Powders vs Liquids

[toggleswitch]

Austin:

Cold tap water in TX is probably much warmer that cold tap water up north, esp. in winter. Perhaps liquids are needed to be able to dissolve better in certain parts of the country. [YAY Automatic temperature control feature!]

In Arizona, I had to do (darks)laundry early in the morning or late at night! Mid-day "COLD" water was blazing hot (to me)!

 

[westytoploader]

Steve, I did forget to mention that one of the reasons I can get by (for now, at least) with cold water only in the Studio is that it is much warmer than usual. While it is especially warm right now, I washed a few loads down there last winter and while it was cold outside, I was surprised that the water wasn't at all!

Even during the winter, I don't have any problems as far as dissolving/residue is concerned. Ironically, I had the worst time with Purex Quick Dissolving powder; it would take a good 5 minutes for it to dissolve completely, and it would leave powdery "dust" in the machine afterwards. Threw it away before I used it up and will NEVER buy it again...YUK! Another twist of irony is that the previous Purex formulas (that didn't claim to be quick dissolving) were so much better in this aspect! If I can find non-quick-dissolving Purex again, I will get it.

--Austin

 

[user 12105]

When i switched back to Tide 3 yrs. ago...they touted the quick dissolving formula...which overall lived up to it's claim, Let's face facts...an excellent detergent..but sucks at rinsing out...towels as we all know are notorious.

Does anyone know how modern A&H is as far as cleaner rinsing is concerned? (powder form)

 

[dixieland]

I too am torn on what to use so I just indulge myself and purchase whatever I want. I have too much but I always tend to buy more. I have recently ordered the Oxyclean powdered detergent and found that it worked well for colors but not so great on whites (I am old-school and like to bleach them). I also like both the liquid and the powder all. The powdered all has a nice classid detergent scent and is most closely matched by the liquid all with bleach. all botanical fusion which supposedly has a fabric softening agent is also good. Many times I just revert back to classic powdered tide (the liquids are too smelly for me).

I recently found Ariel available in the local Piggly Wiggly so I am giving that a try too but am not so fond of the smell. Overall it cleans very well though.

Another favorite is a peroxide-based detergent i ordered from our house works (I thnk - that name always confuses me).

I also found some powdered wisk with bleach at a local store but I did not buy it.

Last but not least (and truthfully not last either) I always have some Fresh Start on hand.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

BOTH Powdered and Liquid for me...

Powdered only for whites, wich often need the prewash (so one cup for prewas and one-and-half for main wash), and as they are washed at high temp (70-90°C id depends on soil level), I use powdered detergent as DASH generally... Lately I found on supermarket shelves a powdered det for washers which hasn't got any brand... I think is a sort of "common" detergent, but it needs the highest temp to work.

Liquid is used generally at low temp (30-40°C), even with whites if I do them at 40°C when they are not so dirty, always with colors! My colors load are two: the first is of shirts and blouses, as I do them with "Sintetici" cycle, to avoid ironing... they come out really wrinkless! ; the other one is made of all the rest of colored which is not shirts&blouses, so jeans, track suits, pijamas, sweaters...cotton and systhetics togheter on "Colorati" cycle.
Generally I use DASH (in liquid version), and separately COCCOLINO, or VERNEL, or FABULOSO softner, when I don't use BOLT wich has got 2in1 detergetn and fabric softner with dispenser ball direcly in the drum

BYE! )
Diomede

 

[sudsdudeshane]

Powders for whites/Liquids for darks

I am currently using Wisk liquid for my colored clothers. I love the smell and it works great.Add a cup of borax for additional cleaning power.

for whites I love All and Ajax powder with a cup of borax they smell great and clean better than liquids. I also like to add a 1/2 cup of white vinegar to the rinse cycle with Final Touch fabric softener.Its less expensive than downy and in my opinion much better.

Would love to get my hands on some Cold Power!!! It was the best powder around and a great scent

 

[laundrypure]

Cold Power!

The latest technology just released in the U.S. is LaundryPure
An appliance that injects NASA developed High order oxidizers into the water and cleans better than the best detergent, No hot water, no chemcals, no soap! Clothes dry 35% faster, are up to 70% fluffier, almost no lint in the dryer.

I just set up a website at www.yourbestlaundry.com/kflint check it out and drop me an email. I was looking for a way to get the informaion out to those who care!

Laundrypure

http://www.yourbestlaundry.com/kflint

 

[stone3575]

Shane- you crazy boy! you have me hooked on this site now also. I'd like to have you and Sonny over for some dinner.

