HA, thanks togs.
you read what my mind said but my fingers refused to say.
And what the hell's wrong with GE?
My grandparents had them, my family's had them at 2 homes, I've had them at this current house, and will have GEs again at the new apt. They've been all trouble free, doing their intended jobs, and if the apt. appliances are anything like the GEs of my past 20 years experience, I'm sure they'll be fine too.