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brucelucenta

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Whirlpool made a very well built and conceived machine from the very beginning. Sears recognized that too and had them build Kenmore. Smart move on their part and it helped Whirlpool gain control of the entire appliance market today. They always made a good washing machine and the design in many ways was before it's time. They were the first and only machine that had a true perforated tub and outer tub and wisely neutral drained before going into spin. They made very fine machines that worked well and lasted longer than most other machines. This particular model and era had the pop up lid when you pushed the button on the front of the washer. I think the dryer did too. No wonder Whirlpool is the leader of the industry in the USA today.
 
This is a design I wish Whirlpool had stayed with. Before coming to this site originally in 2003 I had never known such machines existed . It makes me wonder if Maytag was influenced by WP for their own control panel design that came in 57? or 56? ...you Maytag folks know.

As you said brucelucenta, these were well built machines and I loved this control panel design. My second favorite from WP was the 1958 Imperial Mark 12 with the timeline control. A gorgeous machine I hope one day turns up NIB for a lover of WP/KM machines.

I remember reading a post on YouTube about Roberts 57 unused Lady Kenmore, that one poster said that you could rebuild an engine on the cabinet of these washers as they were seriously overbuilt. They certainly look like they were.

I just read the advertisement again. It says this washer unties knots. Was that a veiled jab at Frigidaire ? ;-)[this post was last edited: 10/18/2017-16:19]
 
The Whirlpool Belt Drive washers were built really well, but they were difficult to service. If Whirlpool really wanted to, they could have kept the belt drive transmission they used for many years, they could have simply modified the Direct Drive washer so it would fit.
 
turquoisedude,....are these machines as heavy as they look ? Or heavier? lol. But seriously though, did Inglis have a version of these in the fifties ? I vaguely remember someone saying they did but am not sure.
 
Oh, they're heavy alright...  I realized when I got them home back in fall of 2011 that I was alone to unload them from the truck I had rented (I had help loading them).  I still don't know how on earth I did it.... LOL 
 
Whirlpools

Are hard to work on, BUT they have to be worked on less than just about anything else,To my mind they are hard to beat, they wash better, rinse better, and are much less likely to get out of balance than just about anything else.
 
"Oh, they're heavy alright... I realized when I got them home back in fall of 2011 that I was alone to unload them from the truck I had rented (I had help loading them). I still don't know how on earth I did it.... LOL "

Gravity Paul... Gravity... LOL And you were younger, stronger and prettier then : )

I am thinning still as I can't move these machines like I could 4 years ago.

Down to 3 washers, 3 dishwashers and 1 range : /
 
Speaking of washing performance to anyone who knows. How did WP rate overall in the fifties in CU ratings ? Were they near the top of the ratings ? Or were they usually middle of the pack ?
 
Whirlmore & Kenpool were usually somewhere in the middle. They weighed a ton in comparison to the DD models. Would have been great if they were easier to service. Just changing a belt was a major ordeal! I always thought them excellent at washing, but only fair at spinning out. The wash was somewhat damp in comparison to most other machines. And yes, that thing about the untangling knots was a jab at Frigidaire! I could easily hate turquoisedude for having a set of these beauties!
 
Fifties CR Ratings

I have the 2/50 issue of CR but they only test five 'semi-automatics': a Bendix squeezer is the top rated (and they say that an all-auto model is going to come out), a Thor and two twin-tub Easys.

However, I have the 8/58 CR that has a major washer test. The top tier in that issue are the Frigidaire "Ultra-Clean Imperial" (their quotation marks) WI-58 at $339.95, then the second place is the WCI-58, listed as the same machine with an all-porcelain finish and additional water temperature settings for $364.95. They note that the same machine is available in a suds saver model for $389.95.

The third place machine is the Maytag 142 at $379.95. "A good all around machine with good sand disposal ability, but its performance fell somewhat short of that of the Frigidaires in other respects. This was the quietest of all machines tested. Baked enamel finish; part of work surface is porcelain enamel. Available in white, yellow, pink, green. The 142S for $399.95 has suds saver.

Below those three machines is the next tier; "The following eight models were judged to have good overall quality but had a greater number of deficiencies than the preceding models."

The first in this category is the Sears Kenmore #8480W for $264.95. The second machine is the Sears Lady Kenmore "Cycla-Fabric" #8495W for $294.95. Both also came in suds saver models.

