Atlanta CL. Part of a "package" but apparently available as a pair without the rest of the kitchen.
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Older KenMo pair
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Could THAT be a washer Gordon doesn't have?........
Could THAT be a washer Gordon doesn't have?........
Sorry Martin - that is a 23721 model, which means 1983 mid-line 70 series. It was available from early 1983 until late 1986.
I have several of these, in fact one is currently installed in my lineup right now. It was Kenmore's best selling belt-drive of the 1980s. And judging by how many I've come across, even just in the last few months on the AW.org Craigslist spotter's reports, they must have produced these by the railcar load and they are still out there in decent numbers. They were available at one time or another in those four years in White, Avocado, Golden Wheat, Coffee, Almond, Toast and Platinum. When the Toast and Platinum came out, the Coffee and Avocado went away. At one time or another I have had every color in this model except Platinum and Coffee. They were EASY sellers in the 1990s as rebuilts.
I would really love to find one of this era in Coffee - to me it was the most attractive color out there, bar none.
Gordon
Sorry Martin - that is a 23721 model, which means 1983 mid-line 70 series. It was available from early 1983 until late 1986.
I have several of these, in fact one is currently installed in my lineup right now. It was Kenmore's best selling belt-drive of the 1980s. And judging by how many I've come across, even just in the last few months on the AW.org Craigslist spotter's reports, they must have produced these by the railcar load and they are still out there in decent numbers. They were available at one time or another in those four years in White, Avocado, Golden Wheat, Coffee, Almond, Toast and Platinum. When the Toast and Platinum came out, the Coffee and Avocado went away. At one time or another I have had every color in this model except Platinum and Coffee. They were EASY sellers in the 1990s as rebuilts.
I would really love to find one of this era in Coffee - to me it was the most attractive color out there, bar none.
Gordon
Bonus Round
Gordon,
What can you tell us about the dryer? Correct information is worth 200 AW.org points!
L
Gordon,
What can you tell us about the dryer? Correct information is worth 200 AW.org points!
L
It looks like the dryer needs a door latch. The piece of tape is a giveaway. At least it has a lint screen even though it looks like a one dial wonder from Sears.
I recently came across a user's manual for early-mid 60s KM dryers with the old style rotating & perforated drum back and was surprised at how many of the lower models did not have an internal lint screen. These all had the exhaust opening at the upper left of the cabinet if you were looking at it from the back and at the upper right if you were looking over the control panel. Since it covered maybe 7 models, it gave no instructions about venting or the care of the lint screen. Some of the models even had temperature selections and more than one cycle on the timer, but still no lint screen. What they showed on the back was some sort of solid metal frame that held the screen but allowed the air to squirt out at the corners. It would have to be removed to vent the machine. It would be a great sell up feature because these lower end models would be best used on a screen porch. If vented, they would need the add on box to house the filter and that plus the vent would really make the dryer stick out from the wall. Maybe in a basement, the extra depth would not matter and maybe if the vent was short enough, you could get by without a lint screen, but you would have a mess outside.
I recently came across a user's manual for early-mid 60s KM dryers with the old style rotating & perforated drum back and was surprised at how many of the lower models did not have an internal lint screen. These all had the exhaust opening at the upper left of the cabinet if you were looking at it from the back and at the upper right if you were looking over the control panel. Since it covered maybe 7 models, it gave no instructions about venting or the care of the lint screen. Some of the models even had temperature selections and more than one cycle on the timer, but still no lint screen. What they showed on the back was some sort of solid metal frame that held the screen but allowed the air to squirt out at the corners. It would have to be removed to vent the machine. It would be a great sell up feature because these lower end models would be best used on a screen porch. If vented, they would need the add on box to house the filter and that plus the vent would really make the dryer stick out from the wall. Maybe in a basement, the extra depth would not matter and maybe if the vent was short enough, you could get by without a lint screen, but you would have a mess outside.
Lawrence -
The dryer in this picture is actually a 1970 or 1971 model. Within the last year I acquired this same model from Martin/Yogi. Mine is a 1971 model built in late 1971. It's a low-end 200 series dryer, but it still has Normal, Perm, and air cycles. The wattage on the heater is 4400 watts instead of the more typical 5200 or 5600, so it might be a little slower. The reverse side of that is it might be tad more gentle, that is if 5200/5600 watts is ever too warm.
For reasons which elude me and have always made me very curious, Sears reprised a number of console and knob configurations in the early 1970s on some model dryers. The console on this model is nearly identical to that used in many 1962/1963 models, except the trim colors were changed. This was done also with some same era 24-inch washers, but it was not done with their 29-inch washer counterparts, OR in perfectly matching pairs. I have no idea what marketing was thinking, but these models often fool people into thinking the machine is much older than it is, especially to those of us who know more than the average consumer about what models looked like in the early 60s. The 1972 built dryers are a little bit more obvious because they have the '72 debut of the plastic door handles, which stand out as "not so old" much more readily than this model with the heavy chromed handle.
Tom refers to some of the earlier dryers which did indeed have an externally mounted lint filter. These were made on dryer models that had the belt-drive blowers, which ended by 1966. I was unaware that users had to choose between having the machine vented or having a lint filter. The catalogs always describe these machines as having a "rear mounted" lint screen. The user was expected to reach behind the dryer, on the right top behind the timer, to remove the filter. My assumption has been that the heavy felt trim around the screen would seal the airflow just as it does when in the other location, perhaps not? I have looked at these from a lack of convenience perspective only vs. having compromised venting or filtration. These models were limited to the single cycle 400 series, and the two or three cycle 500 series models. Once moving into the 60/600 series, the filters were always top mounted. The rear screens required less (or no) internal ducting inside the dryer's cabinet, but I always assumed that venting was done from beyond the "lint box" on dryers so equipped. I am sure that eventually one will show up here that we can explore.
