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Oh Yoo-Hoo! Brazil Bosch Washer In USA
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toggleswitch2
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"Sistema Seca Facil 1000"
Easy-dry System 1000? 1,000 R.P.M?
NICE TOY!
Easy-dry System 1000? 1,000 R.P.M?
NICE TOY!
brasilianguy
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It's shameful a brazilian FL washer compared to any european or even american. Brazilian people think that 1000 rpm are a vert high speed, but i don't think that! for exemple, 1000 rpm in an europian washer is an avare speed, not a GREAT thing!
in an TL i til can agree that 1000 rpm is fast, but in an FL...
Washers about the age of this Bosch above had an average speed of 500 to 700 rpm.
Now Bosch launched an washer similar to this in the brasilian market, but with a bigger door (same capacity 5Kg or 10lb), digital panel and 1200 rpm.
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in an TL i til can agree that 1000 rpm is fast, but in an FL...
Washers about the age of this Bosch above had an average speed of 500 to 700 rpm.
Now Bosch launched an washer similar to this in the brasilian market, but with a bigger door (same capacity 5Kg or 10lb), digital panel and 1200 rpm.
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askomiele
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You have to consider also the brazile climat. When you look at catalogues in the south of france. Many high spin machines are not available, but in the north they are. I think it's because of the warm weather. Moslty in those parts they hang the wash outside to dry. So why paying lots of money for a machine with a high spin speed, as the heat of the sun is for free? Oh and if you look at the difference in prices between a 1200 rpm and a 1400 rpm, sometimes it is big!
But I think this is going to change. The dryer is in general a worksaver and a luxury in those parts. So there is potential for the companys to market them... Maybe the need of higher spin speeds to cut drying time will also increase the demand of faster spinning machines.
But I think this is going to change. The dryer is in general a worksaver and a luxury in those parts. So there is potential for the companys to market them... Maybe the need of higher spin speeds to cut drying time will also increase the demand of faster spinning machines.
Agreed
High final spin extractor is a benefit mainly for laundry that will be tumbled dry, and or holds lots of water, such as heavy terrycloth toweling.
While many items will line dry faster besides the above, if subjected to high final spin speeds, you wouldn't always do so for various reasons. For instance bed linens, shirts, delicates, and anything else you don't wish to cause harm or crease to death, should be spun a lower speeds.
High final spin extractor is a benefit mainly for laundry that will be tumbled dry, and or holds lots of water, such as heavy terrycloth toweling.
While many items will line dry faster besides the above, if subjected to high final spin speeds, you wouldn't always do so for various reasons. For instance bed linens, shirts, delicates, and anything else you don't wish to cause harm or crease to death, should be spun a lower speeds.
This is true
This happened also here in IT some years ago. Italy is quite windy (..except here in the northern wet & foggy plains) so 500 rpm has been the standard spin speed and dryer were used only in commercial laundries. Zanussi made 1200 rpm PRIVILEG for German market while the REX/ZOPPAS equivalent for internal market were 600/800 rpm
Sadly now in big towns air is more polluted, often line drying is forbidden, so dryers are getting more popular
So the average spin is 1000 rpm and even the crappiest brand has its 1600 rpm model
This happened also here in IT some years ago. Italy is quite windy (..except here in the northern wet & foggy plains) so 500 rpm has been the standard spin speed and dryer were used only in commercial laundries. Zanussi made 1200 rpm PRIVILEG for German market while the REX/ZOPPAS equivalent for internal market were 600/800 rpm
Sadly now in big towns air is more polluted, often line drying is forbidden, so dryers are getting more popular
So the average spin is 1000 rpm and even the crappiest brand has its 1600 rpm model
brasilianguy
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wow... I'm perplexed about knowing that european line dry clothes..... i tought that 1º world used dryers, but, as i can see, europe is like here in brazil....
i know that our climat is very hot, and is an waste of money to use a dryer, but as was said above, is worksaver and luxury to use a dryer!!
i agree that i'm an admirer of american culture and habits, but, i really think theyr way to live is the best... using driers ans dishwashers... things that here in brazil are considered unnecessary!
just for curiosity, here in brazil we use a mix of american and australian way to do laundry, with top load agitation washers, long soak time and cold wather.
the few driers that we have in our market are vented, and don't have automatic programs, just timed ones and usually 2 temps, high and low! we don't have national gas dryers here, the only one model of gas dryer that we have here is the american whirlpool duet, sold under "Brastemp" brand, but extremelly expansive, completely out of any brazilian reality. gas dryer here would be more usable, as gas is much cheaper than electricity.
