Any thoughts as to what this is?
Pics of a few machines in my basement.
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Last one in the dark.
Last one in the dark.
It's a...
1972 Kenmore 70 series.
Please forgive the tape marks on the lid and detergent dispenser cover. This one was stored for quite some time before I got it and these were taped then. I still need to clean it off.
1972 Kenmore 70 series.
Please forgive the tape marks on the lid and detergent dispenser cover. This one was stored for quite some time before I got it and these were taped then. I still need to clean it off.
Kenmore, of course.
Open wide.
Let's see what's inside.
Let's see what's inside.
Hmmm...
It's a tossup. Which agitator do I like more? Maytag's regular capacity turquoise Power Fin or the gold Kenmore Super Roto Swirl? It's so hard to decide!
This is my 1st functioning Belt Drive and I have to say that I LOVE this machine! It's so quiet, it performs so well. Aside from the color, what's not to love?
It's a tossup. Which agitator do I like more? Maytag's regular capacity turquoise Power Fin or the gold Kenmore Super Roto Swirl? It's so hard to decide!
This is my 1st functioning Belt Drive and I have to say that I LOVE this machine! It's so quiet, it performs so well. Aside from the color, what's not to love?
Here's a curious one.
I took this one in for some repairs, so it's not my machine. It has no series number on it but its features are on par with my '72 70 series. It has a low-post agitator too. Might this be a close relation to the mystery Kenmore Gordon was talking about recently?
I took this one in for some repairs, so it's not my machine. It has no series number on it but its features are on par with my '72 70 series. It has a low-post agitator too. Might this be a close relation to the mystery Kenmore Gordon was talking about recently?
Kenmore!
Real awsome washer. I always loved the roto swirl the best!
Peter
Real awsome washer. I always loved the roto swirl the best!
Peter
Interesting dial.
It combines the 2 dials on my '72 70 series for 2nd rinse and soak vs. soak & wash into this one Cycle Modifier dial.
This was on CL months ago. I inquired about buying it thinking from the ad it was a Lady K Electronic. In communicating with the owner, she had purchased it new and loved it but it broke recently so her husband got her a new one. She still loves it and when she found out that I restore vintage appliances she said she would love for me to repair it for her. It's presently in line.
When it spins, I can smell a burning smell. Also, when the spin engages, the motor lags to the point of almost stalling. It slows down so much that the start windings come on again. The belt is a tiny bit loose but not too far out of spec. The belt's also just a smidge above the rim of the pulley so it seems to be properly positioned and not excessively worn. I'm thinking the pump might be seized.
It combines the 2 dials on my '72 70 series for 2nd rinse and soak vs. soak & wash into this one Cycle Modifier dial.
This was on CL months ago. I inquired about buying it thinking from the ad it was a Lady K Electronic. In communicating with the owner, she had purchased it new and loved it but it broke recently so her husband got her a new one. She still loves it and when she found out that I restore vintage appliances she said she would love for me to repair it for her. It's presently in line.
When it spins, I can smell a burning smell. Also, when the spin engages, the motor lags to the point of almost stalling. It slows down so much that the start windings come on again. The belt is a tiny bit loose but not too far out of spec. The belt's also just a smidge above the rim of the pulley so it seems to be properly positioned and not excessively worn. I'm thinking the pump might be seized.
Timer.
Like the title says...
Like the title says...
How does Automatic work?
Temp selector.
I like the Warm/Warm setting. You won't find that anymore.
Temp selector.
I like the Warm/Warm setting. You won't find that anymore.
Needs a bath after storage.
What is the blocky thing in the back left corner of the lid opening?
Oh yes, this one will DEFINITELY be getting some new lid hinge bushings!
That's it for tonight,
Dave
What is the blocky thing in the back left corner of the lid opening?
Oh yes, this one will DEFINITELY be getting some new lid hinge bushings!
That's it for tonight,
Dave
Dave -
That is one beautiful 1972 70 series! It's pristine!
On the second Kenmore, the block you asked about is part of a mechanical, solenoid activated detergent dispenser.
It's odd, I was just looking at this model in a catalog tonight, and yes, it is essentially the machine I was trying to describe in my mystery post a week or two ago. The one I had in mind has the older style print layout, but it's this in a nutshell.
