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I have just got rid of my bosch Exceel 1400 and replaced it with the new hoover Vision HD1400. The bosch had terrible rinse performance and the final fast spin was crap. I've only had the new vision for a few days so have only run the A59min cotton wash - but i'm very pleased. It's a fast A standard wash that is completed in under an hour. The rinses are huge - with the water level coming half way up the door. It's quieter than the bosch (as Rob M said mine also had a very high pitched screetch to the spins) and the final spin is impressive with the clothes coming out much dryer than the bosch. I was also suprised how damn heavy it was compared to the bosch - Very early days - but I'm impressed!
 
Steve, can I ask how old your Bosch was please? I'm trying to work out whether the new ones are no good or just the ones from a few years ago. I'm aware the Bosches of 2002-2004 era had garbage rinsing and were had high pitched spins, what I'd really love to know is have they improved.....obviously if you're describing a current model the answer is `no'!!

As can be seen further up in this thread, we now seem able to get 5 rinses, high level rinses.....perhaps things have improved??
 
bosch improvements

bosch have improved somewhat since 2000. The 2003 model which I have is rather crap at rinsing with enimic water levels and no way to improve them despite it being the top of the range model. However the 2006 model which I have aswell is much better. Aqua plus does not bad and there are more programmes like "sports wear " that provide high level rinsing and washing whilst still having high spin speeds. Further I find with the easy care cycle with aqua plus selected I can get a good splashy 60 degree wash and reasonable rinse with a 1200 spin.
 
Washers....

Hi Nick

Lots of nice options to look at and choose from...

The Miele would be a long term option, solid, reliable, & flexible programmes, and the work you`ve done with your Hotpoint certainly entitles you to aspire to a Miele!!!

I do like the AEG range, Jon from Brum, has the L86810 and I find it a great machine to use, the directa jet gives a great splashy action and the vented dryer is one of the best I have seen for capacity, style, and functionality...

I would promote the Maytag Asko as "The Best",(IMMPHO) its very functional with programmes, quiet on wash, not so quiet on spin but I like to hear that, it does high level washes but the rinses dont come up the door, just senses if it needs more to clear the sudz, 95d quick wash, 1600 spin in 1 hr 19m, contrary to popular belief, IF you need servicing its covered by own engineers and havnt heard any probs about delays etc...I wont reccomend this machine as I am quite happy being in the unique position as being the only one from the club owning one...LOL

Cheers, Mike
 
Mike, great to hear about the engineers for Maytag, I've only heard that the service was quite patchy. Only thing is you're making me want a Maytag again and there really isn't enough room in my utility room :-).

(with the Maytag, I think I might have a Bosch Logixx 8, a Hotpoint Aquarius just for fun, and a square door Hoover to go with that).

Jon
 
Well, it's been narrowed down to a Bosch Loxixx 8 (£411) or a Miele Premier 520 (£472). The budget could go a little higher if need be but I don't really think it needs to. If I were to increase the budget it would be to get the cheapest Miele with induction motor for noise reasons (Jon, I forgot the model number you told me and the Miele literature I have doesn't tell me, which is the cheapest induction model again? Needs to be `old skool' no sloping fascia as going under a worktop...)

Went it to an independent appliance retailer in Chelmsford yesterday who suggested the Bosch were an infinitely better choice than the Miele because they are far more serviceable. I found that to be a surpising take on things......

Nick
 
Nick!
The logixx 8 is a really nice looking and interesting model! Huuuge drum too!That is surprizing that the independant retailer said the bosch are more serviceable! I hope you find a model that you will be happy with!

Darren
 
Nick, I've heard good things about those visions! I had a six 1600rpm n tht was really quiet on 1600! I've heard they put in a hell of alot of water of 59min prog. and theirs the powerjet. I would definately consider it!

Darren
 
I've just bought the Hoover vision 1400 and it's a superb machine. Heaps of different wash rythems, the A 50 min wash has huge water level rinses and the spin is great. pretty quiet compared to the Bosch Excel machine I had ( I had thought about the 1600i model with the inverter motor , but I like to hear the spin cycle)All in All an awesome machine. GO for it...
 
Nick,

The cheapest induction motor Miele have with the flat fascia is the W3922 which is the model mum has, retails from around £830 online. However my W2652 has the standard motor and while it is slightly louder, it is still virtually silent and the most noise you hear in the wash is the water sloshing about.

I've seen my friends Premier 520 going a few time before, and while it is definitely more audible than our Miele, it is quieter than his old AEG 74630, which itself was a quiet machine.

I can't say how difficult maintenance is between Bosch and Miele as I've never opened either one up inside, but I would imagine the dealer was telling you that simply because he probably gets more call-outs to the Bosch machines :-).

Jon
 
I dont know about bosch

But Miele still has an independant chassis under the cabinet.

I had to have the top springs replaced on my 2515, and was amazed at how simple the process is now.

Two Screws remove the work top. Two Screws, remove the front panel (Which is hinged and swings open) 4 screws to remove each side panel.

So you end up with access to all of the components, without having to tip the machine up. I was amazed at the access they provide now, as with the previous models the cabinet/chassis was integral.

It's easy to get in there and replace parts, however be prepared once out of warranty, that if you need anything, it'll cost a small fortune.
 
Hi Lewis, welcome to the site. The people on this site are great, we're a really friendly bunch. I hope you enjoy hanging out here and thanks for the advice, I probably will go for the Miele.

Nick
 
Say YAY for Miele!

WOO HOO! Double Celebration........ Cracks open another bottle of Cab Sauv!

Well it is a Saturday night and im not working!

Nick
 
Servicability

Hmm, he may have been right. Stop, hold on, put down those flames!
Look at it this way. The average Bosch needs repairing every eight years or so. Nothing big, but that is the average.
But it is rare indeed for a Miele built in the 1960's to fail, ever. Ones from the 1970's usually had a problem about the 20-22 year mark.
Same with the 80's.
So all this guy knows are the old porcelain cabinets, and yes, they were a pain to work on.
Go with the Miele. Forget the noise issue - neither the Hoover nor the Bosch nor the Miele is loud enough in any variation to be "loud".
The £61 difference is worth it.
 
Thanks for the input Panthera.

Nick - have a glass for me! No wine in the house tonight, am reduced to Malibu + Coke, feel like a teenager again!

How are you getting on with your other bottles of bubbly, I will go and get some as soon as it comes out. I'm hoping thecolour liquid will be a great pretreater to rival Ariel as it's double concentrated. Anyway, that's a different thread. Enjoy your Saturday night now and go easy on that wine, and here's some advice from past experience - if you're on the second bottle, it's not a good idea to go on the roof and adjust the TV aerial.

Nick
 
LMAO

What can I say?

At the end of the 1st bottle if im truthful but earlier I was prepared to go out and get another one, now I cant be arsed.

Now its Gin and Tonic (bombay sapphire) so slightly more sophisticated I guess, teenager drinking sessions for me used to be K Cider and 20/20 no doubt the reason why I depend upon spectacles to see clearly...........

Ive got no washing to do but the Persil S&M got me thru a washday no probs.
I cant help but feel there should be a version for those kinky PVC catsuits called Persil BD s and ..........

Oh dear

Nick
 
Woooooooo Lewis!!! Welcome to the site.. someone else from Essex!

Yer, go for a Miele Nick, mines great! You can always come round and see mine if you wanna try before you buy!!! :o)
 

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