Parnall SpinWasher De-Luxe 1966

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Hi Mike & the Parnall-etts,
Looks like you all had a good time fiddling with the Spinwasher !! I have always thought they were great machines and offered the housewife total control over the wash with energy saving opportunities.
The machine looks in great nick, luv the 3-way diverter valve, much better design than the Hoover diverter valve.
Happy Spin-washing !!
Keith

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Parnall Spinwwasher De-Luxe EWH601H

Hi Leon, its cleaner now with all those hands on it ha ha, must admit if ever I see a vitreous outer tub " Its gotta be shined" ,
can you see the similar outer tub was talking about on the Thor?

Morning Keith, yes its a labour of love with these isnt it, glad all the mechanics where fine, just need brake shoes adjusting, and thanks for showing the pic of your agi cover, we where trying to work out what type it was, a Beemer badge fitted perfectly so getting one pressed with a P on it!!

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What a fun day you all had - restorations go more quickly and tons more fun with lots of hands in the mix.

That's a really cool washer, how fast does it spin?  You're right about the diverter valve, it looks very reliable compared to what Hoover used, especially in the early models.

 

Looks like your peanut butter test passed with high marks.  That's such a cool dishwasher. 
 
Hi Mike,

Yes they are a labour of love..lol - i need to get the brake shoes adjusting on mine when i find time, they apply to hard.

Regards the agi cover, there is a blue centre cover which covers the agi nut and then the large disc is the retaining ring.

Cheers Keith
 
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I am with Louis on this one - I have an irrational love of this machine (and the earlier models with controls on the front which have also been rescued by Darren) and have had since I first saw Keith's around 10 years ago and am so pleased to see it well on its way to full functionality again.

Its a shame that these machines were not more popular back in the day as they were about the same price as a better twin tub (like a Hoovermatic or Supertwin) and would have been a great deal less work to use. But Parnall always seemed to be a smaller scale manufacturer so probably did not have the manufacturing capacity - there was also a fully automatic version of this machine, although it was considerably more expensive - about on a par with the Hotpoint and Servis top loaders.

I believe Parnall to have been the only machine manufactured in the UK to have a suds saving capability, although they approached it rather differently to North America in that the hot suds were retained in the machine and the washes completed consecutively before moving on to rinsing and final spin. I imagine that most users would have rinsed the first load (at least the first rinse) in the sink while the second load was washing just to save time.

Louis, if Mike does not have a close up of the heater and timer controls I can do one for you at the weekend.

It is such a pleasure to welcome friends back for another weekend (although this was a "working" weekend rather than just a "knees-up" like we had back at Halloween) sharing knowledge, stories and generally enjoying each others company which is what it is all about. The only shame is that somehow the clock accelerates and what seemed like a nice long weekend is past in the blink of an eye.

And also so much fun having the Electrolux dishwasher back again, it got several runs over the weekend.

And don't I look ancient - OK, maybe I am - in that picture with Richard (with a smile like that he should be selling toothpaste not dishwashers!) - next time I think I will have to instigate a policy of prior veto before pictures get posted - "Oh that God the gift would gie us ....."

Al
 
Sorry Mike,  I deleted my above post when I realized your were still at work on your interesting thread about the Parnall.  Looks like you had a helpful group with you.  The instructions on how to overflow rinse must of caused a bit of concern, until one got the hang of balancing the incoming water with the pump out rate.  Would this machine of been more about conserving energy for water heating than conserving water? 

Thank You, for sharing the info and pictures.

Arthur
 
Parnall Spinwwasher De-Luxe EWH601H

Hi Louis, glad you like it, I first saw one of these when was 9 yrs old, I was at my aunts new house and as back then newlyweds had everyone elses donations until you could afford new. My Aunt had an old wringer washer and had wrung all my cousins nappies when new neighbour came in and commented on wet nappies " Bring them over and will run them through the Spin Dryer for you to aid drying, So me and my Aunt carried a pile each of said nappies accross the road, when we walked into her kitchen I watched in complete fascination as she "Spun to Save" took her own washing out, loaded the nappies then spun them dry, then while we where folding them she proceeded to pump the saved washwater back in and carried on....I was only used to twinnys and wringers so to see this was the best thing ever ha ha..

