Oil Spill

[hunter]

Yes indeed.

The amount of hypocrisy and evil in governments throughout the world is nothing short of amazing.

Frankly, this is WHY our constitution was set up with such incredibly strict limits on government power. Rather unfortunate that the 'limited state of emergency' that every president manages to declare (OK City terror with Clinton, 9/11 with Bush, Swine Flu with Obama) further erodes civil liberties and gives the federal government more power.

Just wait til the national ID is implemented and, oh yes, things like sexual orientation will be put in it just for security purposes...

It's feeling like the 20s again.

 

[panthera]

NO,

Hunter, you are totally wrong. You are far too optimistic.
It feels like Autumn 1938. Temporary peace, but we are all waiting for the next shoe to drop.
Liebermann has introduced a bill to let the State Department, cancel the American citizenship of anyone, for any reason they deem acceptable, without a court hearing or even notification.

The Obama adminsitration opposes it completely, but it has already picked up several supporters on the rethuglican fringe and the tea-baggers. This is why, distasteful as I find the politics of the "urgency of whenever" when it comes to my civil and human rights as a gay man, I still prefer the democrats to the right-wing whack-jobs.

I don't know what is scarier - these attempts to destroy the constitution or the fact that so many conservatives fall for it.

 

[panthera]

Of course,

The christianists have now turned on Dr. Rekers totally. They are threatening the brave gay blogs which published the details with lawsuits, attacking that poor young business man - and both his university in South Carolina as well as FRC have completed their erasure of him from their websites. Stalin couldn't have done it better.
Even on wikipedia, the christianists are erasing the details and they are being put back in nearly hourly.

 

[alr2903]

AC 360

Did anyone watch Anderson tonight, he spoke on the phone with professor, from Purdue. The man thinks the oil is pouring out of the pipe at a rate, that would equal an Exxon Valdez spill every 4 days. I am truly worked up over this. alr2903

 

[panthera]

It is very scary

I haven't been that deep in the South in a few years, but I remember most folks down there living from exactly the sectors which are not gone with the...oil...for the next fifty years, at least: Tourism, fishing, small agriculture.

They're dead and they ain't coming back.

But heh - no problem, right - the folks who caused this mess are going to be held liable for 10 billion smackaroonies, no?

Ah, no.

A senator from Alaska just killed the bill. It is unfair to the oil companies to make them pay for the damages they cause.

Honestly! Check out the link.

Wow. Just, like, wow.

Lisa Murkowski BLOCKS Move To Raise Oil Spill Liability Cap To $10 Billion

Lisa Murkowski BLOCKS Move To Raise Oil Spill Liability Cap To $10 Billion

www.huffingtonpost.com

 

[sudsman]

A senator from Alaska just killed the bill. It is unfair to

Makes one wonder just how much they ar PAYING her!

 

[panthera]

300K so far

And that's all she admits to.

 

[sudsman]

That means it is most likely

4 or 5 x that plus who knows what esle she got. And we are all getting a big one up the *****

And it just keep getting worse
Scientists and environmental groups say the real figure must be far larger.

 

[sudsman]

Does any one here know

if the oil gets into all the pumps around New Orleans if they can handle it or will they stall out.. Will The weight may be too much for them to handle.

 

[lordkenmore]

I wonder if I caused millions of dollars of damage that harmed BP if Lisa Murkowski and all her dear conservative friends would be willing to work hard to make sure I'd only owe a fraction of that.

Somehow, I have the feeling the answer is no.

I don't often feel this way, but right now, I'd like to move to Alaska just so I could have the sheer joy and pleasure of voting against Murkowski next time she runs for office.

 

[sudsman]

I wonder

If she can see Russia from her front window too?

 

[panthera]

Now, Now

Everybody knows this is just a little bit of chocolate milk, let the waves stir it up a bit and it will all disperse in a day or two, Monday at the latest.

And who says it's the Exxon Valdez every four days? Right. The Obama administration.

And we all know they blew it up in the first place, just so they wouldn't have to pass the offshore-drilling...which they just authorized...

Well, shucks, gosh, golly, darn.

Anyway, I'm sure it's all a plot by them thar unchristian environmentalists and Europeans to discredit big oil so they can force windfarms and solar energy down our throats.

Forgive me the skepticism, but, really. Just what the hell are all the little people down there going to do? Their fisheries are gone, their tourism is gone and their beach-front property is not a tar-pit without La Brea and dinosaurs, it's just a big pile of stinking goo.

The link shows up part of the problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14agency.html?pagewanted=2&hp

 

[sudsman]

Just wonder about the billions and billions

it is going to effect in shipping. A lot of goods come thru there.

 

[panthera]

No, Lee,

all the shipping that WENT through there.
Including a pretty large amount of liquid petroleum gas and other fossil fuels.

 

[sudsman]

But are there not a lot of goods shipped out

of New O. thru there?

 

[panthera]

in, out, through trans or cis

They is are screwed.
Lube everywhere, still - dry screwed.

This is going to be Obama's proof-stone. If he fails to make the little people whole on this one, he's not worthy of re-election.

I can't believe these oh-so-patriotic Republicans aren't setting aside politics to help, here.

Guess the Great Experiment really has failed. All that's left is "I've got mine, screw you" and "my way or the highway".

Seriously, as a yellow-dawg Democrat, I expect more from my side of the great divide. I've made my (small) donation. Symbolic more than anything else, but every cent helps.

 

[panthera]

Obama Fuming

Well, it's about time.

Honestly, he needed to blow up two weeks ago.

This just gets worse and worse. Scientists are saying up to 70,000 barrels a day.
BP is saying max, 5,000 a day.

Puhlease.

This is precisely why we need government oversight.
This is precisely why we need science.

I'm just surprised the christianists haven't yet gathered to pronounce this God's judgement on America for...wait for it...
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Teh gayz

Sheesh.

Obama's Gulf Oil Spill Response: The System Has Failed (VIDEO)

Obama's Gulf Oil Spill Response: The System Has Failed (VIDEO)

www.huffingtonpost.com

 

[cleanteamofny]

Tar baby, now let's see if we can go to the beach on the 4th of July in Atlantic City or the water damage state of Rhode Island in September.

Oil, oil, everywhere, on our beaches and in our hair!
Martha Steward would say "It's a good thing!" Nice of you dark and lovely to drop by and refuse to leave.
That chocloate milk theory is a nightmare. Doctor death under the ocean, now I see a picture that we cannot phantom.

BP new name should be Busted Pump can I get a whoom, whoomp!?!

BTW, everyone is at fault for this one.
Major corp to our wonderful nation of take the money and look the other way.

 

[alr2903]

Well, the Gulf of Mexico now belongs to BP. BP and the Coast Guard turned the CNN camera's away yesterday. Say whatever, I hope Michael Moore is at a boat launch in Louisiana right NOW. alr2903

 

[cleanteamofny]

Since the H-cane season is at hand, how far will the oil be pushed inland?
No one is talking about inland damages that will occurs if this happens. Farm, water supply, etc.....