Glenn does the laundry and he knows to always use Downy Original Scent.Final Touch is like water. Don't be so cheap Shane!

 

[frigilux]

OK, kids; who's going to pounce on LaundryPure first? All right, I'll start.

I don't care if GOD invented it, I will continue to use detergent, bleach and fabric softener. Send one to Consumer Reports and let them test it.

 

[intuitive]

Rinso is the best smell & cleaning power BUT Unilever has sent it to the great big laundry bin in the sky
I now like Bio Zet powder closely followed by Surf Tropical powder. I have a Fisher & Paykel Intuitive Eco - IW712. I have been using Bio Zet for years with great results. I have tried all sorts of liquids, they just DONT clean as well as a powder. The F&P likes to be fed thru the agitator, using a warm/cold wash (25c-28C). Sydney has a good water supply & usually dont need to fabric soften the loads... Tumble drying is something only needed in the middle of our winters so 9 months of the year, the dryer just hangs about getting in the way in the laundry,looking bored! Oh bliss off for the weekend to do more washing !!!!!

 

[brettsomers]

OMG, SPAM! a corner has been turned, this and the picture thread are giving me the sense of a merry-go-round, going out of control!

 

[laundrypure]

So if I shared a new detergent it would be ok, but an altern

Get real, OMG one email to one group of people with common interest, with the option to view the information and nobody twisting your arm, and you call it spamming?

That is so lame! What will you do when you have all the soap you want and no water to wash in or drink?

The detergent market in America is $6 Billion per year. if you bought Tide Powder with that much, it would fill 10 foot shipping containers that would stretch from Vancouver B.C. to Los Angeles, CA and all of that ends up in our waste water!

Seems that someone who wants the best, wants clean safe laundry, and be environmentally sensitive.

laundrypure

 

[laundrypure]

Toggleswitch's comments about fillers!

Toggleswitch, If the fillers were sawdust, they would float and stay on top, like a scum they are mostly fine pumace powder, (ground up rock) causes much of the lint in the dryer.
Amways SA-8 didn't work because it didn't have fillers. DUH! it worked so well because it had "surfactants" these negative ion suppliers, added what was needed to let the water become "wetter" by releasing the bond between molecules. when water will stand on a countertop and defy gravity and not flow out, its because of a limited number of ions that the water molecules have to share. When the necessary ions are provided the individual molecules of water can separate and function. This cleans better.

Our new LaundryPure appliance, goes farther and provides not only ions, but oxygenated gases injected into the water, energizing it. No soap, no fillers, cold water, kills bacteria 99.9999% rinses out the gunk from the fibers of the clothes and revolumizes them to fluffier, softer, fresh smelling without ANY CHEMICALS!

don't be a skeptic, just look at the data at www.yourbestlaundry.com/kflint (if you don't want to leave private data, just use xx's to fill registration, but please leave your name, if you will.

Keith [email protected]

 

[laundrypure]

correction to my response to toggleswitch

OOooooPs!!!!!

I meant the 40 foot steel shipping containers, not 10 foot.

I need to re read my postings better.

Keith [email protected]

 

[user 12105]

LaundryPure...your tone is a little rude and this is not a site for people to be pushing their wares. Besides there is PLENTY of water in the world to drink, cook, eat, bathe, etc,etc...another flash in the pan "must have" product.

 

[westytoploader]

Bottom line: Detergents are better. Period. Not "electronified" water or whatever the hell it is.

I'm sticking to my Tide, thank you.

 

[maytagbear]

Laundrypure,

If you are really interested in this site, you would have lurked for a while before posting.

For the most part, we make an effort to be civil in our postings. In fact, in all our interactions.

However, I cannot remember such a blatant plug for an experimental product.

I hope you do stay around, but kindly try to learn something about the Zeitgeist here, first, please.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[jasonl]

Right now, I'm using TideHE liquid for my OasisHE. And yeah, it gets messy, but it's always better when you make a mess ;-). When I get my vintage Kenmore, I'll get some good ol' Tide original scent and use Downy April Fresh. You can't run a vintage Kenmore 800 without Tide and Downy, it wouldn't be right.

I was in the Amway cult, ahem.. business for about a year and tried SA8. I like the fact that it was concentrated and low-sudsing but it was EXPENSIVE! Well, maybe not for an Amway distributor but for someone buying it, holy mackel!

 

[sudsdudeshane]

Laundrypure

I doubt you will find many people supporting your new technology of cleaning clothes.Please show a little respect when addressing fellow club members.