This machine is a 1981 Kenmore 80 series. There was a 1983 model which said "80 Series" above the Heavy Duty Plus designation and it had a triple dispenser. These machines are rather rare compared to their contemporaries.
Good luck with them!
Gordon[this post was last edited: 5/5/2010-02:18]
That is one beautiful 1972 70 series! It's pristine!
On the second Kenmore, the block you asked about is part of a mechanical, solenoid activated detergent dispenser.
It's odd, I was just looking at this model in a catalog tonight, and yes, it is essentially the machine I was trying to describe in my mystery post a week or two ago. The one I had in mind has the older style print layout, but it's this in a nutshell.
This machine is a 1981 Kenmore 80 series. There was a 1983 model which said "80 Series" above the Heavy Duty Plus designation and it had a triple dispenser. These machines are rather rare compared to their contemporaries.
Good luck with them!
Gordon[this post was last edited: 5/5/2010-02:18]
Kenmoreguy64's thread.
The link is what the title says.
Gordon, this looks to be EXACTLY the machine and console for which you are looking. Sorry, but it's not mine to give. The only differences I can tell are the water level control is infinite instead of having 5 selections as you described. There is also no number on it at all to indicate 80 or 90 series.
Model: #110-82183110
Serial: #C21914437
Stock: #21831
Strange,
Dave
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?28009
The link is what the title says.
Gordon, this looks to be EXACTLY the machine and console for which you are looking. Sorry, but it's not mine to give. The only differences I can tell are the water level control is infinite instead of having 5 selections as you described. There is also no number on it at all to indicate 80 or 90 series.
Model: #110-82183110
Serial: #C21914437
Stock: #21831
Strange,
Dave
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?28009
Detergent Dispenser?
Where would that be?
It's got the FS and LCB dispensers just like my '72 70 Series, but there is no detergent dispenser I've found. My '72 has one to the right of the lid. This has just a solid panel there. How does it work?
I'm going to bed now. I'll check this thread in the morning,
Dave
Where would that be?
It's got the FS and LCB dispensers just like my '72 70 Series, but there is no detergent dispenser I've found. My '72 has one to the right of the lid. This has just a solid panel there. How does it work?
I'm going to bed now. I'll check this thread in the morning,
Dave
Dave -
The removable reservoir fits over the little block. This is a dry dispenser as compared to the water powered one in your '72.
When activated, the solenoid under the top activates a spring loaded door in the dispenser and it opens to allow powdered detergent to fall into the machine.
As I suspected the stock and model numbers for this machine indicate that it is an 80 series. 21831 is means a 1981, 29-inch, 80-series, third in series, white. It's 1983 cousin machine is a 23811.
BTW - you can fix the lid angle by opening the top, and bending the rear hinge back with a pair of plyers. Hold the lid steady while you do that and bend it straight back to the right.
Too bad that machine is not available!
Gordon
The removable reservoir fits over the little block. This is a dry dispenser as compared to the water powered one in your '72.
When activated, the solenoid under the top activates a spring loaded door in the dispenser and it opens to allow powdered detergent to fall into the machine.
As I suspected the stock and model numbers for this machine indicate that it is an 80 series. 21831 is means a 1981, 29-inch, 80-series, third in series, white. It's 1983 cousin machine is a 23811.
BTW - you can fix the lid angle by opening the top, and bending the rear hinge back with a pair of plyers. Hold the lid steady while you do that and bend it straight back to the right.
Too bad that machine is not available!
Gordon
BTW Dave - I can't get over how beautiful your '72 is. You really nabbed a NICE washer! Congrats.
Gordon
Gordon
rollermatic
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enjoyed your pics
of that beautiful 72 kenmore! the control panel is really awesome looking! i admit harvest gold was always my least favorite 70's appliance color too but now, compared to the boring, uncreative colors they offer today i think it's great!
i had a belt drive kenmore of the same era when i lived at my old house in norwood. a friend had given it to me and it ran beautifully for years! like an idiot i decided to get a new washer and threw it out! that was long before i discovered the joy of appliance collecting.
your maytag pair looks incredible too!
of that beautiful 72 kenmore! the control panel is really awesome looking! i admit harvest gold was always my least favorite 70's appliance color too but now, compared to the boring, uncreative colors they offer today i think it's great!
i had a belt drive kenmore of the same era when i lived at my old house in norwood. a friend had given it to me and it ran beautifully for years! like an idiot i decided to get a new washer and threw it out! that was long before i discovered the joy of appliance collecting.
your maytag pair looks incredible too!
