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It has been reported to me by just a few users that there seems to be a small bug that on rare occasions appears to cut off posts of users. I cannot in any way shape or form get it to do it for me, everything seems to be working fine on my end. In order for me to fix this I have to figure out what is the character (or group of characters) that is causing this.

It most likely is a certain character that is setting it off such as the quote mark ". Can you guys try to post something in here using a bunch of special characters like quotes and apostrophes, then end you post with the word "Frigidaire", if we see Frigidaire we know it all made if.

If your post gets cut off, try it again. If if gets cut off again please email me the actual text you were trying to post ([email protected]) the text so I can bring it into the test system and get it fixed. You can use the back arrow to get back to the preview page.

Thanks everyone.

"this is a "test" to see" if I can get my post to get cut off.

'bla bla bla' "testing"

"test"

Frigidaire
 
Yep, has happened to me after I hit the preview button. To protect against this, I now always copy my intended text before hitting preview. If the preview cuts off half the text, I still have the copied text to paste back into my post. If you search my posts for the past week you will see some that are inexplicably cut off in mid-sentence.
 
PS

If the cut-off doesn't occur in Preview view, it will make it intact to a permanent post. The drop off in text seems to occur:

1. Going from initial text to preview
2. Usually when I was not logged in and had to go through Automatic Log In prior to seeing the preview
 
@Mr Boilwash

Heutzutage schreibt man sehr selten das ß in deutscher Grammatik. Was war los mit der ALTEN Rechtschreibung? Sogar Helmut Schmidt selbst hat die neue Rechtschreibung nicht angenommen. Was würde Bundeskanzler Dr. Konrad Adenauer davon sagen? Mindestens ist Scheiße noch "Scheiße".
 
Ding, Ding, Ding Jim wins the Showcase

Jim thank you, you gave me the hint that I needed to figure this out and fix it. Your hint was that it only happened when you were not logged in and typed some text with a " in it and then went to preview but the system had to stop and ask the user to log in first.

It should be fixed now. BUT in order to fix this bug for any of you who like to use HTML coding in your posts, for now until I make a more major change, you cannot use " characters in your HTML.

One change that is coming is once all of the posts are completely database driven I can simply turn off the reply boxes at the bottom unless the user is logged-in. This will fix the issue on both sides, but posts getting cut off are a higher priority than the ability to use " in HTML. HTML will work in all modern browsers without the " in it. Of course if you copy and paste code from youtube and the like you'll have to remove the " marks first.

look I'm not logged in at first "and" I'm using quotes

yay Fixed, its like putting on a brand new drive belt.

Frigidaire
 
:-)

I`m surpised to see you have the ß on your American keybord, too.
Thought it would be the most exotic character to you guys.
And yes the older generations seem to refuse the new spelling largely.
 
It did exactly what you are describing to me yesterday. Once I logged-in it was o.k., but it deleted everything I had typed and I had to re-type it. I just did not think much of it at the time, and knew you were tweaking the system. Otherwise I would have said something to you about it.
I still am unable to see certain photos. The Ultra-Clean on the home page is a blank. Certain photos posted to threads don't come through and other do. Very strange, and I haven't changed a thing as far as my system is concerned. When I talk to the droids at my internet provider they provide me with no useful information. Strange.
 
Hi Steve,

can you please tell me the thread#'s and the post #'s of a few of the threads that you cannot see pictures? There was a 48 hour period where photos were screwed up due to our ISP moving our site onto a new sever. Any photo posted during that specific 48 hour time period cannot be seen on Internet Explorer.

Most likely the pictures you cannot see where posted during that time period.

As for the animation on the home page, nothing what so ever has changed on the page in months, but lets take it one step at a time.
 
Stefan:

For European characters, American computers use what is called "Character Map," a function of Windows. Essentially, Character Map holds a set of European and other characters seldom used in America so that they can be cut and pasted into a document.
 
Oooh, Robert, You've Done it Now!

Robert:

In looking at a thread from yesterday, I found that your fix affected existing posts that use the double quote within HTML. It was Thread 27196, Post 419250. That entire post is gone, including all text and a JPEG picture.

Just thought you'd like to know.
 
In looking at a thread from yesterday, I found that your fix affected existing posts that use the double quote within HTML. It was Thread 27196, Post 419250. That entire post is gone, including all text and a JPEG picture.

Nope Sandy, that has absolutely nothing to do with my fix this morning. I was marked as offensive quite a bit yesterday evening and was removed, it happened at the worst possible time right as I was in working on the "mark as offensive" code which caused it to blank out without the text. I just left it as is.
 
Well, Imp. Thread #27293, Post #419265 is a good example. The photo of the Kenmos' at the bottom of the post comes through but the link to the video is just a blank square. Nothing to click on to watch the video.
 
US-International keyboard setting

@mrboilwash: the default keyboard setting in Control Panel in Windows is "US" here in USA. However, one can select "US-International" instead. This allows the user to create all additional characters used in Western European languages using an American keyboard. It is useful for those who use other European languages and who know the US keyboard by heart. I.e. Americans such as myself, and also immigrants from Europe who now know the US keyboard by heart (touch typing) who need to send e-mail or write in a non-English language.

German characters are made as follows:

ä ö ü: type " and then the vowel. US-International setting automatically adds an umlaut to the vowel. If you DON'T want an umlaut (say, you are writing a quotation, the first letter is a vowel but you don't want an umlaut example "Every good boy does finely"), you hit the space bar between the " and the vowel and it stops the umlaut. This only happens with vowels. With consonants, there is no need to hit the space bar.

ß: hold down the Right Alt key and type s, it makes ß. The left Alt key does not work for this function.