Long live conventional washing machines!

*Thx*

 

[peterh770]

Ozonepure

Ozonated water is nothing new. It is used in commercial laundries. While known primarily for it's disinfecting properties, it is not know for gentleness to machinery, especially rubber parts. Be that as it may, detergent is still needed, while in a much smaller amount, to help suspend dirt and oils in solution and carry them away with the waste water. As for the faster-drying claim, I have heard this from a number of very reputable sources, but I am dubious of the claim.

There is a coin laundry owner over here in the East (Virginia?, the Carolinas? I can't remember.) that has a state of the art high efficiency, ozonated store that just raves and raves about the benefits of ozone. Again, I am dubious.

Your milage may vary...

 

[peterh770]

Not completely off topic

POWDERS ALL THE WAY!!!

I like a nice powder with not too many extra ingredients so that I can add bleach, borax and brightners when I feel the particular items need it.

It is easier for me to control suds in frontloaders with powders than it is with liquids.

UK Persil tabs. The regular bio tabs have the most dreamy smell, very sanitary and bleach-like. Lovely in towels.

Domestically, give me plain ALL powder. Getting hard to find, but good stuff in my book.

 

[sudsdudeshane]

All Powder

PeterH770- you can order ALL Powder from www.gristedes.com..It is a NYC based grocer that carries alot of our favorites such as ALL,Ajax and Yes. I also order my RedPack Canned tomatoes, the best canned tomatoes on the market.
They ship based on the weight of the products ordered.

=)

 

[appnut]

I"m powders all the way. Never been real fond of liquids. right now I'm using the Sears Stain Fighting Formula (enzymes).

 

[brisnat81]

DriveMatic Powder is my Favorite

No Suds, good rinsing, and everything comes out spotlessly clean.

The downside is, that its the most expensive powder available in the supermarket.

The LaundryPure device reminds me of the control panels on the Whirlpool DD machines. It just needs a cycle knob and some temps.

While I dont necessarily beleive the claims of the Laundry pure device, I do agree that some parts of the world have a dire shortage of potable water.

In South East Queensland where I live, we've now entered Level 3 restrictions which mean no hosing outside the house, everything must be done with buckets. There is now a huge push for homeowners to install water tanks, replace toilets and showers with HE versions, and buy FL washers (Large govt incentives are available)

Without further rainfall in the catchment area, we only have enough water for another 18months, before there is nothing left in storage to drink. They are predicting that in November, Level 4 restrictions will come into place, however they are yet to determine what they will be. Essentially though, it would be no water usage outside the home.

I wont go into the prattle of different options for creating potable water, or push any thing else, but there is a reason for water conservation and not everywhere has billions of litres to waste.

 

[sudsdudeshane]

Does anyone know if Final Touch fabric softener has been discontinued?. I was at my local Publix and Winn-Dixie and couldn't find it in either store.

 

[peterh770]

Final Touch has been resurrected by one of those companies like Redox that is trying to bring back old names with new nasty formulas. Look around also for Snowy Bleach and Oxydol.

Where, oh where has my Fresh Start gone?

 

[zipdang]

Where, oh where has my Fresh Start gone?

I see Fresh Start (as well as powdered All) in stores all over the Portland area. Our Wincos sell it for $4-something per bottle. But it's been years since I've seen Final Touch or Snowy. I think Albertson's might still carry Oxydol, but that's about the only place I've spotted it.

 

[angus]

Yes Final Touch has been taken over by Phoenix Brands - the same company that purchased the Colgate detergent brands (Fresh Start, Fab, Ajax and Dynamo. It is widely available here in the Northeast - at least in Connecticut.

 

[mrcleanjeans]

probability of precipitation today is high

Don't non-phosphate powders laden with sodium carbonate as a softener combine with the calcium in hard water,forming precipitates such as limestone? That's what laundry manuals often say.

 

[seeitrun2006]

Liquid detergent all the way

We had to have our septic tank pumped out 2 years ago after only there 6 years of living in our new house. We ran a gabage diposer into the ST and didn't know better. The guy who pumped it our told us to change to all liquid detergent. Something in the powders would accumulate in the ST. We now use liquid in the clothes washer and dish washer all the time with great results. The only down side is your can't seem to get all the detergent out when the jug starts to run empty. Have to stand it up side down for a couple of days.

And by the way the diposer has been "disposed of" per say. Actually it's in my attic in storage in hopes of our town getting on sewage anytime in the next century.