Dave -
I shouldn't be writing replies on AW.org after sleeping for 4 hours on the sofa - lack of coherent thought.
There were four things I wanted to tell you above that I forgot:
1) The black panel Kenmore was made during the 19th week of 1982.
2) Oddly, there were no series indicators on 1981 and 1982 model Kenmores. The previous 1976-1980 models had them, and the 1983-1986s did too, but not the 81 and 82s.
3) The burning smell is very possibly the belt moving over a seized pump pulley, so you are quite correct about that. It could be other things too, but based on what you said about the motor nearly stalling out in spin start, that's a good sign. You should be able to determine the operability of the pump pretty easily, and they're inexpensive.
4) The Automatic temperature feature was called "Auto plus 5" by Sears and is simply an override switch that activates or de-activates timer controlled temps that work like the older alphabet washers of the 60s and the BOL machines of the 80s an up where the timer position sets the temperature. In this case, if you don't like the automatic setting, you can set your own using the manual five selections. This was available with most mid-70 series and higher belt-drive Kenmores from the early 80s. Most models of that time used one of four timers, and two of them were capable of the Auto +5.
Gordon
I shouldn't be writing replies on AW.org after sleeping for 4 hours on the sofa - lack of coherent thought.
There were four things I wanted to tell you above that I forgot:
1) The black panel Kenmore was made during the 19th week of 1982.
2) Oddly, there were no series indicators on 1981 and 1982 model Kenmores. The previous 1976-1980 models had them, and the 1983-1986s did too, but not the 81 and 82s.
3) The burning smell is very possibly the belt moving over a seized pump pulley, so you are quite correct about that. It could be other things too, but based on what you said about the motor nearly stalling out in spin start, that's a good sign. You should be able to determine the operability of the pump pretty easily, and they're inexpensive.
4) The Automatic temperature feature was called "Auto plus 5" by Sears and is simply an override switch that activates or de-activates timer controlled temps that work like the older alphabet washers of the 60s and the BOL machines of the 80s an up where the timer position sets the temperature. In this case, if you don't like the automatic setting, you can set your own using the manual five selections. This was available with most mid-70 series and higher belt-drive Kenmores from the early 80s. Most models of that time used one of four timers, and two of them were capable of the Auto +5.
Gordon
The detergent cover
Like the LCB / FS dispensers, the detergent compartment trim and cover are colored plastic, not painted.
The only problem on the washer is the LCB and FS dispenser solenoids. They work, but they can really growl, to the point where it sometimes sounds like an OOB buzzer. I know the solenoids are still listed, but naturally they aren't cheap! Are these just generic solenoids, or are they specific to WP made dispensers?
It purrs like a kitten though,
Dave
Like the LCB / FS dispensers, the detergent compartment trim and cover are colored plastic, not painted.
The only problem on the washer is the LCB and FS dispenser solenoids. They work, but they can really growl, to the point where it sometimes sounds like an OOB buzzer. I know the solenoids are still listed, but naturally they aren't cheap! Are these just generic solenoids, or are they specific to WP made dispensers?
It purrs like a kitten though,
Dave
mickeyd
Well-known member
"Aside from the color, what's not to love?"
David, I love bronze and gold night shots, among the richest in de vorld. That thing is elfin' gorgeous.
And the one with the options selector, a soak to wash Kenmore--Egads!-- a dream machine. Why not make the owner an offer, esp. if the repair gets expensive.
Here's some bronze for you to make your day Easy :->
David, I love bronze and gold night shots, among the richest in de vorld. That thing is elfin' gorgeous.
And the one with the options selector, a soak to wash Kenmore--Egads!-- a dream machine. Why not make the owner an offer, esp. if the repair gets expensive.
