Persil Wonder Wash - Short cycle detergent liquid - anyone tried/reviewed it?

[novum]

I just picked up a bottle of this new Persil Wonder Wash detergent from Unilever.
It's supposedly designed for short cycles and has a 'Powered by Pro-S technology' label, whatever that means...

Tried it and so far, seems fine. Fairly inoffensive sent and everything came out looking and smelling washed.

https://www.persil.com/uk/laundry/detergent/wonder-wash.html

https://www.unilever.com/news/news-...innovation-taps-into-changing-laundry-habits/

Has anyone found it good, bad or indifferent?

 

[launderess]

For those on this side of the pond and gagging to try Persil Wonder Wash, BritSuperStore has it online.

https://www.britsuperstore.com/usa/browse-by-section/homecare/laundry/persil.html?laundry_section=1841

 

[launderess]

What's in it:

Non-Bio: https://wiop.unilever.co.uk/brands/...aundry-detergent-24933-64312342-300006467693/

Odor Defy: https://wiop.unilever.co.uk/brands/...aundry-detergent-24932-64312340-300006627911/

Ultra Care: https://wiop.unilever.co.uk/brands/...aundry-detergent-24934-64312341-300006627872/

How to use:

Pour 27 ml of Persil Wonder Wash laundry liquid into your washing machine tray for standard (4–5 kg) loads and short cycles (1.5 kg) or when washing in soft/medium water. Use 40 ml for larger (6–8 kg) loads or when washing in hard water. Please refer to the garment’s fabric care label first. Wash dark colours separately.

Always test the colourfastness of any new coloured clothes before pre-treating with neat liquid. Do not use on silk and wool.

 

[launderess]

Directions are confusing.

"...for standard (4–5 kg) loads and short cycles (1.5 kg)"

If short cycle is meant to launder 1.5 kg why is Persil suggesting "standard 4-5 kg load)? Or maybe one is missing something.

On our OKO-AEG Lavamat 88840 pressing "Time Saver" button twice gives a wash cycle with total duration of about 63 minutes. This happens because wash program is shortened including eliminating heating. Having timed this out it main wash is about fifteen to twenty minutes with remaining time used for rinses and spin.

Cottons/Linens/Easy Cares with maximum time savings setting (60 min) according to manual is only meant for max 2.5 kg of synthetic fabrics. So can see how this new Persil might work.

OTOH if one chooses wash temp of 60 or 40 degrees C, cycle times go up to 91 and 88 minutes respectively even with "Time Saver" option engaged.

 

[rolls_rapide]

Reply# 3

I saw it recently. Didn't buy it though.

I think the Pro-S technology is simply meaning that it's easily dissolved/rinsed away.

A standard 4-5kg load is what machines of the 1980s-1990s would class as a full load.

But these days in a modern machine, it would be classed as a half load. 4-5kg would also match the '59 minute' cycles in say, 10kg capacity machines - which obviously are half-loaded. Use 27ml of the detergent.

"short cycles (1.5 kg)" - These are the ultra quick 30mins and 15mins cycles which barely rinse. Apparently you use the same dosage, 27ml.

 

[paulc]

I bought the odour defy and the non bio to try, originally they were only stocked in one supermarket in the UK, now all supermarkets carry the three variants and there has been a TV ad campaign.

The non bio and colour care versions don’t have OBA’s, odour defy version does. There are only three enzymes in the colour care and odour defy versions.

I’ve tried the detergent in the 15min, 20min, and 1hr wash in my machine. The 15 and 20min cycles do two rinses in my machine. The detergents rinsed out well and the results were pretty good on small loads They do smell quite strong , to my nose, but it’s not as unpleasant as some of the detergents sold here. I felt that using the new ordinary Persil Bio liquid gave better results on the 1hour Wash, washing a full 5kg ( 11lb) load but needed three rinses ( I usually do a minimum of three anyway)

Persil Wonder Wash is definitely handy to have, I uses it for washing my little boys school clothes for the next day. For big loads of everyday laundry it’s definitely better using a standard detergent .

 

[stephen]

Scent

Hi. Does anyone know if each of the three different types of Wonder Wash have a different scent, or do they all smell the same?
Thanks!

 

[labboy]

Colour Care. OBAs?

I was visiting family recently in Ireland and saw that Persil Colour Care was on sale. I picked up a bottle then later saw that it contained OBAs.

I was surprised to see this in a Colour Care product. I thought OBAs were not recommended for dark / colored fabrics. I checked the Ariel liquid Color product and didn’t see any reference to OBAs.

I also noticed it had the same dosing as the Persil Wonder Wash product.

Anyone have any explanation as to why it would have OBAs in it?

Bob

Persil Colour Liquid Detergent

To remove tough stains whilst keeping colours bright, try Persil Colour Laundry Washing Liquid Detergent. This laundry detergent will keep colours vibrant…

www.persil.com

 

[DADoES]

 
Colors in general isn't the same as the darks (indigo, navy, black) subset on which OBAs are more of a problem.

 

[mrboilwash]

Darks are actually the least susceptible colors to OBAs. In normal daylight you wouldn`t even notice any difference.
In blacklight like in a nightclub or under bad fluorescent lamps that emit a higher dose of UV rays as they are supposed to things might look different of course.

The most dramatic color changes occur on light pastel colors and off whites when treated with OBAs.

 

[DADoES]

 
I've seen complaints that OBAs make darks/blacks appear "dusty"/faded.  Are the complainers misinterpreting the effect?

 

[mrboilwash]

According to my textbook on detergent chemistry OBAs can be a huge problem on pastels but they don`t have a visible impact on bright and dark colors.

I also remember an older consumer test on color detergents where one of the products contained OBAs. IIRC color protection was no worse than the other products except on pastels which was a fail.

Imagine what traditional ultramarine bluing would do to a pale yellow or a pale pink and how little impact it would have on a deep toned red or black. Fluorescent OBAs apparently act in a similar way.

I think the main cause of a dusty faded look on darks for one is a cheap unstable dye and secondly cheap short fibers that transform any smooth even textile surface into a fluffy pilled mess by the mechanical stress from the washing process.
Fluff doesn`t appear as deep toned as a smooth surface does.
The use of bad colors and fibers is fashion industry`s way of planned obsolescence, though not universal as there is still plenty of high quality stuff out there and it has nothing to do with the price tag.
High end detergents with the enzyme cellulase combat that "dusty" fluff on cellulose based fabrics but can also lead to textile damage when overdone.