Odd Hobart DW design:

[whirlykenmore78]

How do you clean the pre-scrapper with no access door?   Hire a contortionist to crawl in through the wash section?  Unless you clean the pre-wash from the back side, It does not look like a side loader.

WK78

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[launderess]

Some of those old Flight Dishwashers

Including those made by Hobart were a nightmare to maintain.

Newer models are streets ahead:



Another Hobart model; only because the announcer's voice and accent sends me! *LOL*

 

[toploader55]

Ha !!!

I had a similar model I worked with. I think it was a CPW-80.

Except it had a inspection door. This one has the coveted Front Scrap Basket that could be cleaned during operation. I believe these models (sans the inspection door) only had upper spray and one lower if that. I think early CRS-66 machines had a double upper spray arm and that was that. I think (as I am getting older) the CPW-80 was the first to have a lower scrapping arm with a full inspection door as well as the front mounted scrap basket for emptying during operation.

As it stood... The C-44 was a basic One Tank machine with a Wash Chamber and final rinse. Also that basic model had the Crescent reducer mounted to the left of the motor which drove the Crescent Dual Drive Conveyor Mechanism*.

It was the basic design and work horse. Then you added on... CRS-66 was the C-44 with the No Door scrapper (pre rinse). Then it went up to the CPW-80. Scrapper with the Inspection door, Main Wash and Final Rinse.
Then I think it went up to the CPW-117. That was a 117" machine (in length) and had a Pre Wash, Wash, Power (pump ) rinse and a final 180 rinse.

Then there was one more model after that.

* Crescent Dish washing Machine Company merged with Josephine Cochran which then all became Hobart.

I will search my archives and see if I can find the Spec Sheet, scan it and post.

 

[toploader55]

Just watched the vids (Thanks Laundress).

Sorry... I am old and am from the Energy Hog generation...

Nothing beats lots of water. As in Clothes Washers and Dishwashers.

All that technology and Bean Counting has to have re-wash factors. (Maybe not on a 117" machine) but the Machine I used this past summer was a CLE-44 Hobarts newest and the results were horrible if everything was not tweaked properly. That machine couldn't get a Soup cup clean with chowder in it. (Sorry Nick... I know we chatted about Eco-Lab).

That machine never impressed me compared to the old C-44 with the revolving upper Wash Arm. That Cleaned !!!

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Right you are Launderess:

While the machine I posted is a rack-conveyor, both those and the FT machines are much more user friendly nowadays.  Thank you for the links,  I'm familiar with the FT-1000 but the FTR/FTP are new to me. 

WK78

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Here is a similar dishmachine:

With a chamber door for the Pre-Wash.  This design makes more sense.

WK78

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[stevet]

Here's the deal..

Starting with the video clips, The FT-1000 is the current production Flight machine that Hobart sells at this time. The other clip highlights the flight machines built overseas in Germany and England. The FT900 and 1000 machines share much of the same engineering of their European cousins but tailored to our markets and requirements.

The Ebay machine in the first picture looks to be a 66 inch unit (44 inch wash tank + 22 inch prewash) but the lack of a large door is kind of weird. My feeling on that one is that the customer specified a customized machine where the opening to load the racks was on the opposite side so that dishes could be loaded off of a conveyor of some sort and separated the cafeteria from the dish room. Working on getting an actual model number to satisfy our curiosity.

All large dish machines of the conveyor type by all the manufacturers always came as a basic machine like Eddie had already mentioned to which the end user could add a prewash tank in either a 22 or 36 inch configuration. So a 44" with a 22 prewash would be a CRS66 and then depending on the wash tank size could be a CRS76,86 etc. The 36" prewash would be a CPW80 (44+36)CPW90 (54+36) CPW110 (64+36) and so on.

Both of the machines offered for sale in those ads are very obsolete and any replacement parts still available are now very expensive.

Eddie, you will definitely lament the fact that Hobart no longer builds the Crescent reducers and have been utilizing an off the shelf reducer as a replacement for many years now. And as you also know, they do not use a motor and reducer any more in any of their machines including the flight types.
The fight machines use Variable speed DC drives.

If and when I learn of the information on that first unit, I will add it to this thread.

 

[toploader55]

I know Steve.

Just going down memory lane. I just remember the set up on the old CM series.

I'll stop now.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Conveyor dwell:

A great feature I never saw on the C-line or C-line-A machines.  I was happy to see it re-appear on the CLE series.

WK78

 

[toploader55]

Hey Nick.

They didn't even know what the dwell control did at the Club with the CLe-44.

It is a awesome feature.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

I teach all my dishroom workers how to use Conveyor Dwell:

It makes a huge difference in the nylon flatware we use.  We also use it when running Lime-A-Way in the machine.  Ecolab said to run it for 15 min. I use it to clean the parts of my coffee machine from the office as well LOL!

 

[stevet]

Conveyor Dwell

Was a feature many years ago and was deleted on after the CM series was replaced by the C-Line series like in the top picture. Made its reappearance in the CLe lines and I cannot tell you how many people do not realize it is there! Whenever I show someone that feature, they say that they cannot believe the machine can stop moving the racks while continuing to wash the dishes!