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Greg,
Thanks for posting I do have a copy of these Norges - I do of course like the TOL better. My guess is late 60's or early 70's
I knew someone that had a caloric like the TOL Norge (nice machine)
Peter
 
Fraud

Maybe this should be begun as a thread in another forum, but I've had this argument with several lawyers, including my own sister. When a company with a well known brand name has products made by others, to me this is, legally and ethically, Fraud.

Discuss.
 
I recognize that spray arm and those racks....

...I've had two Kenmores with that design. My current apartment sized model still looks similar except all is in plastic now. They wash better than you would think.
 
Ken,

I'm sure each company that contracted with D&M knew they were making machines for other brands. And I think that each company had 1 or 2 minor differences in their products to distinguish itself from the others. So technically speaking, they could get through the fraud loophole.
 
My Sister had a BOL Kenmore front load portable. If you washed the dishes and loaded it, it could manage to wet the dishes, and that was about it. When I was over, and I unloaded it, about 1/2 the time you had to put them back in for another go at it. About the only thing it was good for was to blow the dust off the dishes.LOL
Hugs
David
 
Bajaespuma,

I imagine that's why so many labels today state "distributed by", "sold by", marketed by", etc. to indicate that they may not have manufactured the product. IIRC Kenmore has always said "Sold by Sear, Roebuck & Co.". As long as they don't try to conceal the fact that they didn't make it, it couldn't be considered fraudulent. Guess it goes back to what we were taught in HS business law class, "caveat emptor" or "let the buyer beware".
 
This model seems to be the exception to the rule re: top wash arms. The lower rack on it still has the indent to accommodate the non-existent tubing for an upper wash arm, no?
 
Looks like Kenmore we had

when I was a kid, circa 1979ish. It was the narrow one (18"?) Doesn't look like it from the outside, but the racks, wash arm, and floater all are like I remember
 
BOL vs TOL

I'd love to see that Norge TOL top rack up close. The tiering is fascinating.

We had a 1983 Kenmore with Power Miser model that had three-level wash (lower, middle, constant-rinse) and kicked butt. The only thing irritating about it was its tendency to blow stuff around in the bottom rack, and the odd triangle tines that were used throughout, which were far less convenient than individual stick-tines. It had multiple cutlery trays and bins and a removable section in the top rack.

The *fill-fill-fill-stop* (pause) *doo-WAHHHHHHHH!* sound (usually followed by the sound of clunking, clanking and clattering) of these machines is unmistakable and Tom is right that you will never NOT know when the machine is on unless it's in the dry cycle. (Ours had forced-air drying, btw, and was very nice.)

Ours replaced a late-sixties Mobile Maid, with GE's vertical-axis pump that was a dishwasher in the academic sense. Though MOL, it did a great job only if the dishes went in clean.

Our D&M is still running, even though my grandmother and grandfather passed away in 1998 and 2001 respectively. It's on the verge of collapse from rust in the sump, but has done well for itself with no repairs beyond replacing the forced-air dry fan when the bearings went in the tiny motor that drove the squirrel-cage.

HOWEVER, if you don't have screaming-hot water, you'd be better off washing them by hand. You can either run the Sani-Temp Wash or ramp your water heater--your choice.

I had the BOL Kenmore built-in to play with that a neighbor gave me when I was 11. I had fun with it but found that it only did a good job with things in the bottom rack; it was a little bit of a stretch to expect that machine to clean all the way up to the top with no constant rinse or other help along the way. It was great fun, though.
 

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