Here's some bronze for you to make your day Easy :->
cycla-fabric
Well-known member
Kenmore 72 Washer
We had the matching dryer to that washer. It worked well had soft heat and 2 1/2 hour wrinkle guard, and it was quiet to boot. Enjoy the washer, I remember CR tested that machine and said that the roto swirl was too gentle and didn't clean that well. The machine landed in the lower part or the ratings. But neverless a great machine for Kenmore lovers.
Doug
We had the matching dryer to that washer. It worked well had soft heat and 2 1/2 hour wrinkle guard, and it was quiet to boot. Enjoy the washer, I remember CR tested that machine and said that the roto swirl was too gentle and didn't clean that well. The machine landed in the lower part or the ratings. But neverless a great machine for Kenmore lovers.
Doug
Dryer.
I would LOVE to know more about the matching dryer to the '72 70 series. It has no mate right now. If one fell into my lap for next to nothing I'd be thrilled. Bonus points if it's gas.
I don't even know what the control panel looked like,
Dave
PS: I'm running a load of white towels in it right now, with Gain Original powder. Hot wash, warm rinse so the smell will waft through the house. They'll have to be dried in the DE806 I just finished refurbishing last night though. Maybe I'll open a window above the vent to get more of that nice Gain smell.
I would LOVE to know more about the matching dryer to the '72 70 series. It has no mate right now. If one fell into my lap for next to nothing I'd be thrilled. Bonus points if it's gas.
I don't even know what the control panel looked like,
Dave
PS: I'm running a load of white towels in it right now, with Gain Original powder. Hot wash, warm rinse so the smell will waft through the house. They'll have to be dried in the DE806 I just finished refurbishing last night though. Maybe I'll open a window above the vent to get more of that nice Gain smell.
Matching dryer
Dave -
Courtesy of Andy / RedCarpetDrew, here is a picture of a dryer panel that matches your machine. I have seen dryers of this model on here from time to time, including not too long ago.
There were a lot of variations on this dryer in 1972. Starting with a 60-series model without temperature adjustments and signal switches, then another with an adjustable heat option. The next step up was this machine which has the lighted panel, the same timer (which offers an auto termination cycle, timed, and air), a cycle signal adjustment, variable heat, and probably a drum light. It had a full-width door too.
I hope this helps Dave!
Gordon
Dave -
Courtesy of Andy / RedCarpetDrew, here is a picture of a dryer panel that matches your machine. I have seen dryers of this model on here from time to time, including not too long ago.
There were a lot of variations on this dryer in 1972. Starting with a 60-series model without temperature adjustments and signal switches, then another with an adjustable heat option. The next step up was this machine which has the lighted panel, the same timer (which offers an auto termination cycle, timed, and air), a cycle signal adjustment, variable heat, and probably a drum light. It had a full-width door too.
I hope this helps Dave!
Gordon
Is that panel available?
Or has it long-since been scrapped?
Gotta go switch the wash,
Dave
Or has it long-since been scrapped?
Gotta go switch the wash,
Dave
Pic 433184, if you selected soak wash and 2nd rinse, did the dial continue to off, or stop prior to the second rinse? I have never seen that snap on dispenser, i have seen the block it attaches to. Where these dispensers kind of "rickety" and discarded or just "lost" over the years? thanks, Nice Kenmores alr2903
As long as the 2nd rinse was selected in some form, the dial went all the way to off. If no 2nd rinse option combination used, then the dial stopped at 2nd rinse as the "off" position.
Dial operation.
If 2nd rinse is set to off and you advance the timer into the 2nd rinse section, nothing happens, even the timer light stays dark! If you leave the timer in 2nd rinse and turn the 2nd rinse switch to on, the washer comes to life.
What does this non-pumped, solenoid-operated detergent dispenser look like? I've never heard of one, much less seen one.
Dave[this post was last edited: 5/5/2010-23:26]
If 2nd rinse is set to off and you advance the timer into the 2nd rinse section, nothing happens, even the timer light stays dark! If you leave the timer in 2nd rinse and turn the 2nd rinse switch to on, the washer comes to life.
What does this non-pumped, solenoid-operated detergent dispenser look like? I've never heard of one, much less seen one.
Dave[this post was last edited: 5/5/2010-23:26]
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