Overloaded F/L

[toggleswitch]

Hi Everyone.

I met up with Holland's own Louis on Saturday!

We enjoyed our Saturday doing some tourist stuff and then going to P.C. Richard's (an appliance selling chain store) where we spent house discussing those silly mistakes engineers make designing these things, as well as their brilliant inspirations.

Joining us also was our own Peter (Peteski50) from Westchester County.

To continue our weekend we had a little gathering at my suburban tee-pee the next day, Sunday.

Some friends came by with tons of really dirty laundry (EEEEEWWWW) and we spent the day discussing appliances and washing dirty clothes and debating and stuffing our pie-holes. (Well OK I did some cooking too! and if I get wind of who muttered under their breath "Look t1t$ in the oven again.." there will be H - E double-hockey-sticks to pay. LOL LOL LOL.)

Back to the point... I have a friend who is kinda like a bull in a china shop who stuck his laundry into my Frid-ge-more and overloaded it to the point that the door was ready to bust open and it was kinda of sticking out at the bottom. There was a drop or two of water as the glass moved away from the boot/seal!

My dear friend (damn heathen!)also tried to pull the door open while it was still locked. I lost it and shouted "WAIT!!!!" Is this what it is like when you see your dog running into the wheels of a truck? I almost cried! [No one gets to load my baby EVER anymore!] But Europeans designs being somehow indestructable and butch and rugged, it took to abuse without complaint and recovered nicely... (the machine, dear, not Louis. LOL I am hoping Louis had nothing to complain about!!!!)

I am not sure, but I think Louis approves, and believes I am ready to meet the rest of the gang at the convention. I just can't ask him such a direct question. (HA!)

Thank you both for a wonderful weekend. And to the other two local parties who were invited...hope to see you next time.

NYC Metropolitan area NYC members (yes you.. NJ and CT) feel free to write me. I look forward to hositng again before summer ends!

 

[peteski50]

Overloaded F/L

Hi Steven,
I want to add I had a real wonderful time and throughly enjoyed your and Robs hospitably. Hope to chat soon.
Peter

 

[spiraclean]

Hi Steve,
Sadly most users in the UK overload their front loaders (Then they complain when their washing is not cleaned properly). I think because of this tendency for overloading European machines need to be fairly robust. The problem is that UK front loaders have pathetically small wash drums the largest domestic UK front loaders have a 15Lb wash capacity which means there is no room for the laundry to tumble properly. To compensate for this the wash cycle times have to be extended in order to get good cleaning results this means UK front loaders take forever to complete a cycle, a hot whites wash can take 2-3 hours depending on the household water temp.
I am the proud owner of an American made Whirlpool Top Loader (240 Volts 50Hz made for the UK market), it takes an 18Lb load, washes cleaner, rinses better and the cycle times are so fast 30 mins for a hot whites wash. It is vastly superior to any of the front loaders I own including my Dyson Contra Rotator.

Best Regards.
Hugh

 

[appnut]

Wow Hugh. And there are those of us who are fans of our new super-size front loaders being marketed here (with the supplemental heating of course). Cycle times will be long, but I know my laundry will be far cleaner than my Whirlpool-produced Kenmore from Sears & Roebuck.

 

[partscounterman]

not just the UK....

Oh, lordy do the american ladies overstuff the machines too. The gal who lives in the main house at our place has an old Hotpoint toploader. She usually stuffs a load in before she takes her brats to church. I then go into her laundry room for a quick washer fix....and the poor thing is so stuffed that the clothes hardly move. Its sad really because those old Hotpoints are very capable washers when loaded properly.

Most washer problems are due to overloading, but don't say that out loud around Mama. Most women will jump down your throat before they will admit to overloading the machine.

 

[appnut]

I've witnessed a few overload their machines too. The paramedics have to be called cuz I've learned not to say a word and agonize for the poor machine. (especially when it was a late 1960s early 1970s Kenmore 400--2 speed with waterfall filter).

 

[mayken4now]

Dont we all

overload the machine(s), no not I, holy and very holy I excuse the excessive mess. NOT Yes, we all try to do more than expected.

