Phillips Electra "Spin Drain" 1980`s Washing Machine

[chestermikeuk]

Spin Rinsing

Hi Adam, glad you enjoyed it, I`ll film a wash in it this week, which model was your family machine?? did it have the 1000 or 12000rpm spin??

Mickey, "it looks like a view from an escaped diving bell hurling down into the abyss". yes on steroids...Lol it even beats the Hoovermatic I think...

Hello Tom, this model is only 800rpm which was the norm for the time, although there where 1000rpm /1100rpm & 1200rpm spin machines around as well!!! This model doesnt spin after the wash & every rinse, it washes, does 2 rinses then spin drains before the last rinse, then fabric conditioner rinse & final spin drain...could you imagine the new duets trying this...!!!

This was the golden era of Phillips Washing Machines before being swallowed up by Whirlpool...the rest is history...the subsequent machines where to us, like what you guys felt when WCI changed the Frigidaire`s!!!

 

[lavamat_jon]

Great video Mike, one of my mums friends had this machine but I never saw it on, great to see one working after all these years of wondering

Aren't these the ones that were made in the present White Knight factory?

Jon

 

[favorit]

congrats : nice vid ... and nice washer too !!

Can't imagine your faces when you realized the previous owner had put the shipping bracket back .... LOL

Also commercial old Zanussi washer-extractors spin drain. the odd thing is the spin speed doesn't engage while these machine are tumbling but when the drum is quiet. Very odd, you hear the dump valve click and it's a water drama !

Mike what's that hidden beauty right of this Philips with the open drawer and left of the Servis dept ?

And as for american frontloaders with clean tub cycle, guess they spin with water inside to clean the tub, don't they ?

 

[chestermikeuk]

Phillips Vario

Morning Louis, glad you can see the spin drain rather than hearing it, although with the top loaders you still get the sounds, In 1993 I had the 1100 Phillips Whirlpool toploader, (one with the lift up panel and time/temp/spin vario..and that was fun listening to it!!! Yes, you tell Jetcone nothing wimpy about those motors...LOL

Hi Jon, yes the very factory that White Knight dryers are still made in, the early spin drain machines & Top Loaders where made in the France factories, then Hipperholme was built around the time of the AWB082 / 098 models...

Carlo, yes there is a vid but that wont be shown..it was like the cameraman filming an avalanche, so engrossed in watching the action that you didnt realise you where in it..it worked fine a few times without clothes then on the first wash we couldnt understand why it was so OOB, all you see is 4 hands lurching in camera shot to switch it off!!!

The hidden machine is the ACME Sun Breeze Tumble Dryer, it weighs a ton, all enamel inside & out so doesnt get stacked..LOL

 

[paulinroyton]

Servis MK72

Hi Mike

What a fantastic video and machine. My Mums friend had the Philips version.

I noticed in background the Servis MK72. My Mum had this machine and loved the deed rinses. Any chance on posting a video of the Servis MK72.

Regards

Paul

 

[foraloysius]

Mike

IIRC, those 1100 models work a bit different, isn't it? IIRC they get to a certain speed and stay on that speed for a while until the drum is totally empty and then ramp up. I prefer the older ones like this.

 

[l86810]

Hi Mike,

Mine was the Auto Elite Series 90 with vari Temp and Spin,
It distributed about 200rpm, the rev'd up after about a minute or so. A minute wasn't usually enough to drain out, for a full load, so it used to almost always shoot up to 800rpm full of water.

Mine used to continuously tumble clockwise (for about 2 mins) for the drain after the wash and rinses.

It would complete 2 "long" rinses (only about 5mins) then the 3rd rinse would literally fill and then begin spin-draining. A long spin at 800rpm then fill for the final rinse.

It was the 1000rpm model.

Such amazing machines!

 

[paulinroyton]

Unbalanced Load

Hi Mike.

How does the machine cope with an unbalanced load. By looking at the video, it seems to cope very well, and I don,t think machines from the period had out of balance sensors.

Once again, fantastic video.

Paul

 

[robm]

Hi Mike

Many thanks for posting. That is a fantastic machine. It takes me back to my childhood as my mum had the toploader version (just like Louis's video). It's great to finally see what happened in the drum.

As per my youtube comment I wondered how it copes with suds? I noticed the old Indesits used to get quite sudsy when they spin drained. Do you think the spin drain enhanced or hindered the rinsing process?

