Presidejt Gerald Ford, Dead at 93

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Oh my Heavens.. We lost James Brown, Gearld Ford and Some one else today.... They seem to pop off in threes..
 
a good man

I thought he was a decent prez...
The best line I ever heard about President Ford came from Archie Bunker, during one of his (in)famous arguements with the meathead: "You leave Gerald Ford alone, he's doing a helluva job for a guy nobody voted for!"
 
Great, another multimillion dollar funeral spectacle for a man who's been either a cheerleader or an architect for every wrong thing that's happened to this country for the last seventy years...

Better stock up on videos, folks, and brace yourselves for another onslaught.....frankly, Squeaky Fromme wasn't that interesting the first time around.
 
Squeaky Frum? No, Fromme

I wonder if she was squeaky clean. Interesting news that came out of that attempt on Ford's life was that a gay former member of the armed forces was the one who made the move that saved Ford's life.
 
Gerald and Betty Ford live in Rancho Mirage, California and attended St. Margaret's Episcopal Church in Palm Desert, California which I also attended until I moved to Tucson.
The "Presidential Pew" was always reserved for the Fords and the Rector and his wife. I met the Fords and spoke to them once, but I usually respected their privacy and would just smile when I saw them at St. Margarets.

Their limousine would park at the front door, the Fords would be escorted into church by secret service agents who would sit through Mass with them, then escort the Fords out to their limousine that awaited them by the front door.
Betty Ford is very well liked at respected at St. Margarets.
As coincidence would have it, the Rector, Fr. Robert Certain announced he would retire on January 7, 2007 but would remain as personal pastor to the Fords.

I am very sad to hear of the passing of Gerald Ford. I am attaching link to St. Margarets, and I would assume that a Mass will be done their for Gerald Ford.

Ross

http://www.stmargarets.org/
 
Oxydolfan, do you ever post anything respectful about anyone?

Once again your misdirected anger is launched in the wrong direction. Gerald Ford was given the wheel of a perilously close-to sinking ship (the USA) by a president who was smart enough to leave office before more serious damage was done.

This man's job, for 2 1/2 years, was to keep our country on an even keel until the next election. The fact that he pardoned Nixon may have brought him down politically, but he prevented our country from plunging even further into a chasm of chaos. Nixon was pardoned, disappeared, and the country got back to the business at hand. The American people then elected Jimmy Carter...'nuf said.

You may not have agreed with Gerald Ford and/or his politics, but most mannered folks observe someone's passing with respect and dignity. Sorry the special reports are interrupting your cartoons.
 
I have to admit that I did not care for President Ford while he was in office. I think it was because he was appointed by Nixon, and of course, I did not like Nixon at all. Then to top it all off, Ford turned around and pardoned Nixon. Even though I was still a teen, I knew felt doing that was very wrong. I think many in our country felt the same way about the situation at the time.

Since that time I have listened to President Ford speak many times over the years. Mostly via public radio. I think he did a good job as president, considering the position our country was in at the time. He did have to get the country moving forward again, even though he would pay a heavy price for pardoning Nixon. He has said that he was aware of the price of what he did, but he thought it was in the best interest of our country. I think he should be respected for that.
All in all, he was a good person, was a very intelligent man, and did the best job he could. We have had much worse, that is for sure.

May President Ford rest in peace.
 
The Tucson Contingent enjoys a good reputation in the club. We are of varying political views here in Tucson but we all respect each other for our differences. After all, we are together to enjoy our washing machines. I feel that respect must be given to anyone who passes away, regardless of our feelings about that person. Our sympathies should go out to the family who endured the loss and not forget that most of us too have experienced losing loved ones and would want the same respect and sympathy in return.

Ross
 
retromom,

Well Said!!!! President Ford deserves the dignity of a State Funeral simply because he was President, whether bad or good...he was President!!!!!
 
Well, this time I'm cutting this off at the pass..

Retromom, respect has to be earned...

For Carter, and to a lesser extent Bill Clinton, I shall mourn.

But I don't cry when a Rethug dies, and hypocritical whining suits its purveyors far better than me....

I stand by my original statement.

If I have my cartoons, you have Rush Limbaugh....at least my cultural heroes sources aren't in imminent need of detoxification....

I relate more to real mothers, like Cindy Sheehan....

Again, if you have a beef, please email me at [email protected] and have a go. Logs, wingnuts, pink gatekeepers as well: Welcome! Please don't (again) clutter the board with your howls, thinking you'll get me tossed. I know my people: just because they will not support me publicly doesn't mean they do not support me privately.