the model of dishwasher we use here are the european system, with cold fill (couse homes here don't have central wather heating system, just have an electric shower to take bath!) and auto heat. no heated dry and hidden heating element. oh, our dishwashers don't have salt dispenser couse our wather don't need it!!! but 12 service dishwasher here are so expansive and just a few people have (and most of then have just to beautify the kitchen!). a bit more people have countertop models (6 or 9 services) but just couse they're cheaper and just to beautify the kitchen too!
i know that our climat is very hot, and is an waste of money to use a dryer, but as was said above, is worksaver and luxury to use a dryer!!
i agree that i'm an admirer of american culture and habits, but, i really think theyr way to live is the best... using driers ans dishwashers... things that here in brazil are considered unnecessary!
just for curiosity, here in brazil we use a mix of american and australian way to do laundry, with top load agitation washers, long soak time and cold wather.
the few driers that we have in our market are vented, and don't have automatic programs, just timed ones and usually 2 temps, high and low! we don't have national gas dryers here, the only one model of gas dryer that we have here is the american whirlpool duet, sold under "Brastemp" brand, but extremelly expansive, completely out of any brazilian reality. gas dryer here would be more usable, as gas is much cheaper than electricity.
the model of dishwasher we use here are the european system, with cold fill (couse homes here don't have central wather heating system, just have an electric shower to take bath!) and auto heat. no heated dry and hidden heating element. oh, our dishwashers don't have salt dispenser couse our wather don't need it!!! but 12 service dishwasher here are so expansive and just a few people have (and most of then have just to beautify the kitchen!). a bit more people have countertop models (6 or 9 services) but just couse they're cheaper and just to beautify the kitchen too!
Machine drying was first sold to housewives as a way for them to do laundry independent of the weather outdoors. No longer would Madam, her maid or the launderess have to wait for a nice sunny and warm day (with a good breeze), to do the washing.
There were heated dryers prior to tumble dryers, but were more like giant toasters with sliding racks. One draped or hung wet laundry on racks or hangers, and slid them into the drying closet type machine, where gentle heat would "dry" laundry. This in turn was merely a more fancy version of the old method of hanging laundry in a room with a small fire or heat from a range.
In the United States at least, clotheslines have been demonised as poverty, which is one reason they fell out of favour. Despite the fact in warmer climates, laundry hung out in the morning would be dry in a matter of hours.
Growing up we only used the dryer in the colder months and or when it was bad weather outside. Otherwise everything was hung on the line in the backyard.
There were heated dryers prior to tumble dryers, but were more like giant toasters with sliding racks. One draped or hung wet laundry on racks or hangers, and slid them into the drying closet type machine, where gentle heat would "dry" laundry. This in turn was merely a more fancy version of the old method of hanging laundry in a room with a small fire or heat from a range.
In the United States at least, clotheslines have been demonised as poverty, which is one reason they fell out of favour. Despite the fact in warmer climates, laundry hung out in the morning would be dry in a matter of hours.
Growing up we only used the dryer in the colder months and or when it was bad weather outside. Otherwise everything was hung on the line in the backyard.
ronhic
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Clothesline drying
Is interesting (and a shame) that line drying is seen as being tied to affordability and associated with being poor...
My parents are comfortable and have always bought the best they could afford - Frigidaire and Simpson in the 60's, ASEA in the 80's etc, yet hell will freeze before my mother owns a dryer (or a dishwasher...which is just silly). Here, making it known that you routinely mechanically dry is seen as wasteful and indulgent if you have the facility to use nature and not pay for it. I have had THE lecture about 'waste and resources' and 'penny saved is a penny earnt' from more friends and relatives that I care to name.
Dryers here are seen as 'depth of winter, wet weather use only' machines. I still tumble dry towels and smalls but sheets and clothing are generally hung up either on an airer inside or on the line....
My grandmother used to say that 'Your whites should be WHITE, your brights BRIGHT and you should be proud to let the world see them!'
Is interesting (and a shame) that line drying is seen as being tied to affordability and associated with being poor...
My parents are comfortable and have always bought the best they could afford - Frigidaire and Simpson in the 60's, ASEA in the 80's etc, yet hell will freeze before my mother owns a dryer (or a dishwasher...which is just silly). Here, making it known that you routinely mechanically dry is seen as wasteful and indulgent if you have the facility to use nature and not pay for it. I have had THE lecture about 'waste and resources' and 'penny saved is a penny earnt' from more friends and relatives that I care to name.
Dryers here are seen as 'depth of winter, wet weather use only' machines. I still tumble dry towels and smalls but sheets and clothing are generally hung up either on an airer inside or on the line....
My grandmother used to say that 'Your whites should be WHITE, your brights BRIGHT and you should be proud to let the world see them!'
