P&G EC30 carbon neutral cleaning product line

[sarahperdue]

Hi Everyone,

What do you think about Procter & Gamble's new EC30 carbon neutral product line? If you haven't heard about it, please check it out. You all have much more knowledge and experience with what ingredients work best. Are the laundry swatches detergent or soap?

I've been using Tru-Earth laundry strips for some years. I'd say they are adequate. Between my younger son and myself, we use the Tru-Earth strips on between 1/2 and 2/3 of our laundry. Anything that needs more cleaning power goes in with Tide Free.

I find myself wondering if P&G's decades of experience manufacturing excellent cleaning products and willingness to combine "natural" and synthetic ingredients will produce a superior product in the eco-friendly, carbon zero market.

I like the compactness and eco friendly packaging of the dry sheet/strip format. I think it makes incredible sense to stop transporting gallons of liquid cleaners that are mostly water in tons of plastic containers if they can be replaced by concentrated, dry products. I ordered shampoo, conditioner, laundry and toilet bowl cleaners. They also offer body wash and hand wash. I use Dr. Bronner's well diluted in foaming soap dispensers for those. Even though Bronner's is a liquid that comes in a plastic bottle, I think it stacks up well from an environmental perspective and is very inexpensive. I might try the body wash at some point, but we wash our hands entirely too often for the EC30 hand wash sachets to be even remotely affordable.

At 87 cents a swatch for laundry, the EC30 products are much more expensive than comparable products or Tide pods. Are they worth it?

Thank you,
Sarah

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[sarahperdue]

Bump!

Isn't someone here interested in these eco, low waste products?

I'm very interested to hear what you've tried and what you thought. If some of you are interested but don't want to try a whole package, maybe we could buy different brands then swap.

Sarah

 

[henene4]

Great idea, insane pricing

Paying double per use would seam fair to me.

But you are paying 66 cents per shower JUST FOR BODY WASH, or 1$ per load of laundry, or 2$ for cleaning your toilet once.

The ingredients of the detergent seem pretty normal - it's a concentrated liquid in a dissolvable pod as it seems, and the ingredients appear to be pretty normal pod detergent.

The packaging is all cardboard - which isn't any cheaper or heavier than plastic.
Nothing screams to me why these products have to be that expensive.

An average detergent has a total carbon footprint of less than 2lbs per load.
In Germany, I can buy carbon offset for 430kg for 10€.
Though the effectiveness of these offsets is debated, even if I half that amount is actually offset, offsetting a load of laundry is about 40 cents.

So you would probably end up being cheaper AND more effective at going carbon neutral if you just kept buying a normal powder detergent in a cardboard box and offsetting 4lbs/load for detergent through some reputable carbon offset project.

 

[iej]

This is reminding me of the way artisanal craft beers came along and then when the market was established major international beer brands all began rushing to become all artisanal and cool…

 

[volvoman]

"...Isn't someone here interested in these eco, low waste products?.."

For me? No.

I say this as someone that has tried various "eco" detergents - be it liquid, powder, or sheets - only to be underwhelmed by every single one of them. Sure, I'd love to do my part...but I've yet to find one that packs enough of a cleaning punch, with a fresh scent (Mrs. Volvoman and I love our laundry with that fresh detergent scent - but that's just us).

Interestingly enough, Consumer Reports just published an updated laundry detergent article, and included detergent sheets. Unsurprisingly, they did not clean any better than plain water.

 

[sarahperdue]

No better than plain water...

Disappointing. Thanks for the input.

There are lots of ways to improve the environment, and I will continue to purchase used, reuse, recycle, etc.

I hope someone develops sheet or other highly concentrated products that are effective. I love how they are so compact. I suppose it's possible that a lot of existing products are as concentrated as they can be to still be effective.

So, I bought these P&G products to try--shampoo, conditioner, laundry detergent and toilet bowl cleaner. So far, I've tried everything except the laundry detergent.

I'm happy with the shampoo and conditioner so far, although I think the shampoo is too sudsy. I'll need to use it longer to get any idea of how my hair will look and feel over the long term.

Sarah

 

[iej]

I’ve spotted those detergent sheets here in Ireland. I don’t see them taking off though. Just looks like another gimmick.