Playing with the LG 3570 and it's app

[mattl]

I picked up an LG 3570 for a relative the other day and was playing around with it in the garage before it moves on.  I was pretty impressed with the water level and wash action.  I tossed in a couple of fleece jackets and a bit of Tide and ran it through the Normal cycle.  Got to say I'm jealous my duets don’t have the turbo wash system, I think it's great idea. 

 

Anyway I saw the NFC connection and downloaded the app on my phone.  Really kind of neat, and very much overkill, I have no reason to control my washer from half way across the globe.  I did find it interesting that I could download a number of cycles that are not included on the stock machine.  I appears only 1 can be held in memory at a time and if I replace Beach Wear with New Clothes- Beach Wear is gone.  Also lots of info, last cycles used, number of washes, time till tub cleaning, stain removal guide and cycle suggestions for various scenarios.  Lot of info there.  The NFC was touchy, if I was off by only a little it did not connect.

 

I did not look to see if there was a iPhone app, was my cousin has an iPhone vs. my android,  anyone else explore the app?  I have not seen much posted here about it.

 

[nmassman44]

That phone feature and app does not work with anything Apple. And you really can't control the washer or dryer over the internet. I thought that too when I bought them but nope it was wishful dreaming. The app only works with Android and with an NFC featured phone. I bought my LG G3 phone just for that reason. That app is kinda neat where it will show you all the faults that have occurred as well in the diary section. It also does the self diagnoses as well. I have used the app a few times.
The washer is very fun to use and is my daily driver as well as the dryer. It does use plenty of water in my opinion yet no where near what my SQ toplaoder used per load and all around performance is much better than the SQ washer. And my water bill reflected the savings that I am enjoying now. Not to mention the electric bill as well.
I use the TurboWash with every load and activate the feature for Bright Whites and Towels. On Cotton Normal, its the default setting. I also love the high speed spray rinsing in the final spin as well.

 

[mattl]

Decided to try a Cold wash to see if there really are 6 motions, didn't see them.  I tossed in a large 10' long tablecloth I had sitting around and a bit of Tide, wow, suds city.  I was curious to see how the LG handled suds lock.  By time the wash cycle was done the tub was half filled with suds - from just 2-3 tablespoons of Tide.  After the wash cycle ended the machine went into a slow spin repetitive cycle.  Easily 5+ minutes it would spin slowly, collapse some of the suds and repeat it over and over, it never added water.  Finally it went into the rinse cycle and very surprisingly there was little if any evidence of the extreme suds, water looked fairly clear.  Call me impressed.

 

[appnut]

I thinik the early days of modern FLers, suds lock did have water added.  My Duet has done suds lock about 5 times, it basically did what you've described.  No water added.  Just slow spin and tossing the load back & forth in short tumble patterns. 

 

[murando531]

The one reason I wouldn't mind being able to control my appliances with an app would be to keep track of when it's being used, when it has been used, and what cycles were used. Especially for someone as particular as I am with my machines. And if I could lock them out with a passcode? That would be the bee's knees. We have this roommate that I'm ready to kick out because before he moved in (by his request by the way) I set the rule that he either A. puts his clothes in the hamper and I'll wash everything together, and trust me, his clothes couldn't be in better care, B. he spends enough time with me where I can show him the Do's and Don'ts and I can catch any bad habits he has until I'm comfortable with him using the washer and dryer, or C. he can take his stuff to the laundromat. I'll even send him a link to Google Maps.

So far things have been decent, except that he seems to think that jeans and the like need to be washed when they still smell like detergent, and he also thinks that he needs to put his clothes, literally just a shirt and some pants or so, into the dryer for 20 minutes at least 3-4 times a day to "freshen" them up, it could be normal clothes or gym clothes, doesn't matter. I put a stop to that real quick. We bought him a portable steamer and I explained that all the dryer is doing is baking any body oils, sweat, and any odors he's been around into the fabric, as well as baking the fibers themselves because there's no moisture to dissipate the heat. And yet he says he's "particular about his clothes". Okay. He can do what he wants, in his house with HIS machines, but here that's not how it works. That's just a bunch of unnecessary wear on my machine not to mention the energy it takes to heat up in the short amount of time, only for the machine to be stopped at peak temp just to waste away into the house that we're already trying to keep cool.

So, if I could passcode lock my machines with an app? You better believe I would. That way I don't have to worry about him sneaking around when we're not here. Although I did tell him that with the diagnostics modes on both the washer and dryer that I could tell how many cycles had been run since the last diag. run, and he knows no better.