Steve

 

[spiraclean]

US Super-Size Front Loaders

Hi Folks,
Do the new US Super-Size Front Loaders have large wash drums with plenty of room for the laundry to tumble? When the laundry has room to tumble freely the cleaning action is greatly improved and the wash cycle time can be reduced? The problem in the UK is the cabinet size of the machine which is a standard depth height and width designed to fit under a kitchen counter; this poses problems for designers as the inner wash drum must fit into this standard cabinet size. As a result when fully loaded a 15Lb capacity machine leaves almost no room for the clothes to tumble, result long wash times are required to get the laundry clean. There is one exception to this rule the Dyson Contra Rotator (See link) which is considerably faster but still no match for the Whirlpool Top Loader on cycle times.

Best Regards.
Hugh

http://www.dyson.co.uk/range/range_overview.asp?model=CR02&sinavtype=pagelink

 

[toggleswitch]

ah...

so are we saying women like really big loads, whereas men prefer to do smaller loads more frequently? LOL

So after lusting after Laundress' twin-tub lately, for the past few days a fried's GE filter-flow (circa early 90s) has been popping into my head for no reason.

Would you believe he called me today to say it died? His tenants use it in an apt he rents in a potion of his house.
--No action. I just want it!

To get it all i have to do is buy a POS replacment. Will get a T/L Frigilux for <$300. Sorry to say price will dictate. LOL

Then I have to get the GE machine repaired. I just dont have the patience to deal with it. Who knows, I may try.

But since a GE was my first washer when I set up house in 1981, it is sweet, sweet memories!

 

[spiraclean]

Hi Steve,
Well all I can say is the mortal sin of overloading does not takes place in any of my washers. Mum is not allowed to use them but if she were allowed to use my washers you can be sure they would be well overloaded LoL.

Hugh

 

[toggleswitch]

Hi Hugh!

Hi Steve!

Hi Bob

Hi Mr. Hawaii (Dave I believe!)

Hi Peter!

 

[spiraclean]

Hi everyone,
I hope I have not offended anyone? No offence was intended.
I do like front loaders and I have no doubt US front loaders are superb machines. I am interested in the cycle times for US front loaders how long does the hot whites wash take? Perhaps someone could provide some info.
Thanks in advance.
Hugh.

 

[toggleswitch]

Hugh.

None taken by me, anyhow.

In my "shadow", you look great!

 

[appnut]

Hugh, absolutely no offense taken here either.

 

[lavamat_jon]

Hugh,

HOW DARE YOU!!! DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT???

Only kidding :-D. I've actually become quite interested in a Whirlpool toploader myself but I think I need space in my bedroom for a bed . I must say that I do fill the drum of my Miele/AEG/Bosch frontloaders; however I leave a gap at the top, and I can actually close the door so clothes do clean. My mum on the other hand... she sometimes really has to push the door shut! Then she complains at me about the washer not washing probably . Although her worst sin is using Surcare, which has to be the most CRAP detergent you can get here. That's why I've banned her from laundry completely - although she's still allowed to do the ironing LOL.

Of course, I never use the 2 hour cycles... the longest I use is the 1:30h cycle for whites. IMO if you use a good detergent (I use Persil Biological or Colour Care for most things) you really don't need the 2hour wash times. I've also found Fairy is good at washing, although it suds *a lot* and the machine ends up doing extra rinses cos of suds lock etc.

Oh, Steve - say hi to Louis from me! .

Take care all,

Jon

 

[frigilux]

Hi Hugh,

I have a 2003 Frigidaire (made by Electrolux) FL'er and it takes about 52 minutes to complete the longest cycle (which is called Whites, Heavy Soil). It has an 18 minute wash period. There is no water heater to lengthen the cycle. But if you're using a Whirlpool TL, you are used to that. It has a 2.9 cubic ft. drum.

I'm going to buy the newly redesigned Frigidaire FL'er, with a 3.5 cubic ft. wash drum. The length of the whites cycle on that one is 54 minutes. Again, no water heater.

 

[toggleswitch]

Who needs a bed these days?

Hi Jon:

Quote: but I think I need space in my bedroom for a bed ..

3 machines wide is enough room to put a mattress on top, no?
Imagine being in bed during the spin cycles... LOL.. Better than "magic fingers" (vibrating bed feature) seen in flea-bag motels!

 

[toggleswitch]

Quote: I've also found Fairy is good at washing, although it suds *a lot*

LOL ROFL LMAO

WHY WHY WHY do you guys feed me these open lines?

 

[toggleswitch]

Hi Frigilux.

I have the same machine and can vouch for the accuracy of your figures!