Question about a Philips Whirlpool AWG752

[foraloysius]

A friend of mine has a frontload washer, Philips Whirlpool AWG752. She is not very interested in doing laundry and washers, but since her washer started to smell I gave her some advice. For instance what detergent to use, what cycles etc. This machine has a timer, a temp. control, a spinspeed control, an on off button and another button. I am just wondering what that other button is for. Here's a picture, it's the button with the tub pictogram in the yellow square. Does anybody know what that button is for? I know it's not a rinse hold button since that is on the spinspeed control.

 

[brisnat81]

Could it be waterlevel?

That style looks old enough to be pre auto sensing.

 

[fredriksam]

I,m pretty sure the button is for "gentle" wash. In old VDN for clothes that symbol means: gentle wash with high water level, spin max 1 min.

 

[foraloysius]

Interesting thought Fredrik. But this machine has a separate cycle for delicates. Would you use that button on that cycle so there is less movement? Would it be able to use that button on the cottons cycle too?

 

[kirk280980]

To me that looks like the standard European symbol for a reduced action wash, as for synthetic fabrics. I'm guessing this machine already has separate, distinct cycles for cottons, synthetics and delicates on the timer knob. If so, pushing this button merely provides a somewhat gentler variation of the standard cottons cycle.

Another possibility is that cotton and synthetic programmes share the same settings on the cycle knob, and this button is used to differentiate between the two. Kind of like some AEG machines, which would default to cottons wash action unless you pushed a fabric selection button to tell the machine otherwise.

BTW, is this a Merloni-made machine? Those pushbuttons look the same as those found on Servis machines from the early to mid 90s, which were often rebadged as Philips and/or Whirlpool.

 

[foraloysius]

Kirk,

This machine has a cottons cycle, a delicate cycle and a wool cycle. There is not a real synthetics cycle, with older Philips machines you just used the cottons cycle with reduced spinspeed.

I'm not sure, but I don't think this is a Merloni machine. This machine sounds like a real Philips and is from the era just after Whirlpool took over Philips.

Louis

 

[kirk280980]

Hi Louis -

Ah, now it all makes sense... one selects the cottons cycle for both cotton and synthetic fabrics, and selecting this pushbutton tailors the wash more towards the latter. Presumably it works by altering the drum rhythm, increasing water levels or omitting spins, or a combination thereof.

Just out of interest, does this machine perform a spin-drain, or had that feature already fallen by the wayside by the time Philips began to evolve into Whirlpool?

 

[MrX]

Just as a point.. Philips wasn't taken over by Whirlpool. Philips did a joint venture with Whirlpool "Philips-Whirlpool" to manufacture whiteware.

Philips then abandoned whiteware manufacturer completely and sold their interest in Philips-Whirlpool to Whilrpool Europe.

Philips is still a huge Dutch electrical/electronics company and like GE and Siemens, it also has a weirdly diversified range of products. e.g. they make lightbulbs, televisions, irons, shavers, toothbrushes, phones and other consumer products... and at the other extreme they make ultra high tech medical devices and MRI machines!

 

[panthera]

details

I don't remember the exact details, but have pasted the link to them in the picture, attached. The machine had, at the very least, the Wollmark certification, so I could imagine the button actually did do something.
Just what...been too long and I was already stink sauer regarding Whirlpool in Europe.
This was the era when Philips was begining to get rid of lots of albatrosses - Grundig, too. I said era, not month and week.
Funny, their quality in many areas is outstanding, in others so-so and it doesn't bother them one bit. I do know that Siemens Medical takes them as competitors very very seriously and that is one reason not even their idiot managers are permitted to cut corners - they have to keep the quality up to compete against Philips MRI products.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Symbols

Hi Louis

I`m sure its the symbol for the high water level to be selected with the delicates & synthetics, this machine had the simple timer with the other controls for temp & spin, this option simply gave you the high water level enabling a more delicate wash.And its the international yellow colour for delicates/gentle action.

I think this could be after the 090 series and possibly be merlioni made, that squareness gives it away.

Mike

 

[panthera]

I suspect this is right,

but not being sure left it with the details listed above. Our shop just through these out when one came in on a trade, they weren't worth repairing in our boss's eyes...There were several Merlioni products with this concept for a while.
I think Stiftung Warentest gave them high marks for washing out the detergent residues well, but serious demerits for their counter-balance weights cracking and breaking...

 

[gizmo]

Merloni made?! gasp!

So are some Whirlpool front loaders made by Merloni? I thought that Whirlpool had its own factories? or did they do a mixture of both?
Thanks

chris.

 

[gizmo]

I just looked up the textile affairs website posted by Panthera. The symbol looks like the permanent press symbol. (water vessel with a line under )

Chris.

 

[MrX]

Philips products in general are quite good though. I have generally found any of their small appliances pretty good quality given their price points.

GE's simliar in many ways. Very high end technical products e.g. medical gear and consumer products of so-so quality.

The problem for Philips was probabaly that they didn't quite have the vertical integration and economies of scale that whirlpool had and weren't really all that tightly focused on whiteware which is generally a high volume low profit margin business.

The likes of Miele etc occupy a high end niche. Philips machines were pretty run of the mill.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Oh, wait... that's the truth!

Louis, as I grew up with EuroFL, I thik to be able to say something about them...

1. Whirlpool brand, started to be sold "near" Philips brand and THE TRUTH is like MrX said.
Then MERLONI'S APPLIANCES ARE NOT WHIRLPOOL'S! Merloni's got only Ariston and Indesit brand which they sold with.

2. I think to have the "key" about second button: as someone's said the second button might mean permanent-press...it's quite like the solution (I think)...

Here we call it "ANTIPIEGA", and that's the function of it: IT LEAVES THE WATER IN AFTER THE LAST RINSE, TO AVOID WRINKLES. That will be true if that function there's not in the spin regulation, like somtime happens.

In some cases this function is incorporated in the timer, as well as you select the delicates cycle and it stops with water in after the last rinse, so you can choice to go ahead with the spin or make the drain only.

Either my 1981 FL Sangiorgio has got it! The function is the same in the delicates cycle, while if you press that button with the "1" cycle, the cotton-45°C-pre-wash, the machine stops after the soaking (differetly, if you don't press it, after "1" cycle, the machine does AUTOMATICALLY the "2" cycle wich is generally whitest-white-cottons-90/70°C as you selected)

That's all. I tried to found that machine on my Philips-Whirlpool brochures collection, but I didn't find anything, although thath I'm quite sure that what I said it's true.

GoodBye everyone

 

[askomiele]

My washer has the same button. It decreases the wash rhythm and increases the water level in the coton cycle. In the synthetic it decreases only the wash rhythm. In délicats and handwashing it has no fonction!

 

[foraloysius]

Thank you all for your responds. I will mail my friend with the results of my question. If I had some more time I would go there and see what it would do. This is the first time I saw such a machine working. The jury doesn't seem to be out on the Merloni question. To me the motor sounds like a real Philips, it sounds almost the same as my Philips toploader, with the PM motor.