But don't blame me just because the greater majority of Americans shed crocodile tears, when they would have vastly preferred a far more recent "President" to have gone in his sleep last night, and I refuse to participate.

We ARE divided politically. America is not a 1950s picnic.

I am PERMITTED to speak my mind.

Thank you.
 
Oxydolfan:

A wise man on this forum once advised to "never match wits with an unarmed man". Please feel free to blather away. I consider any further comments by you to be moot, as you ran out of ammunition a long time ago.

Adios
 
For Ford to pardon Nixon was the only way for what Ford termed "our national nightmare" to end, I feel. We had already been through enormous upheaval because of the Watergate revelations; more investigations and charges would have served little purpose except to make things worse.

The problem was: where would it all end? As everyone knows if they think about it, politics is an inherently corrupt business, even when it's headed by someone decent like Ford or Carter. If you begin real investigation, then you're going to bring the wheels of government to a screeching halt, because EVERYONE's up to their a** in favours and whatnot. I remind Ford's critics that we had one hell of a recession going on at the time, with out-of-control, galloping, double-digit inflation, plus the Cold War, plus Vietnam leftovers, plus Middle East trouble that was sending gas prices through the roof. We needed stability, and Ford's approach saw to it that we got it. The message was clear: "You guys have been out of control. That's over."

Whether you like Ford's decision to pardon Nixon or not, Ford took full responsibility for it to the end of his days, never once complaining or whining about being misunderstood. Gerald Ford knew from the moment he signed that pardon that he was giving his enemies all the ammunition they needed, and he did what he felt was right anyway. Ford endured a loss of the Presidency in the 1976 elections, then total humiliation in 1980 when his own party declined to nominate him to run again. Had Ford run in '80, he probably would have won; it wasn't like Carter had worked out well or anything.

You can love Ford or hate him. I think he was one of the two best Presidents we've had in my lifetime (the other is Harry Truman), and I'd give anything if we could see his brand of decency and integrity back in Washington again. Oh, and by the way- I'm a Democrat.
 
Play nice children...

We are all entitled to our own feelings/opinions and ideas...
Scott you stated yours and I fully accept that... If i where to have a beef with something or you with me i would hope you would email me privatly... I hope others would do this as well.. Even if my big mouth is posting here alot

I wasn't alive when he was in office, however i feel from what i have read heard and seen that he was as a great man later on in life, for the pardon of nixon..

I do admit that there will be quite a bit of coverage on this and money spent that could be spent else ware...

But then again we must have respect for those officals who step up to the plate and take the Title as President.. Its a tough job and it's very stressful.. Think about it, the secret service has to follow you around 24-7 365... Not something i would want...

Although I will not mourn the loss of either Pres. Bush Sr or the Current Bush, i will keep those thoughts to my self...

Clinton did a good job to a point, when he started screwing Monica, than he lost my respect...

Its all a game..

Ok.. Be nice
 
Ford Deserves My Respect

I turned 19 in 1976, and had worked on Jerry Brown's presidential campaign in Nevada. That fall, I had to decide who to choose--Gerald Ford or Jimmy Carter. I almost voted for Ford, but ended up casting my ballot for Carter. (Four years later, unable to vote for Reagan, I chose John Anderson.)
Since that time, I have looked at the Ford legacy, read books and listened to historians. And I'm convinced that Ford was a good, decent president who came at a time when American needed decent leaders. Yes, he had his flaws (and he was the incubator for Cheney and Rumsfeld) but American could have been worse off if not for Ford, and his pardon of Richard Nixon. There was good reason Carter thanked Ford during his inaugural address for "all he has done to heal our land." That was no small accomplishment. For that, Gerald Ford deserves this Democrat's respect.
 
Well he sure knew how to pick...................

A classy wife. I was saddened to learn of Former President Ford's death. Always a BIG CUDOS to Betty Ford, honesty with breast cancer and alcoholism. Candor that took a Heap of gutts in the 1970's, thats CLASS. Mrs. Ford and Family, are in my prayers. alr2903
 
On the PBS Newshour tonight

four presidential historians discussed Ford's presidency. Every point Danemod made was cited by them. Here were the others

1. He wanted to heal the country
2. After the weirdness and paranoi and aristocracy of Johnson and Nixon, he was a breath of fresh air, "like having the man next door for president."
3. He restored dignity, honesty and respect to the presidency
4. Nixon leftovers consumer "25% of his time and 25% of his staff's time." That's a direct quote from Form with obvious pronoun changes.
5. The concensus of professional historical judgment is that the pardon was the right call, although very unpopular, and finally courageous

From me i loved him; so did the crew at Saturday Night Live. Chevy Chase obviously loved him too. All of their skits were hilarious, physical slap-stick and clearly affectionate.