å (Swedish): Right Alt plus w

á é í ó ú as used in Spanish, French: hit ' (apostrophe) and then the desired vowel. ñ is Right Alt plus n

ø and æ in Danish and some forms of Norwegian is Right Alt plus l or z.

This may seem like a lot of memorize, but German users basically only need to memorize " plus vowel or Right Alt plus s to write anything in German. For those who have used an American keyboard for years (and know where the letters are by touch), this is the fastest way to write correct German.

When I was at university, in the typewriter era, you are correct, our typewriters could not make German characters.

For ß there were three alteratives:

1. leave a space where ß would be written and write the ß by hand

2. type a B and "pretend" it was ß

3. type it as "ss". This was acceptable in typewritten work, however on a written examination you had to write ß in the proper places and "ss" was not accepted. Our professors taught Hochdeutsch, not Swiss German, so one was expected to know the difference between ß and ss, and the correct usages.

Making umlauts was easier. You could backspace on a typewriter and type " and it was almost look like an umlaut. This was acceptable for typewritten work, or else you could add the dots by hand after the typing was completed (but then you might forget to add an umlaut by hand, so it was better to stop and backspace right away and add the umlaut.

Another alternative is to write "ae" "oe" and "ue" instead of ä ö ü and it is assumed that the person who reads your message in Europe knows that you don't have ä ö ü on your keyboard and understands what you would have typed had you used a European keyboard. Most of my European friends who visit and use my computer to write home use this method, because they don't bother to learn to use the US-International keyboard technique. (it only makes sense if you use a US keyboard daily and know the letters by memory). At university, however, this was NOT allowed and we used the methods described above.

Because I e-mail friends in Germany, Scandinavia, and occasionally in Spanish (I do not know French at all), I keep my computer keyboards on US-International setting by default.

At the time I was in university, the German government really wanted to promote the study of German in countries abroad. As a result, our textbook prices were actually subsidized by I believe 15-20% by the German government to make them more affordable. I don't remember whether they paid the publisher or distributor or bookstore, but I do remember that our German textbooks were noticeably less expensive than those in say Spanish or French.
 
@danemodsandy

Yes, character map also works, but slow and time consuming. With the US-International keyboard setting, you can make the characters "on the fly" and lose little speed. I type 80 words per minute and find that using the US-International keyboard setting is easiest for me. I have several friends from Germany who have lived in the US for 20+ years. They have forgotten the German keyboard layout but can type in English on a US keyboard as fast as any American---for them, US-International is the way to go when corresponding with Germany.

There is a third technique using the ASCI or ANSI system. You hold down Alt and type a four-digit numeric code. This goes all the way back to the DOS era. To me it seems cumbersome, but for those who were using computers back in the DOS era and who memorized the codes, it works just fine.

Foreign visitor friends find US-International confusing (not surprising, as they don't use a US keyboard on a daily basis) and just type ss ae oe ue to make German characters. Swedes make the å with aa. People on the other end understand what they meant.
 
adapting to different keyboards

I should have mentioned that my laptop was a gift to me from a friend in Sweden whose company upgrades its executives' laptops every two years; they may give the old computer to whomever they please. Mine is an IBM/Lenovo T40 which was a real workhorse in its day (c. 2004-5). It has a Swedish keyboard and a Swedish version of Windows XP. I can read Swedish, so the Swedish OS version is no problem. After several months of using the computer, I adapted to the Swedish keyboard. Some of the punctuation marks are in different locations than on an English keyboard, and of course there are dedicated keys for å ä and ö. What is amazing though is that I can now go back and forth between the laptop and my home and office desktops (both have standard US keyboards, with the keyboard setting in Windows changed to "US-International") with little trouble. Somehow the brain just adapts.
 
Everyone please help test if you can and PLEASE lets keep th

thanks Steve, lets investiage.

Below is a link to a thread and post that Steve cannot see the picture on, who can and cannot see this picture (a video is also there)??? Please also include your browser, eg IE8 or Firefox 3.58, etc.

I can see it both in IE8 and Firefox 3.58.

Thanks everyone!

http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/THREADS/VINTAGE/2010/27293.htm?go#start_27293.419265
 
Robert, both the video and picture are visible here.. IE6 and Firefox 3.6 running under Windows 2000 SP4.

Here's a test of the "quote" function, before being logged in...
 
Everything in the linked thread displays fine for me. XP SP2 (I think--maybe 3) with Firefox. It seems everything got better for me after switching from IE8 to Firefox about a week or so ago.
 
Can see all with Safari 4.0.3 and Firefox 3.5.8 (Mac OS 10.6.2)

But... the avatar of danemodsandy doesn't load in Firefox, while it does in Safari (no problems with other avatars)
 
Robert said: "Below is a link to a thread and post that Steve cannot see the picture on, who can and cannot see this picture (a video is also there)??? "

So far everything has worked well for me (Safari 4.0.4 and MacOS X 10.6.2).
 
Darn! I was just enjoying not to have to remove all the " when posting a Youtube video. LOL! Robert, will that possibility come back?

Yes it sure will Louis, once the posts are completely database driven, probably in about 1 month.

The updating avatar problem between browsers is another thing that will change once the posts are completely database driven.

So we're still waiting to find someone else who cannot see the pictures in the link that I posted above. So far everyone but Steve can see it.
 
I can see both, the video and the pictures of the other thread BUT I get a red X instead of Danemodsandy`s thumbnail picture in this thread. All other thumbnails are ok.

All is fine Stefan, this is a small issue that I know about. Updating avatar thumbnail pictures problem between browsers is another thing that will change once the posts are completely database driven. This change wont be in place for about a month or so. So please ignore avatar issues for now.
 
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