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Parnall Spinwwasher De-Luxe EWH601H

Hi Greg, yes all hands make lite work and lots of cakes as well, this top loader spun at 850rpm which was faster than the Servis at 650 but not as fast as the Hotpoint Filter Flow spinning at 1050rpm, saying that tub size and time adds another dimension, I doubt the user would have notices much difference and would have been much relieved like my Aunts neighbour that is was a lot more efficient and pleasant to use than a wringer.The diverter valve is all plastic unlike the hoover and is much simpler when apart, a user replied on Darrens video that the drain plug in hose became worn over time and especially with hot washes and that his mums drain hose regularly shot out causing a huge plume of water up in the air..

Hello Tom, no probs, did you ever use a Thor automagic or similar as a kid? or have one in the family?
 
Hi Mike,

I found the diverter valve a really great design, the inner closing segment sits so snug to the outer chamber closing off the unrequired entry port, bet that took some planning and designing.

I wonder if the MK1 had a similar diverter valve as the lever only went back n forth.
Cheers K
 
Parnall Spinwwasher De-Luxe EWH601H

Hi Al, did you ever see any of these machines in Ireland? When I first observed the "Spin to Save" Sudsaver I always imagined it to be a square box somewhere under the drum that the water was pumped into and then pumped back...its a much simpler design in reality.

Hello Arthur glad you enjoyed the thread, I had my head down posting the pics and txt in the right order and didnt see your original txt. We had a lot of Parnall experience with this gang as Darren had renovated the earlier model with front controls and Mathew, Ian and Austin repair machines and had helped restore the Thor Automagic, along with Al & myself on hospitality we had all bases covered.

I think when Overflow Rinsing yes you would get used to controlling the flow, just enough to flow the soap away, the gap between the bottom of the inner tub and the outer tub base is huge so it would take a vast amount of water before it interferred with the inner tub, have posted a diagram to show.

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Hi Mike, the pump runs all the time even through the washing cycle, just like the Thor Automagic.
No chance of flooding the machine on the rinse. You could either have timed rinse or i think there is a position on the timer for "rinse" and this kept the machine rinising until manually turned off.

Reference Darren's machine, yes the pump lever on the front of the machine.
Keith
 
Spin washer weekend

Mike you have done another great job with this thread !! The weekend with everyone was fantastic and such great fun . It was also interesting working on the mk 11 spin washer as it's somewhat different to the earlier model
The mk11 is far more sophisticated as the switching and valve are interconnected and work with one action. The early model is reliant on the operator. The valve when facing away from the machine drains the tub and when moved to the right operates the suds return. The lever when upright closes the valve The pump on the earlier machine doesn't run all the time as the later model. There is a cable that moves the belt pulley onto the drive wheel of the pump . When I found the machine and did the first water test the only place it leaked was at the valve . The whole cabinet has to be removed to gain access to the switching and valve this involves removing the top and lid. All a bit of a faff !!!! The valve on the mk1 is made of brass and is a little tricky to refurbish . On the mk11 parnall had redesigned the valve and is far more simple and clearly improved
I think it's great that we have examples of these machines in the club. They are such fun to use.
Darren
 
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Mike
A great thread detailing a thoroughly enjoyable weekend. I'm another lover of this machine, wouldn't it be good to find the fully automatic version too. Like you when I first saw pictures of the spinwasher I assumed it had a separate tank that held the water so that you could rinse and spin while holding the wash water. Have you been able to sort the selectromat out yet?
Ian.
 
Hi Ian, now if you came across the fully automatic version that would be something else...they are very rare!! I have a advert for one. They even went as far as the have a feature wherby the drain hose would drain water left in the hose prior to removing it from the socket. I must dig it out :)
K
 
Which?

Here is the Which report on semi-automatics from 1965 - the Parnall as shown here and the English Electric Tumble wash - the latter based on Westinghouse Space Mates

I think its the only time they tested semi-autos and, if you read the paragraph at the end you can see why their days were numbered. I still think one of these would have better than a twin tub

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Hi All...
Just found the advert for the Mk 3 Spin Washer, now this model I think the hot sudsy water was "pumped" to another chamber for holding until required, as per the wording in the advert.
Keith

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Great thread, Thank you All for the illustrations and the review.  Cool to note the English Electric's door could be hinged right or left.   I wonder if the drum in the EE was SS? I remember a picture of an EE with stainless, they did not mention it in "Which" ?   Machines across the pond are fascinating to me.   Thanks..  A

 

Vacbear thanks for posting the "Which" reviews.  A
 
Hi Mike and all.

Was great to see the machine being worked on and to see the enthusiasm of all involved, to get it going again.

A quick aside - I recently purchased the Creda book for 1961 (I think) and it has some lovely photos of the machines that Parnall built and badged up for Creda, as the former 'dipped a toe' into the washing machine and tumble dryer market for the first time!

Paul
 

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