rollermatic
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here is the transmission
on this 1967 rollermatic all back together
on this 1967 rollermatic all back together
question for the rollermatic experts please!
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rollermatic
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as you can see
everything on this machine is clean. it all got fresh primer and paint too!
i won't be satisfied till this washer runs correctly (if it kills me).
everything on this machine is clean. it all got fresh primer and paint too!
i won't be satisfied till this washer runs correctly (if it kills me).
rollermatic
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rollermatic
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the clutch
from hell!
from hell!
rollermatic
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i even gave it a new drain hose
i found at lowes, it's pool hose but it fits the drain outlet nipple perfectly. i am gravity draining all my machines and have taken the pumps off them all.
i found at lowes, it's pool hose but it fits the drain outlet nipple perfectly. i am gravity draining all my machines and have taken the pumps off them all.
rollermatic
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here's my game plan
gonna run it everyday for a week or so and hope any and all oil left in the spin shaft will work it's way out. i agree i think someone did oil it because it is noisy and i think they were trying to quiet it as saltysam said above. i know i didn't oil it when i got it.
then i will pull clutch out again and repeat the cleaning process. i see now i can pull it from the bottom so i won't have to pull tub out again and flip machine. all i have to do is disconect agitate shaft from the arm coupler which will be easy. the clutch will then drop right out when i remove center hub nut.
i also possibly know of a source for a clutch, i am going to call about it tomorrow. but i don't want to put another good clutch in and have it ruined by falling oil! that's why i want to run it everyday for awhile.
i also started looking on the web for a place to buy a sheet of clutch lining material that i could cut with a dremel and make new clutch linings.
and if worse comes to worse i can always freeze it up somehow turning it into an impact syle like joel described above and add a capacitor to the motor start winding like my 2 1965 machines have. then when it starts spinning the motor will come up to speed as the tub does like my other two. i prefer not to go this route as i agree it's gotta be hard on the motor and rollers. hopefully cleaning it again will do the trick.
as far as the brake working i don't care anymore about that!
that's thre least of my worries right now concerning this machine. it can just coast to a stop like my other 2 do.
i could pull transmission again and remove spin shaft but that's a big overhaul that i hope to avoid also! i'm just hoping any oil left will drip down into clutch now and be done with it! we will see and i will post pics as i continue.
i'm not giving up, it may take me all summer but it will run properly!
i did get the 65 turquoise custom imperial water tested tonite and it is going great! but i do have a concern about it too. it has the impact syle clutch but sometimes when i start it on spin it acts like an impact clutch should, motor slowly coming up to speed as tub does, other times motor starts instantly and tub gradually works itself up to full speed including repidry 1000? have no idea what this is all about?
gonna run it everyday for a week or so and hope any and all oil left in the spin shaft will work it's way out. i agree i think someone did oil it because it is noisy and i think they were trying to quiet it as saltysam said above. i know i didn't oil it when i got it.
then i will pull clutch out again and repeat the cleaning process. i see now i can pull it from the bottom so i won't have to pull tub out again and flip machine. all i have to do is disconect agitate shaft from the arm coupler which will be easy. the clutch will then drop right out when i remove center hub nut.
i also possibly know of a source for a clutch, i am going to call about it tomorrow. but i don't want to put another good clutch in and have it ruined by falling oil! that's why i want to run it everyday for awhile.
i also started looking on the web for a place to buy a sheet of clutch lining material that i could cut with a dremel and make new clutch linings.
and if worse comes to worse i can always freeze it up somehow turning it into an impact syle like joel described above and add a capacitor to the motor start winding like my 2 1965 machines have. then when it starts spinning the motor will come up to speed as the tub does like my other two. i prefer not to go this route as i agree it's gotta be hard on the motor and rollers. hopefully cleaning it again will do the trick.
as far as the brake working i don't care anymore about that!
that's thre least of my worries right now concerning this machine. it can just coast to a stop like my other 2 do.
i could pull transmission again and remove spin shaft but that's a big overhaul that i hope to avoid also! i'm just hoping any oil left will drip down into clutch now and be done with it! we will see and i will post pics as i continue.
i'm not giving up, it may take me all summer but it will run properly!
i did get the 65 turquoise custom imperial water tested tonite and it is going great! but i do have a concern about it too. it has the impact syle clutch but sometimes when i start it on spin it acts like an impact clutch should, motor slowly coming up to speed as tub does, other times motor starts instantly and tub gradually works itself up to full speed including repidry 1000? have no idea what this is all about?
mickeyd
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And so it is.
As a kid, I kept pestering the delivery man when he installed our new Custom Deluxe Bronze Rollermatic. And he kept saying, "It's all rollers, all rollers, no belts or pulleys, just rollers, all rollers." May have been his first experience with a washer kid ;-D
A picture book encyclopedia, Pete. Amazing!
Curious as to why you're gravity draining, and how you're going to manage it.
As a kid, I kept pestering the delivery man when he installed our new Custom Deluxe Bronze Rollermatic. And he kept saying, "It's all rollers, all rollers, no belts or pulleys, just rollers, all rollers." May have been his first experience with a washer kid ;-D
A picture book encyclopedia, Pete. Amazing!