He was athltetic, swam and skiied, though he had a few accidents, and would show up on TV with a few bandages, like white criss-cross ones.

Cerebral and meditative, he was often very deliberative and measured in his speech which most morons never see as a sign of intelligence.

He was first or fourth--I forget which-- in his class at Yale Law. How dumb is that? I got tears in my eyes today on my way from the Buffalo Washer Warehouse when i heard the news, weeping even though i had a beautiful visamatic in my friend's truck. That's how sad I was to hear that such a magnificent man was no longer among us.

Ross, how Cool, but you said Betty was beloved at ST.Margaret's What about Gerry?
 
Regarding Mrs. Ford....

Agree with ALR heartily...it WAS a big deal for a woman of her time to deal with breast cancer and substance abuse in those days...not to mention the fact that she spoke out regarding womans' rights and reproductive issues without toeing the positions of the regressive right that were asserting themselves even then....

This is true.
 
Jesus, I hope somebody sees me

It takes me forever to type. Damn Jesuits, they sent us off to college with no keyboarding whatsoever.
 
"We had already been through enormous upheaval because of the Watergate revelations; more investigations and charges would have served little purpose except to make things worse."

Except that attitude laid the future groundwork for further, similar atrocities.

It has become nothing for our government to lie to our people, to indeed lie to the world and misrepresent our true intents and purposes. It enabled an entire generation of Republican partisans (and a frightening number of their enablers on the Democratic side) to, indeed, KNOW that they would not be held accountable for their transgressions, going forward.

It was the prelude to the blatant usage of media-rich manufactured events as smokescreens, to preclude what was really going on (gas prices, anyone?)

It was the advent of the policy of the "unitary executive" and the idea that the president could, without any recourse, run rimshod over the Constitution and the will of the American people and dictate HIS twisted values (a concept created and nurtured, by the way, by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, who both used the Nixon debacle as their flimsy excuse).

Absolutely NOTHING improved by Ford concentrating on issues like gas prices or the Middle East. On the contrary, it was one ridiculous, foolhardy, irresponsible financial decision and capitulation after another (as I watched my neighborhood literally be burned down around me)...

Had impeachment proceedings proceeded as expected, at least a modicum of accountability and justice would have served as a message to future tyrants....as it stands, the shareholders and moneychangers ran free, until Clinton's sexcapades were deemed far more worthy of examination than the business of governance.

And look at what we are wallowing in now.

Ford's pardon may have allowed business interests to continue unfettered, but they certainly set the stage for the rest of the nation to fall into bitter divisiveness and one murderous, unjust rape of pillage of just about everyone and everything else America once stood for.

So let's just throw money at the coffin...it will make it all go down every bit as more smoothly.

That's the price of dubious ethics, without moral repentance.
 
"Ford's pardon may have allowed business interests to continue unfettered, but they certainly set the stage for the rest of the nation to fall into bitter divisiveness and one murderous, unjust rape of pillage of just about everyone and everything else America once stood for."

Oxydolfan:

I have a feeling you weren't around when Ford took office, or were too young to remember it well.

What Ford did was to make the best of a bad situation, which is really about as much as you can expect of any politician in real life. Your moral outrage at what has happened post-Ford is quite justified, but if you expect much of anything to change, I assure you that's not going to happen. Ford's pardon of Nixon set a limit on a situation that was tearing the country apart. If the moral fibre you expect of leaders had been present after Ford's departure, the lesson of Watergate would have helped to ensure that we had better governance. That didn't happen, but that was hardly Ford's fault or doing. Fact is, politics is a dirty, dirty, DIRTY game, and the very best you can expect is that whoever you vote for won't be too much of a crook. Politicians with actual integrity are extremely rare, and when you get one, you cherish the memory.

You obviously have a lot of anger at the current Republican Administration, and I would be the last person on earth to argue with that. But if you think any good is done by impeachment proceedings, I remind you that Clinton was impeached. That action divided the country, permitted the Republicans to vilify Democrats from hell to breakfast, and set the stage for Gore's defeat. Had Clinton not been impeached, we might have had Gore leading us today.

Revenge is sweet- except for the consequences.
 

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