Persil and residue

[helicaldrive]

It is truly amazing what a difference

water chemistry makes. I don't think I use even a tablespoon of 2-in-1 in my SQ FL. And with the Original I just pour it until it's a little bigger than a quarter. And that's with a Culligan water softener. With an extra rinse there's only a barely detectable scent left in clothes. Barely anything.

But today I did some laundry for my mother in a different State, old school full fill top loader, harder water, no water softener, and I ended up pouring in more than 2/3 of a cap before I was satisfied. The water was slippery by then but still no suds until some faint suds started after 15 minutes. Even with a second rinse the scent was very strong. It filled her 1 BR apartment and the clothes smelled strongly. It smells so good.

Anyway it's amazing how the dose can vary depending on water quality, machine, load size and soil level.

 

[helicaldrive]

And

It got some pretty dirty clothes sparkling clean with no fading despite the hard water.

It's a truly amazing product, JMO

 

[richimaor]

Update...

So yesterday I did a small load with some clothes I wore on Friday night out, I used 1/8 of the cap for a small load and suds still being a problem, even in the final rinse it looked like the main wash... The funny part is that clothes didn't come out too sticky, as usual but I can bet that if I rinse them again I will still get detergent out.

 

[jerrod6]

From the looks of the green liquid and your container it might not be the same formula Persil that is being sold to all of the USA. USA Persil is blue and in a different bottle.

I've tried German liquid Persil Universal and it is Soo sudsy in my water so as to be unseable for me.

The blue liquid is different.

 

[richimaor]

I've seen the blue liquid sold in the US, I think it is a different formula too; the green gel has a high grade of viscosity, which I think is what makes it harder to rinse out from laundry.

 

[askolover]

You asked above about Costco's Kirkland detergent.  A few years ago Consumer Reports rated it higher than Tide here in the States.  I used it for a long time in my Asko front loader.  The only reason I stopped was that I no longer have a Costco membership.  Whether it's still the same formula today I do not know.

 

[launderess]

Persil shown above is "German" not the "Dial&#34

Sells here in USA

Green is the color of Persil Kraft "Universal" gel sold in Germany and elsewhere, as PeterH points out the stuff sold here in blue.

To make matters more confusing Persil gel from Germany for colors is blue.

Other tidbits:

Have noticed Persil sold in other markets outside of Germany/Europe have "German technology" written in whatever native language product is sold. Have seen Persil offered in Saudi Arabia, UAE and so forth with same marketing. One does wonder where the stuff is made.

To OP; all Persil gel/liquid products are high in surfactants; that is what gives them their good cleaning ability. Sadly as with any other liquid cleaners using to much and you'll have a hard time rinsing.

 

[mralex]

Being an Ariel detergent user (My grandmother, my mother, and moi) I'm loving the Ariel Excel Gel we have here in UK. It's supposedly good in a 15c/59F wash all the way up to 60c/140F. The one I'm using at the moment is the one with Febreze. I don't know if you guys in the US can find it over there but if you do, try it!  

 

[richimaor]

Askolover: The same Costco Kirkland detergent that is sold in the US is sold in Mexico, that's why I was asking about it, I think I might give it a shot and see how it turns out.

Launderess: So do you think I might be able to deal with the residue problem if I try with Persil powder?

MrAlex: Ariel is one of the most popular detergents in Mexico, and it a really good detergent, the deal with it is that is one of the most expensive detergents you can buy.

 

[launderess]

Have not had the suds issues with Persil (from Germany) powders and megaperls one can have with their gel formulas.

 

[askolover]

Persil

That's funny, I had a hard time dosing with softened water using either German pearls or American liquid.  The pods did fine though...but I've gone back to Tide and Gain for a while (got a great deal at Big Lots). But I do love the smell of Persil!

 

[launderess]

For The Record

We've had this discussion at least once before:
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?47166_1

 

[richimaor]

Launderess: I will definitely try powder then, and thank you for the thread, I'll check it out right now

 

[richimaor]

Update...

I got Persil powder and it did give nice results, got a little sudsy but rinsed out beautifully and there's no sticky film in my clothes... Looks like powder isn't HE so I put 1/4 cup of detergent for a large load and everything came out fresh and clean.

 

[jerrod6]

As far as I know all German Persil is He It's just not marked as such. Persil powder is not sold to the USA. If we want it we have get get it from other countries.

 

[richimaor]

This is the Persil powder sold in Mexico, liquid does have the HE symbol but powder doesn't and suds up more than liquid, so I think this detergent is not HE...
Even when it suds up more than liquid rinse results are pretty good.

 

[launderess]

Again

You will not find "HE" on any Henkel/Persil that is sold/marketed in Europe.
That concept does not exist outside of United States or perhaps North America. In Germany as with much of Europe nearly all detergents are suited for the main type of washing machine design sold on that side of the pond; H-axis.

If Henkel is slapping "HE" on Persil packets sold outside of Europe, then it tells one that the detergent is being marketed differently than say in Germany.

Henkel introduced Persil to Mexico in 2011. That is one of the few Latin American markets Henkel owns the brand rights for Persil. Nearly everywhere else is Unilever's territory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persil

http://www.persil.com.mx/inico.cky.html?alias

As have said Henkel has been on a tear setting up new markets for Persil. The key give away always seems to be some marketing blurb about "Germany Technology" in whatever native language.

The powder shown in above pictures looks exactly like the Persil one purchased off eBay last year in a box with Arabic writing. Where Henkel is making all these different versions of Persil for foreign markets one does not know.

It is interesting that Henkel only released a "cold water active" version of Persil in Canada and Mexico, skipping over the USA.




[this post was last edited: 8/28/2017-03:09]

 

[richimaor]

Omg, I didn't remember those tv commercials until now... but well, I think I'm gonna stay going with Persil powder, it gave me excellent results in every way, just wished it was a bit less sudsy but my final rinse is almost clear so I'm okay with it.

 

[richimaor]

Update

Persil powder is way too awesome, I did a whites load this afternoon and this are my results.

This is my lab coat, it had a grey-ish color caused by not using a good detergent, but today, after a hot wash with Persil universal powder... looks better than brand new.