Curious as to why you're gravity draining, and how you're going to manage it.
Pete
I really appreciate you sharing all these intricate and detailed pictures with us. They make a wonderful chronology for the future, keep em' coming man!
I really appreciate you sharing all these intricate and detailed pictures with us. They make a wonderful chronology for the future, keep em' coming man!
rollermatic
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thanks
i post a lot of pics when i do a thread because i figure at some point someone will have questions about rollermatics or whatever dishwasher i am working on. that way they can archive it and maybe find my thread and perhaps it will help them understand the machine better or help in the repair.
i know when i first started here almost 2 years ago i knew absolutely nothing about frigidaire rollermatics and 1-18 machines. i used the archives and every picture i found, every commentary was very helpful to me! i learned thru all the pics i found. plus the 1965 rollermatic tech talk that i downloaded from this site was invaluable to me also! and the "history of the rollermatic" manual i got from this site as well!
plus pics are fun to look at! i feel i'm doing a mini documentary of the appliance in question when i do a post. glad you enjoy them!
mickeyd, enjoyed your story of the rollermatic when you were a kid! i had a similiar experience with my aunt's machine. went to the appliance store and they had a demonstration of a rollermatic transmission! i was in awe! who kinew 40 years later they would be a hobby and passion!
no belts, no pins, must be an adhesive strip!
i am still in awe of their simple yet effective design today as i work on them!
i gravity drain as i have a small country cottage that sets on a crawlspace and i can easily drill a 1 1/2 inch hole in the floor and push the drain hose thru it. plus by pulling the pumps off i don't have to worry about leaking pump seals etc. it just seems simpler this way. but i save all pumps just in case i would want to put them back on. and i do have 2 extra pump seals.
joel, i will keep pics coming as i get them!
i will say that the red machine with the clutch problem is getting better. tub still takes a good 5 minutes but it comes up to full spin speed now. i keep running it everyday to try and work any leftover oil out of it. i will pull clutch in a week or so and do another cleaning.
the blue machine which is the 1965 rapidry custom imperial is basically back together now. i have water tested it but not with a full tub of water. but transmission works great, motor is quiet and bearings very smooth sounding, tub spins very quietly at it's 1010 rpm rapidry spin. putting top of water container back on now!will post some pics later tonite!
i post a lot of pics when i do a thread because i figure at some point someone will have questions about rollermatics or whatever dishwasher i am working on. that way they can archive it and maybe find my thread and perhaps it will help them understand the machine better or help in the repair.
i know when i first started here almost 2 years ago i knew absolutely nothing about frigidaire rollermatics and 1-18 machines. i used the archives and every picture i found, every commentary was very helpful to me! i learned thru all the pics i found. plus the 1965 rollermatic tech talk that i downloaded from this site was invaluable to me also! and the "history of the rollermatic" manual i got from this site as well!
plus pics are fun to look at! i feel i'm doing a mini documentary of the appliance in question when i do a post. glad you enjoy them!
mickeyd, enjoyed your story of the rollermatic when you were a kid! i had a similiar experience with my aunt's machine. went to the appliance store and they had a demonstration of a rollermatic transmission! i was in awe! who kinew 40 years later they would be a hobby and passion!
no belts, no pins, must be an adhesive strip!
i am still in awe of their simple yet effective design today as i work on them!
i gravity drain as i have a small country cottage that sets on a crawlspace and i can easily drill a 1 1/2 inch hole in the floor and push the drain hose thru it. plus by pulling the pumps off i don't have to worry about leaking pump seals etc. it just seems simpler this way. but i save all pumps just in case i would want to put them back on. and i do have 2 extra pump seals.
joel, i will keep pics coming as i get them!
i will say that the red machine with the clutch problem is getting better. tub still takes a good 5 minutes but it comes up to full spin speed now. i keep running it everyday to try and work any leftover oil out of it. i will pull clutch in a week or so and do another cleaning.
the blue machine which is the 1965 rapidry custom imperial is basically back together now. i have water tested it but not with a full tub of water. but transmission works great, motor is quiet and bearings very smooth sounding, tub spins very quietly at it's 1010 rpm rapidry spin. putting top of water container back on now!will post some pics later tonite!
rollermatic
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I GOT IT, I GOT IT, I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT RUNS AND SPINS AT FULL SPEED! I GOT IT FIXED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!
anyway i did 2 things. i was talkin to mark michaels last nite and he has no clutch parts but he told me the clutch linings were the same as those on the 1-18's. i did not know this!
i have a 1-18 all torn down. i checked it ans they are the same lining. the ones on my 1-18 look a bit fresher so i pulled them off.
i also took a peice of 2" pvc pipe and cut a small peice about 1/2 inch wide. i then filed it down using my grinder to a width of about 1/4 inch. this fit perfectly in the clutch spin wheel assembly and acted as a big thick washer to increase the pressure on the spring!
so when i put it together the clutch has a better lining and also has more spring pressure!
put it back on and 2 minutes later it was spinning at full speed! yeaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but i did find clutch linings available and ordered 4 of them just in case. they are cheap, about 10 bucks each. that is affordable!
i also found a complete clutch available but they wanted 400 bucks!!!!!!! are you kidding??????????? oh well it runs now.
gonna put it all back together this week and should be using it by the weekend.
here are pics!