Rob

 

[chestermikeuk]

Unbalanced

Hi Paul, it seems fine with most loads I`ve done in it, the older heavier machines seem to cope better with OOB situations as you say, The Servis MK72 is awaiting a cold water valve change then I`ll do a vid, now thats another strong sturdy machines with all that vitreous enamel inn & outer tub as well as the cast iron counterweights,

Louis, you had me thinking about the toploader, will have to find one now to check, from what I remember I`m sure it did the spin drain up to 800, then it went to 1100 for the last two mins of spin etc...was a great machine, I had it installed in a broom cupboard in the hall and above was a shelf with the small Phillips D153 dryer...the bathroom was next door so I used to pull the vent pipe over the doors and hook it to the ventaxia ceiling bathroom extractor..worked a treat!!!

Hi Rob, apologies if I didnt recognise your utube addy,I`ve had no probs with sudz lock in the Phillips, , but I do watch the amount I use, that might be the next test, an OD of powder to make it OOB, I still advocate no spin after the wash drain, the depth between newer machine drums just makes it act like a Mr whippy machine!!!

Hi Adam, interesting programmes, I think the Phillips where well ahead of their time for interesting features & programmes, and I seen so many machines of the same model with very different programmes, I like that they where constantly upgrading as they produced them!!

 

[gansky1]

That's a clean outer drum!

Very cool, Mike, thanks for the video. This is one that has to be seen to be understood. I had a small combo that Steve B gave me that did a spin-drain after the pre-wash cycle. It was quite fun but it had a sensor to stop the machine if the load on the motor was too great.

 

[foraloysius]

Mike

The later models had a different start of the spin cycle. Here's a video of a later model. It starts spinning with a full drum but keeps spinning at that lower speed for a while. Only later, when the drum is empty, it speeds up. There is definitely a difference. The newer ones arer easily recognised, they have the possibility to do a spin only. The older models always have to do a rinse before they can spin.

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[foraloysius]

Paul

I actually don't know about the frontloaders, but my toploader is ver good at balancing. The weight of the toploader is only 59 kgs but I guess the water helps to distribute the laundry evenly. The toploader also has three feet, one at the front and two at the back. Never a problem with getting all feet evenly on the floor. I don't know how many feet the frontloaders have, but I assume they have four.

 

[launderess]

SQ Front Loaders

At local laundromat do a similar thing, but then again they can because there isn't a pump to worry about clogging with too much water too fast.

Not sure if this falls under owner control programming, but the washer will do one or more "tumble one way" rinses, though this happens after a spin while the machine is filling for a rinse. After a period of time the drain valve simply closes and the machine will start filling for the rinse.

 

[aldspinboy]

Love that washer Mike ...800 rpm's is that in the category of spin class D and do you have the new spin classes spec sheet like the 2000 rpm models i left of years ago with 1600 rpm's with a A class rating ?
Just like to keep up with moisture levels and spin speeds thanks.

Darren k.

 

[paulinroyton]

Spin Speeds

Hi Mike.

Cant wait for you to repair the Servis MK72. Memories eh. Does anyone think that fast spin machines tend to be more unrealiable.

Going back in time, in the 1970,s a lot of machines were about 800rpm, or even slower. These slower spin machines seemed to last longer. I remember reading in Which Magazine saying that faster spin machines, 1000rpm, could be more unrealable.

I know the fast spin issue would not effect Miele. My Mums Miele is about 12 years old, 1200rpm, she washer nearly everday, and never broken down.

Regards

Paul

 

[antonrob]

Spin drain

Yes they are great to watch, our Philips AWB098 is in regular use. In the early stages when still full of water the whole front panel of unit flexes with the drum movement. The only down side to these machines is the noise at full RPM, the little Polymotor really screams at full belt compared to modern machines. It would not be a popular machine if you had close neighbours !

 

[chestermikeuk]

Phillips

Hi Greg, yes you do need to view it to understand what drama it gets up to!!! what was the brand of combo??

Thanks Louis for the vids, I think they did a number of spinning & draining options, hyaving watched the above vid, I remember my toploader did the drain like the electra but held at 800 then went to 1100rpm,

Hi Laundress, some of those dump valve commercials really empty like a wave, those Dexters look fun

Darren, yes moisture level content - well not quite zero yet..LOl

Gorenje, MaytagAsko 2,000rpm
Miele & AEG 1800rpm
Zug 1600rpm - Our best sellers tend to be 1400rpm machines

Paul, yes the older with metal tubs did appear last longer, but the newer machines have the bearings either fused or precision fitted so less wear & tear...but they just need to be substantial bearings to last..

Oh AntonRob..dont tease us!!!! get the pics up, those AWB098 series where a very good seller for the independant retailers and the Co-op as well, I sold many at Agri-Electics, and earned myself lots of "Points make Prizes" from the Phillips promotions catalogues.

 

[DysonAnimal]

I remember that one, Mike!

I took a couple of pics of this machine doing it's magic at our last gathering...I thought I had video of it as well, but I can't find the files anywhere. Perhaps I was just transfixed by the V-Zug!!

 

[DysonAnimal]

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