 

[mark_wpduet]

I think it would be cool

to be able to see what cycles were used and how many overall cycles the washer has completed (like a counter)

I wish Whirlpool/Maytag did have a Turbo wash too because I think the LG's are such cool looking machines and they do more than the WP/Maytag FL washers

 

[nmassman44]

The thing with the TurboWash feature is that it is very effective in adding to the wash/rinse action of the washer. It also uses just the right amount of water too and recirculates that water so all the detergent solution is used. Its especially handy when using the Persil PowerPearls where it dissolves the detergent thoroughly unlike in the Frigidaire built front loader where the detergent goes into the sump and sits there not doing anything.
Rinsing in the washer is superb. The first spin does have a spray rinse but half way thru the pump shuts off and the drum will generate some suds. The washer will stop and then add water to drain the suds away. Once the suds have been taken care of, it will then turn the jets on and spray the water onto the load and add water for rinsing. The washer uses more water for rinse cycles than the wash segment. If you add rinses and you can add up to 3 extra, it will do a spray rinse with every spin portion. The final spin will use a 2 minute spray rinse thats uses atomized water and jets from the top of the drum opening and covers the whole depth of the drum. Nothing is missed and that jet flushes the load at high speed, pulling the water thru the fabrics. Odd thing is though, on the Towels cycle that final jet rinse does not happen. And I think on the Bright Whites as well, it doesn't happen...on Cotton/Normal it does. I do use Cotton/Normal for most loads and its also the fastest cycle too. I can also wash whites in that cycle and there isn't any difference in performance. I just use the Normal/heavy soil setting to add some time to the wash cycle.
The other thing one will notice is that when the jets do come on in the wash cycle , the drum will speed up and do a Catalyst action of spraying the detergent solution onto the load and pulling it thru the fabrics, then it adds more water until the washer is satisfied with the water level. The washer is a lot of fun yet very effective.

 

[mark_wpduet]

I wonder why Whirlpool doesn't do something like this?

I know my Duet is cool in that it spins and adds rinse water at the same time. As rinse water is filling the drum, it slowly spins as water is sloshing through the clothes stuck up against the drum for about 2 to 3 minutes until it stops to tumble. That is really good rinsing. It also does it on the 2nd rinse too (but not as long). But from what I understand, Whirlpool even took that AWAY from the newer duets and they just stop spinning and fill/tumble normally.

 

[a440]

Mark I really don't understand why they took this "spray rinse" away.  My HE3T is the first generation and the "spray rinse" actually started at the top RPM's of the spin.  It then gradually decreases spin speed and does the 2 minute "catalyst cleaning" rinse. 

With the new tubs and so few holes....I don't understand why there is not some type of recirculation.  I always thought more holes in the tube meant more dirt going into the sump waiting to be pumped away.

Below is the new tub.  Look how few holes!  There are no holes in the back of the tub.  The items in the wash are sloshing away in their own dirty water.  I don't get it.

B

 

 

 

[mark_wpduet]

Yep

My duet starts adding water at the high rpm and slows down as the water is constantly being added and keeps spinning slowly as it fills with rinse water until it finally stops to tumble..I love that about my machine....Today I was washing a load and I had to go through the laundry room to the garage to get something and it happened to be on the final spin and it sounded so smooth and perfect, even at over ten years old. I hope it lasts me another 5 years at least (but I doubt it)

 

[a440]

Mark it will last many more years.  You could have issues like the pump, or seal, or belt needing to be replaced but you can do all of these replacements yourself.  It is a very easy machine to work on. 

 

[mattl]

Well I got curious today and hooked up some hot water to the LG.  Tossed a load of towels in the unit and let it do it's thing.  Surprisingly a fair amount of water, and quite a bit of action.  I was surprised to see it "flip" the towels a few times well into the wash cycle.  I'm liking this machine more and more, wish it was mine.

 

[mattl]

I was a little disappointed when I took the towels out of the machine -- they were all plastered against the tub!  Even on the top.  I really appreciate my Duet that gently tumbles and fluffs the material in the machine.  One demerit for LG.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

LG!

My lg built Kenmore does the exact same thing on the normal/casual with accelawash active by default. I always use accelawash on whitest whites with impeccable results. The matching dryer does get a decent amount of heat on the normal cycle with medium heat. Yes, it does have a jeans/khakis cycle. it uses medium heat for 35 minutes, whereas normal on the dryer lasts approx. 41 minutes. The wash time matches the dry time depending on what the load size is being sensed. The washer's normal/casual cycle lasts anywhere from 26-53 minutes with accelawash active by default.