Gordon
The dryer in this picture is actually a 1970 or 1971 model. Within the last year I acquired this same model from Martin/Yogi. Mine is a 1971 model built in late 1971. It's a low-end 200 series dryer, but it still has Normal, Perm, and air cycles. The wattage on the heater is 4400 watts instead of the more typical 5200 or 5600, so it might be a little slower. The reverse side of that is it might be tad more gentle, that is if 5200/5600 watts is ever too warm.
For reasons which elude me and have always made me very curious, Sears reprised a number of console and knob configurations in the early 1970s on some model dryers. The console on this model is nearly identical to that used in many 1962/1963 models, except the trim colors were changed. This was done also with some same era 24-inch washers, but it was not done with their 29-inch washer counterparts, OR in perfectly matching pairs. I have no idea what marketing was thinking, but these models often fool people into thinking the machine is much older than it is, especially to those of us who know more than the average consumer about what models looked like in the early 60s. The 1972 built dryers are a little bit more obvious because they have the '72 debut of the plastic door handles, which stand out as "not so old" much more readily than this model with the heavy chromed handle.
Tom refers to some of the earlier dryers which did indeed have an externally mounted lint filter. These were made on dryer models that had the belt-drive blowers, which ended by 1966. I was unaware that users had to choose between having the machine vented or having a lint filter. The catalogs always describe these machines as having a "rear mounted" lint screen. The user was expected to reach behind the dryer, on the right top behind the timer, to remove the filter. My assumption has been that the heavy felt trim around the screen would seal the airflow just as it does when in the other location, perhaps not? I have looked at these from a lack of convenience perspective only vs. having compromised venting or filtration. These models were limited to the single cycle 400 series, and the two or three cycle 500 series models. Once moving into the 60/600 series, the filters were always top mounted. The rear screens required less (or no) internal ducting inside the dryer's cabinet, but I always assumed that venting was done from beyond the "lint box" on dryers so equipped. I am sure that eventually one will show up here that we can explore.
Gordon
Rear mounted lint filters on KM and WP dryers
There were two different styles used over the years starting with the 1948 dryers and ending around 1965-6 when WP switched to the Direct drive blower and moved the exhaust outlet to the bottom center of the dryer. Some of the rear mounted lint screens were just that a lint screen to be used when the dryer was unvented, the other design was a white metal steel box with knockouts that contained a top mounted lint filter. This 2nd type lint filter could be connected to external vent pipe if you wanted to vent the dryers heat and humidity outside.
There were two different styles used over the years starting with the 1948 dryers and ending around 1965-6 when WP switched to the Direct drive blower and moved the exhaust outlet to the bottom center of the dryer. Some of the rear mounted lint screens were just that a lint screen to be used when the dryer was unvented, the other design was a white metal steel box with knockouts that contained a top mounted lint filter. This 2nd type lint filter could be connected to external vent pipe if you wanted to vent the dryers heat and humidity outside.
JohnL....
On these dryers with the belt drive blowers, located before the filters......did they have a problem with lint build-upon the squirrel cage requiring more frequent clean out?.....ever pull this style filter out while the machine was running?...and get a face full of lint!...
as opposed to the later models with the big filter first, and then the air flow to the blower and out the port.......I noticed a lot of people pulling this style filter out while running, the suction of air pulls any loose dust down the chute and out...
On these dryers with the belt drive blowers, located before the filters......did they have a problem with lint build-upon the squirrel cage requiring more frequent clean out?.....ever pull this style filter out while the machine was running?...and get a face full of lint!...
as opposed to the later models with the big filter first, and then the air flow to the blower and out the port.......I noticed a lot of people pulling this style filter out while running, the suction of air pulls any loose dust down the chute and out...
Clogged Blowers ?
Hi Martin, I never saw a problem with blower clogging on the earlier blowers where the blower was exposed to the exhaust before the lint screen. That said I do prefer the later system as this is the ONLY dryer that you can clean the lint filter on while the dryer is running and the excess dust that is created when you clean ANY dryers lint filter is sucked harmlessly outside the home.
This quick release of DRY lint that is sucked into the lint filter housing will not stick inside the duct work and will be harmlessly blown out side.
Hi Martin, I never saw a problem with blower clogging on the earlier blowers where the blower was exposed to the exhaust before the lint screen. That said I do prefer the later system as this is the ONLY dryer that you can clean the lint filter on while the dryer is running and the excess dust that is created when you clean ANY dryers lint filter is sucked harmlessly outside the home.
This quick release of DRY lint that is sucked into the lint filter housing will not stick inside the duct work and will be harmlessly blown out side.
Westinghouse dryers also had a lint screen mounted in the back that covered a 4 inch hole. So I guess one would either have the lint filter and vent inside or vent outside with no filter at all. The filter tray would pop up when the door was open reminding you to clean the filter. At my aunt with the Westinghouse, she had her housekeeper dust off all of the walls of the basement until about 1980 when she had an electrician there who told her the dryer was not installed properly (it was hard-wired with no big plug). He took the dryer and she had a Whirlpool installed on the opposite outside wall with vent.
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