IT RUNS AND SPINS AT FULL SPEED! I GOT IT FIXED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!
anyway i did 2 things. i was talkin to mark michaels last nite and he has no clutch parts but he told me the clutch linings were the same as those on the 1-18's. i did not know this!
i have a 1-18 all torn down. i checked it ans they are the same lining. the ones on my 1-18 look a bit fresher so i pulled them off.
i also took a peice of 2" pvc pipe and cut a small peice about 1/2 inch wide. i then filed it down using my grinder to a width of about 1/4 inch. this fit perfectly in the clutch spin wheel assembly and acted as a big thick washer to increase the pressure on the spring!
so when i put it together the clutch has a better lining and also has more spring pressure!
put it back on and 2 minutes later it was spinning at full speed! yeaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but i did find clutch linings available and ordered 4 of them just in case. they are cheap, about 10 bucks each. that is affordable!
i also found a complete clutch available but they wanted 400 bucks!!!!!!! are you kidding??????????? oh well it runs now.
gonna put it all back together this week and should be using it by the weekend.
here are pics!
rollermatic
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good old pvc
comes thru again! a perfect little spacer the exact diameter of the spring and clutch wheel housing!
comes thru again! a perfect little spacer the exact diameter of the spring and clutch wheel housing!
rollermatic
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clutch back together
and spring in place with pvc washer on top. now i put the other end of the spin wheel back on (wheel on the left side) and tighten the 3 screws. on this clutch assembly there is no way to adjust spring tension by adjusting the tightness of the 3 screws that hold the 2 halves of the wheel together. that's why i added a washer.
and spring in place with pvc washer on top. now i put the other end of the spin wheel back on (wheel on the left side) and tighten the 3 screws. on this clutch assembly there is no way to adjust spring tension by adjusting the tightness of the 3 screws that hold the 2 halves of the wheel together. that's why i added a washer.
rollermatic
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the washer i am discussing
is the one on the extreme left side here. the "red' machine as i call it due that i painted the outer tub red. i am going to spray the cabinet pink later on, keeping the top it's original white. it is a bottom line "deluxe" model, but does have a two speed motor. it is from 1967.
washer in middle is my 65 turquoise custom imperial rapidry i am also finishing up this week.
washer on right is the 65 custom deluxe i got from matt in mich last summer that runs fine and i use occasionally.
the little grey box on the post under the g.e. mobile maid spray arm is something i did yesterday. it has 6 lites in 3 rows. top row is for hot and cold water 'on". middle row is for low and high speed being "on". bottom row is for spin solonoid and timer speed control solonoid (i got from turquoisedude) being "on".
it is wired into the custom imperial and shows me what is happening with the machine as i test it thru all it's cycles!
so far all work perfactly!
is the one on the extreme left side here. the "red' machine as i call it due that i painted the outer tub red. i am going to spray the cabinet pink later on, keeping the top it's original white. it is a bottom line "deluxe" model, but does have a two speed motor. it is from 1967.
washer in middle is my 65 turquoise custom imperial rapidry i am also finishing up this week.
washer on right is the 65 custom deluxe i got from matt in mich last summer that runs fine and i use occasionally.
the little grey box on the post under the g.e. mobile maid spray arm is something i did yesterday. it has 6 lites in 3 rows. top row is for hot and cold water 'on". middle row is for low and high speed being "on". bottom row is for spin solonoid and timer speed control solonoid (i got from turquoisedude) being "on".
it is wired into the custom imperial and shows me what is happening with the machine as i test it thru all it's cycles!
so far all work perfactly!
rollermatic
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this way i can tell
exactly if the machine is operating properly at a glance. do i need it, no! but it's fun!
here it is not completely asembled yet.
exactly if the machine is operating properly at a glance. do i need it, no! but it's fun!
here it is not completely asembled yet.
rollermatic
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here is the top of the
red machine, the bottom line 67 deluxe model that had the slipping clutch.
it has a 4 choice temp selector switch and a timer dial and that's it! timer has 2 cycles, one at reg wash and spin speed, one at low was/spin speed!
i think it will look great with the lower cabinet painted pink. especially next to the turquoise machine!
that's it for my rollermatic documentary tonite. thanks for viewing, these mnachines are so special to me! my whole living room is rollermatic!!! and i love it this way!
red machine, the bottom line 67 deluxe model that had the slipping clutch.
it has a 4 choice temp selector switch and a timer dial and that's it! timer has 2 cycles, one at reg wash and spin speed, one at low was/spin speed!
i think it will look great with the lower cabinet painted pink. especially next to the turquoise machine!
that's it for my rollermatic documentary tonite. thanks for viewing, these mnachines are so special to me! my whole living room is rollermatic!!! and i love it this way!
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