The third is the RCA Whirlpool "Imperial" EA90 for $369.95. "Basically similar to Sears Cat. No. 8480W, above--same comments regarding performance apply, but this model lacks many features including the unbalance switch and the "wash and wear" cycle. For laundering special articles (non-fast colors, woolens) either the Sears models above, or the RCA E491, below, were considered more suitable. Improper care of the lint filter could result in filter falling into tub while machine is operating. On this model, at the end of the cycle, a buzzer sounds and the washer lid opens automatically. Baked enamel finish; porcelain enamel work surface. Available in white, yellow, pink. Caster set available at extra cost. Similar models (not tested): EA495, $389.95. Has suds saver. "Imperial Mark XIII" EA491, $399.95, has same low speed and water temperature settings and special "wash and wear" cycle as Sears models above. EA496, $419.95. Has same features as EA491 plus suds saver.

After seeing this I went back up to the Sears Kenmore #8480W since the RCA Whirlpool is the same basic machine. This is what CR says about it: "A good all-around machine with relatively light linting. It was one of the noisiest of the machines tested. Used more hot water than most other machines. This was one of the few models having a special cycle for "wash and wear" items. In this cycle, wash water is replaced by cold water before the initial spin takes place which allows the use of relatively hot wash water without causing excessive wrinkling. Cleaning the lint filter was judged a somewhat annoying chore; improper care of the filter might result in some flooding. When the timer was not set carefully the agitator operated without water in the tub; this could cause some damage to clothes. The unbalance switch was not always effective. Special features: tub light; water saver. Baked enamel finish; porcelain enamel work surface. Available in white only. Caster set available, $10.50 plus shipping."
 
Just remembering my family's first automatic washer which was a 63? Kenmore with black bakelite straight vane with three cycles, three water levels and I think 3 temps. It also had that cool slide out waterfall lint filter cartridge with the key latch. That was the first washer I ever saw and the one that started my fascination with these fun interesting contraptions..I remember being so young how that agitator to my young mind looked menacing. Those fins were HUGE ! Great washer! I also nearly bit my tongue off when I was about 2 trying to get an "aerial" view of that machine. Thanks be to God I didn't lose it .

There is really no washer I have ever not taken an interest in, but for me the WP/KM washers will always be my favorites overall. From the aerated spray fills to the rhythmic woo woo woo and the sloshing water to the neutral drain and the" breathing" sounds all make for the most interesting noises a mechanical device such as a washer can make! Almost symphonic.

They are such mechanical sounding machines that that alone I could sit and listen to all the way through. No other make of washer that I have ever heard sounds quite like them. They are not obnoxiously loud like the Norge we got after the Kenmore, and with a quiet pak they could be quiter than a Maytag.

Oh that current WHIRLPOOL would look into their own rich past and see what they USED to build and get inspired again.

Thanks brucelucenta,....one more thing I was thinking of. Didn't Whirlpool also offer all porcelain cabinets on their TOL models or was it just Kenmore ? We as Americans were certainly spoiled by all the appliance manufacturers we had in this country.

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1958 August CR

I started typing out a bunch of results from the 8/58 CR and then decided to try to just scan and post the results in jpeg. If you can't read this, please let me know and I'll type it out for you. I also have a 1950 CR with washer testing, but it's only of 5 semi-auto models and has no Whirlpools. The Bendix Economat--the 'squeezer', won that one. They said their that Bendix was going to come out with a fully auto Economat. This one, you had to manually go over after the wash and reset the timer for rinse.

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I think the roto swirls had the scrubber . A friend of mine parents had a 63 Lady Kenmore washer with the scrubber cap and the detergent cup that sat on top of the scrubber.
Our washer was lower in the line. A 600 series ? I still see that machine in my memory . The straight vanes didn't come with the scrubber I do not believe. I never saw a bakelight straight vane with one . Maybe they came as an option.?
 
You are correct, I have never seen a straight vane agitator with a scrubber cap either. Those were on the roto swirl and other agitators with the upper part of the model line up.
 
CR Test for 'agiflow2'

Here is a scan of the whole August, 1962, Consumer Reports washer test. My parents always bought middle-of-the-line appliances back then on principle. In 1961 my mother had a Frigidaire.

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