundry businessman that such things only made sense where a steam boiler exsisted for other purposes (as in most commercial laundries), and that by and large Amercian laundromat front loaders are designed for fast through put.
 
Little Giants

The Little Giants can be ordered in a single phase format. I just wish I could find a dealership that had a set on the sales floor. Nobody in the Southeast appears to handle them except by special order only.
 
For What It's Worth

Most if not all TOL 120V Miele washing machines sold in the United States today have three phase motors, including, IIRC the 4000 series. As with many commercial washing machines, there is an inverter inside the unit which converts single phase power to three phase.

Three phase motors are far more robust and reliable than single, which is one of the reasons most all laundromat and commercial front loaders, even small capacity units use three phase motors.
 
MRB

Things may haave changed, but awhile ago our Miele dealer told us that Miele dealers have to order and pay for floor sample units. It is not like Miele sends things out to dealers for display at no charge. Therefore one can pretty much imagine why vendors would be reluctant to shell out several thousands of dollars for a "Little Giant" pair.

Even in the commercial laundry market, Miele is a niche player. One can have units from all and sundry commercial machine makers such as Speed Queen, Unimac, Milnor, and so forth for far less than what one would pay for Miele. Also many of these commercial units are designed with the American laundry business ownere in mind, and are "drop in" ready to replace previous equipment. No special wiring or such required.

L.
 
Inverter drives aren't cheap

Well, yes modern commercial FL machines do use inverter drive systems to power 3 phase motors, however they are often proprietary and don't expect replacement inverter drives to be cheap. When one goes out in say a Wascomat Generation 6 for example or a Dexter "YOU GONNA PAY THE PIPER!!".
 
Rather expensive....

£4720 (~$7775) for the washer in stainless, £3240 (~$5337) for the corresponding dryer based on ebay.de. Ouch!!

Refer again to the whole "winning the lottery.." bit above.
 
Rather expensive....

I think that is an understatement. Why would anyone with money sense spend so much on a domestic laundry pair, unless it is used in a commercial setting where it generates an income. I am also curious if this washer yields only satisfactory rinsing results. For that sort of money I'd want an excellent rating to say the least. Also, in terms of utility consumption, is it like buying an expensive luxury car? Designed to perform with no concern for economy?

Just wondering

rapunzel
 

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